NASA sees earliest manned moon landing in 2015

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Jadow
if they're going to retire the shuttles, they should soft land them on the moon and use them as bases.

Ummm...what booster are they going to use to get them there? The shuttles aren't even close to being able to break orbit AFAIK. Now daisy chaining them to the ISS...that might work.

The shuttles can get to the moon - they just can't get back on their internal fuel stores. The obvious solution is to tack on an external tank that's been pre-orbited, but that takes money.

Really? Wow. I did not know this...cool. link?

If that's the case, all we need is a way to get water on the moon, then you could mix concrete out of soil and bury the shuttles for long term rad. shielding.

the money needed to retrofit the space shuttles to land and navigate on the moon would be to the extreme. They are designing special craft instead

 

[Yossarian]

p.s. I seriously doubt it's possible to "soft land" the shuttles on the moon. they already glide like bricks in the earth's atmosphere, with zero atmosphere you would need Bruce Willis at the controls to even have a chance.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: m2kewl

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: brigden
Seriously, why bother sending men back to the moon? The first time was political - how does this differ? I don't mean to sound like a liberal, but I can't believe that you operate a society that would deem this important. I mean, human spirit and all that rubbish, but there are still people starving in your country - the richest, most powerful country in the world...

There is no one starving in this country and if they are it is their own doing. This country has more opportuniy than anywhere in the world but it won't come to you, you have to go out an get it so anyone that you consider needs a hand up I simply consider they need to TRY a little bit. A lot of people will wallow in poverty their whole lives but that is not the responsibility of the government or anyone esle. Public education is afforded to everyone. If you care about your education and apply yourself that education will get you into a college and there is plenty of free money/scholorships/and cheap loans available of which a lot goes to the poor and minorities. Most people in lower income brackets do not apply themselves in the free school they have access to and thus are not eligible for college at which point they claim there are no opportunities for them. There destiny is THEIR responsibioity as it was there choice to THROW opportunity away. The only thing that will every bring people out of poverty is the desire and the willingness to work....no socialist government can do it unless they bring everyone else down to pay for it and that simply is not fair.

Preach it!!!

tell the kid to put the XBOXand burger down!

Originally posted by: Yossarian
does Bush know that we have already been to the moon? let's not take anything for granted here. maybe nobody told him.

LMAO! this is the guy that almost died choking on food!

:thumbsup:


And at yossarian...I'm not a bush basher (not a huge fan either) but that was genuinely funny.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Yossarian
p.s. I seriously doubt it's possible to "soft land" the shuttles on the moon. they already glide like bricks in the earth's atmosphere, with zero atmosphere you would need Bruce Willis at the controls to even have a chance.

:laugh:

You're two for two.

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: DonVito
Congrats to NASA for spending billions of dollars to re-create what was an incredible accomplishment 47 years earlier. Maybe while they're at it, they can send more monkeys into orbit . . .

Heh.

Seriously, why bother sending men back to the moon? The first time was political - how does this differ? I don't mean to sound like a liberal, but I can't believe that you operate a society that would deem this important. I mean, human spirit and all that rubbish, but there are still people starving in your country - the richest, most powerful country in the world...

i used to think brigden was a moron and now i know. imagine if the davincis and edisons of the past has this perspective. we would still be in the dark ages.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Yossarian
p.s. I seriously doubt it's possible to "soft land" the shuttles on the moon. they already glide like bricks in the earth's atmosphere, with zero atmosphere you would need Bruce Willis at the controls to even have a chance.

:laugh:

You're two for two.

you might be able to if you try a road-runner sling shot move......

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Yossarian
does Bush know that we have already been to the moon? let's not take anything for granted here. maybe nobody told him.

I didn't realize Bush was President of NASA.

:roll:

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Yossarian
does Bush know that we have already been to the moon? let's not take anything for granted here. maybe nobody told him.

I didn't realize Bush was President of NASA.

:roll:

he was the one a couple of years ago encouraging for the program to go to the moon

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: DonVito
Congrats to NASA for spending billions of dollars to re-create what was an incredible accomplishment 47 years earlier. Maybe while they're at it, they can send more monkeys into orbit . . .

