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kalster

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Schumy tells us how he and most of the racing fans feel about it.
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MAGNY-COURS, France (Reuters) - NASCAR fans can forget about Ferrari's Michael Schumacher following Juan Pablo Montoya into the U.S. stock car series.

Canadian Jacques Villeneuve, like Montoya a former Indy 500 winner and CART champion, could be tempted to return to oval racing one day however.

Schumacher, the seven-times Formula One world champion who made history at Indianapolis this month when he dominated the U.S. Grand Prix to become the first five-times winner at the Brickyard, made clear on Thursday that he could not see the attraction of NASCAR.

"Personally I wouldn't do it because I think, what do you do in NASCAR? What is exciting there? I can't see that, running around in ovals," the German said at the French Grand Prix.

"I don't know heavy these cars are, but (it's) a heavy and very low-developed car to drive compared to a Formula One car," added the 37-year-old, who has yet to decide his future beyond this season.


"I don't see the challenge, for me."
 

deftron

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NASCAR is about the driver, not the car


He wouldn't want to do it because he'd be forced onto an even playing field,
unlike his current Ferrari situation that allows him to dominate


 

sniperruff

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Originally posted by: deftron
NASCAR is about the driver, not the car


He wouldn't want to do it because he'd be forced onto an even playing field,
unlike his current Ferrari situation that allows him to dominate

so what you're saying is that racing in nascar would be more challenging than racing in F1?

and no ferrari is not #1
 

deftron

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
NASCAR is about the driver, not the car


He wouldn't want to do it because he'd be forced onto an even playing field,
unlike his current Ferrari situation that allows him to dominate

so what you're saying is that racing in nascar would be more challenging than racing in F1?

and no ferrari is not #1



Would you say the Tour de France is more challenging right now than it
would be if one person was allowed to use a motorcycle ?
 

kalster

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something needs to be said about controlling insanely fast machinerey over a complex circuit rather than driving a modded street car in circles
 

dandruff

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Originally posted by: deftron
NASCAR is about the driver, not the car


He wouldn't want to do it because he'd be forced onto an even playing field,
unlike his current Ferrari situation that allows him to dominate


Hello, White Trash!
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: kalster
something needs to be said about controlling insanely fast machinerey over a complex circuit rather than driving a modded street car in circles



Who drives a modded street car?
 

deftron

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Originally posted by: kalster
something needs to be said about controlling insanely fast machinerey over a complex circuit rather than driving a modded street car in circles

Of course, the actual manuevering of the car is probably more difficult ...
however, that does not mean winning the race is more challenging
 

deftron

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Originally posted by: dandruff
Originally posted by: deftron
NASCAR is about the driver, not the car


He wouldn't want to do it because he'd be forced onto an even playing field,
unlike his current Ferrari situation that allows him to dominate


Hello, White Trash!



Ban this racist prick
 

kalster

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well that is an exaggiration but the speed differential between a F1 car and a Nascar is quite a lot, not to mention the kind of tracks they got in F1 vs the OVAL tracks in Nascar
 

sniperruff

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Originally posted by: deftron
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
NASCAR is about the driver, not the car


He wouldn't want to do it because he'd be forced onto an even playing field,
unlike his current Ferrari situation that allows him to dominate

so what you're saying is that racing in nascar would be more challenging than racing in F1?

and no ferrari is not #1



Would you say the Tour de France is more challenging right now than it
would be if one person was allowed to use a motorcycle ?

like i said, if ferrari does indeed has an insane amount of advantage over other teams, they would be the first constructor by now. and if you think... wouldn't Felipe Massa get the advantage as well?

you gotta admit he's right... racing in an oval in cars that are set up to go straight is pretty damn boring.

"Of course, the actual manuevering of the car is probably more difficult ...
however, that does not mean winning the race is more challenging "

so similarly, calculating a math equation that's more difficult doesn't mean solving the problem is more challenging?
 

essasin

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Originally posted by: deftron
Originally posted by: dandruff
Originally posted by: deftron
NASCAR is about the driver, not the car


He wouldn't want to do it because he'd be forced onto an even playing field,
unlike his current Ferrari situation that allows him to dominate


Hello, White Trash!



Ban this racist prick

I second. NASCAR has blown up and they make TONS of money. Who wouldn't want to race.

 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
NASCAR is about the driver, not the car


He wouldn't want to do it because he'd be forced onto an even playing field,
unlike his current Ferrari situation that allows him to dominate

so what you're saying is that racing in nascar would be more challenging than racing in F1?

and no ferrari is not #1



Would you say the Tour de France is more challenging right now than it
would be if one person was allowed to use a motorcycle ?

like i said, if ferrari does indeed has an insane amount of advantage over other teams, they would be the first constructor by now. and if you think... wouldn't Felipe Massa get the advantage as well?

you gotta admit he's right... racing in an oval in cars that are set up to go straight is pretty damn boring.


How many lead changes do you see during an F1 race?
 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: kalster
something needs to be said about controlling insanely fast machinerey over a complex circuit rather than driving a modded street car in circles
OMG idiot.