Heh.

Seriously, why bother sending men back to the moon? The first time was political - how does this differ? I don't mean to sound like a liberal, but I can't believe that you operate a society that would deem this important. I mean, human spirit and all that rubbish, but there are still people starving in your country - the richest, most powerful country in the world...

i used to think brigden was a moron and now i know. imagine if the davincis and edisons of the past has this perspective. we would still be in the dark ages.

She is not a moron, just expressing her opinion. Not living in the U.S., her opinion will be influenced by the media in her area - when we have some of our own politicians on TV yelling that kids are starving, just before the News special about rising obesity stats, it's no wonder that their opinions might be a little confused.

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Yossarian
does Bush know that we have already been to the moon? let's not take anything for granted here. maybe nobody told him.

I didn't realize Bush was President of NASA.

:roll:

do you realize that the President has quite a bit of influence over NASA's mission and overall direction? why do you think we went to the moon in the first place.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Yossarian

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Yossarian
does Bush know that we have already been to the moon? let's not take anything for granted here. maybe nobody told him.

I didn't realize Bush was President of NASA.

:roll:

do you realize that the President has quite a bit of influence over NASA's mission and overall direction? why do you think we went to the moon in the first place.

He can influence funding through Congress, but he is not making the decisions of how that funding is directly being spent.

Congress and Eisenhower founded NASA. NASA runs the show.

 

[cavemanmoron]

Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
LE BOURGET, France (Reuters) - The next mission to land a man on the moon will take place in 2015 at the earliest, the new chief of the United States' space program said on Monday, adding the mission could be followed by the construction of a multinational space station there.

But NASA has not yet decided what vehicles will be used to reach the moon, or what will succeed the aging space shuttle fleet, which is due to be retired in 2010.

"I don't have a specific date, but sometime between 2015, which is the earliest we think we can do it, and 2020, which would be the latest," said Michael Griffin, the new administrator of NASA, when asked at the Paris Air Show about NASA plans to return to the moon.

The last manned mission to the moon was NASA's Apollo 17 in 1972.

Griffin, who took over the top job at the U.S.'s National Aeronautics and Space Administration in April, is hoping to fulfil President Bush's high-profile plan to return humans to the moon and possibly to land on Mars.

"We have enough money to put people back on the moon in that timeframe," he said. "The model that I have is that we should build a lunar outpost similar to the kinds of multinational outposts we have in Antarctica."

NASA will make decisions on what craft will be used to reach the moon in the next few months, Griffin said: "I am hoping we will have some fairly firm conclusions by the end of this summer."

NASA is weighing up competing bids for the so-called Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV), the successor to the space shuttle, which will be retired in 2010. The new vehicle is expected to be compatible with the International Space Station and to play a role in a manned mission to the moon.

The space shuttle fleet has not flown since 2003, when the Columbia shuttle broke apart in mid-air, killing its crew of seven.

An executive of Boeing Co., which is teaming up with Northrop Grumman Corp. to bid for the multi-billion dollar CEV contract, said on Monday he expected to hear very soon whether its bid would move to the next stage of NASA consideration.

"We're expecting to get notification from NASA even possibly today on whether we are going to be selected to be in the final two competitors," said Jim Albaugh, president of Boeing's integrated defense systems unit, at the air show.

Rival Lockheed Martin Corp. is also bidding on the CEV contract.





I always love following the new and latest space technology...especially in terms of the next shuttle or space craft ect...

I hope this will spark new interest in space travel again, the whole prospect of it is amazing to me, so its good to see we are going in the right direction. Excpet the date will probably really be in 2025.

WOW this is neat,but,Sad that it is taking so long.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Why are they going back?

We need to install giant "lasers" there to defend America with.

 

[91TTZ]

Screw this liberal crap... why should we hold back all innovation and exploration until everyone catches up with us? I feel no obligation to feed some welfare queen's kids after she came up with the bright idea of crapping out kids that she can't support.