Here we go again with the NASCAR bashing.
 

sniperruff

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
NASCAR is about the driver, not the car


He wouldn't want to do it because he'd be forced onto an even playing field,
unlike his current Ferrari situation that allows him to dominate

so what you're saying is that racing in nascar would be more challenging than racing in F1?

and no ferrari is not #1



Would you say the Tour de France is more challenging right now than it
would be if one person was allowed to use a motorcycle ?

like i said, if ferrari does indeed has an insane amount of advantage over other teams, they would be the first constructor by now. and if you think... wouldn't Felipe Massa get the advantage as well?

you gotta admit he's right... racing in an oval in cars that are set up to go straight is pretty damn boring.


How many lead changes do you see during an F1 race?

so if an NBA game has 174 lead changes, but the result being 53-47, would it be a good match?
 

deftron

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
NASCAR is about the driver, not the car


He wouldn't want to do it because he'd be forced onto an even playing field,
unlike his current Ferrari situation that allows him to dominate

so what you're saying is that racing in nascar would be more challenging than racing in F1?

and no ferrari is not #1



Would you say the Tour de France is more challenging right now than it
would be if one person was allowed to use a motorcycle ?

like i said, if ferrari does indeed has an insane amount of advantage over other teams, they would be the first constructor by now. and if you think... wouldn't Felipe Massa get the advantage as well?

you gotta admit he's right... racing in an oval in cars that are set up to go straight is pretty damn boring.



I never said it was interesting.

I'm saying Schumacher's claim there is no challenge is false.

If everyone is on the same playing field, beating the guy next to you is more challenging.


People seem to forget Nascar races have like 40 drivers, and for the most part,
the remain just a few inches from each other the whole race. However, the same guys
usually win. They just know when to take subtle advantages.


If it was one car going around the track, I see your argument ... no challenge.
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
NASCAR is about the driver, not the car


He wouldn't want to do it because he'd be forced onto an even playing field,
unlike his current Ferrari situation that allows him to dominate

so what you're saying is that racing in nascar would be more challenging than racing in F1?

and no ferrari is not #1



Would you say the Tour de France is more challenging right now than it
would be if one person was allowed to use a motorcycle ?

like i said, if ferrari does indeed has an insane amount of advantage over other teams, they would be the first constructor by now. and if you think... wouldn't Felipe Massa get the advantage as well?

you gotta admit he's right... racing in an oval in cars that are set up to go straight is pretty damn boring.


How many lead changes do you see during an F1 race?

so if an NBA game has 174 lead changes, but the result being 53-47, would it be a good match?

It would be a lot better than 100-0
 

sniperruff

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Apr 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: deftron
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
NASCAR is about the driver, not the car


He wouldn't want to do it because he'd be forced onto an even playing field,
unlike his current Ferrari situation that allows him to dominate

so what you're saying is that racing in nascar would be more challenging than racing in F1?

and no ferrari is not #1



Would you say the Tour de France is more challenging right now than it
would be if one person was allowed to use a motorcycle ?

like i said, if ferrari does indeed has an insane amount of advantage over other teams, they would be the first constructor by now. and if you think... wouldn't Felipe Massa get the advantage as well?

you gotta admit he's right... racing in an oval in cars that are set up to go straight is pretty damn boring.



I never said it was interesting.

I'm saying Schumacher's claim there is no challenge is false.

If everyone is on the same playing field, beating the guy next to you is more challenging.


People seem to forget Nascar races have like 40 drivers, and for the most part,
the remain just a few inches from each other the whole race. However, the same guys
usually win. They just know when to take subtle advantages.

""Personally I wouldn't do it because I think, what do you do in NASCAR? What is exciting there? I can't see that, running around in ovals," the German said at the French Grand Prix. "

he did not claim that it's not challenging. obviously he thinks it's boring (not exciting), which is true

not that i love F1, since it costs so much for independent teams to join. WRC FTW.
 

sniperruff

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
NASCAR is about the driver, not the car


He wouldn't want to do it because he'd be forced onto an even playing field,
unlike his current Ferrari situation that allows him to dominate

so what you're saying is that racing in nascar would be more challenging than racing in F1?

and no ferrari is not #1



Would you say the Tour de France is more challenging right now than it
would be if one person was allowed to use a motorcycle ?

like i said, if ferrari does indeed has an insane amount of advantage over other teams, they would be the first constructor by now. and if you think... wouldn't Felipe Massa get the advantage as well?

you gotta admit he's right... racing in an oval in cars that are set up to go straight is pretty damn boring.


How many lead changes do you see during an F1 race?

so if an NBA game has 174 lead changes, but the result being 53-47, would it be a good match?

It would be a lot better than 100-0

i think watching one vince carter dunking on 9 midgets is more fun than watching 10 rick brunson's duking it out.
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: deftron
NASCAR is about the driver, not the car


He wouldn't want to do it because he'd be forced onto an even playing field,
unlike his current Ferrari situation that allows him to dominate

so what you're saying is that racing in nascar would be more challenging than racing in F1?

and no ferrari is not #1



Would you say the Tour de France is more challenging right now than it
would be if one person was allowed to use a motorcycle ?

like i said, if ferrari does indeed has an insane amount of advantage over other teams, they would be the first constructor by now. and if you think... wouldn't Felipe Massa get the advantage as well?

you gotta admit he's right... racing in an oval in cars that are set up to go straight is pretty damn boring.


How many lead changes do you see during an F1 race?

so if an NBA game has 174 lead changes, but the result being 53-47, would it be a good match?

It would be a lot better than 100-0

i think watching one vince carter dunking on 9 midgets is more fun than watching 10 rick brunson's duking it out.

Do you have any idea of what your talking about?