 

[JoeKing]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Why are they going back?

to perfect construction methods and habitat protocol in preperation for eventual colonization of mars?

moon = much closer than mars. So if something goes wrong there is still a chance to save the poor saps.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: JoeKing

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Why are they going back?

to perfect construction methods and habitat protocol in preperation for eventual colonization of mars?

moon = much closer than mars. So if something goes wrong there is still a chance to save the poor saps.

How about to just plain colonize the moon?

Why does nobody see that as a benefit?

The moon will not be dead forever.

 

[JoeKing]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: JoeKing

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Why are they going back?

to perfect construction methods and habitat protocol in preperation for eventual colonization of mars?

moon = much closer than mars. So if something goes wrong there is still a chance to save the poor saps.

How about to just plain colonize the moon?

Why does nobody see that as a benefit?

The moon will not be dead forever.

terraforming the moon is hundreds and hundreds of years away. Mars on the other hand is a more tangible goal that at least our children can expect to witness.

The mentality is the moon "meh been there done that" now it's time to set foot on mars. We will probably have a permanent colony on the moon before mars, don't worry about that.

 

[Yossarian]

we must found Tyco City and New Berlin.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: blahblah99
How about we spend billions solving the problems at home first. Oh wait, what problems.

with that thinking, we would never do anything cool. there will ALWAYS be problems here

 

[So]

Originally posted by: JoeKing

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: JoeKing

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Why are they going back?

to perfect construction methods and habitat protocol in preperation for eventual colonization of mars?

moon = much closer than mars. So if something goes wrong there is still a chance to save the poor saps.

How about to just plain colonize the moon?

Why does nobody see that as a benefit?

The moon will not be dead forever.

terraforming the moon is hundreds and hundreds of years away. Mars on the other hand is a more tangible goal that at least our children can expect to witness.

The mentality is the moon "meh been there done that" now it's time to set foot on mars. We will probably have a permanent colony on the moon before mars, don't worry about that.

1. You assume we must terraform it? Why not simply build massive intodd semi underground complexes? We could, much later, terraform it. It is so strategically close and convenient, it is a much more valuable resource than mars. Not to say taht we should forget about mars.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: JoeKing

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: JoeKing

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Why are they going back?

to perfect construction methods and habitat protocol in preperation for eventual colonization of mars?

moon = much closer than mars. So if something goes wrong there is still a chance to save the poor saps.

How about to just plain colonize the moon?

Why does nobody see that as a benefit?

The moon will not be dead forever.

terraforming the moon is hundreds and hundreds of years away. Mars on the other hand is a more tangible goal that at least our children can expect to witness.

The mentality is the moon "meh been there done that" now it's time to set foot on mars. We will probably have a permanent colony on the moon before mars, don't worry about that.

regular people living on the moon might be about 200-250 years away...

People envolved with the project, 25 years...

We are capable of a lot, and we are definately going to the moon before Mars...maybe i misunderstood your comment, but mars is not more tangible than the moon...right now at least...anything that we send to mars will have already stopped on the moon.

And as for that been there done there attitude that a lot of people in our country have, all i have to say to that is, those are the same people that are perfectly happy with what they have now and are to lazy/uninformed to care more

 

[Indolent]

It's not like we're outsourcing the jobs to Europa or something. The money being spent must be benefiting someone on Earth, even if it is just the big defense companies, they are publicly owned.

Hrm, if we're going to the moon and mars, I think it's time to buy some stock soon.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: DonVito
Congrats to NASA for spending billions of dollars to re-create what was an incredible accomplishment 47 years earlier. Maybe while they're at it, they can send more monkeys into orbit . . .

Heh.

Seriously, why bother sending men back to the moon? The first time was political - how does this differ? I don't mean to sound like a liberal, but I can't believe that you operate a society that would deem this important. I mean, human spirit and all that rubbish, but there are still people starving in your country - the richest, most powerful country in the world...

Double P&N alert!

 

[jjones]

It would be nice if they don't fake it this time.

 

[Sheepathon]

Our president Chimpy McFlightsuit needs to reallocate some funding from nasa to schools.