Nas - Hip Hop Is Dead (single) out..

[Judgement]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Here's some verses from the song "Thin Line" by Jurassic 5 feat. Nelly Furtado. It's one of my favorite songs.

I love that song, and Jurassic 5 in general.

Talib Kweli is amazing also, general "radio played/TRL type hip-hop" is almost always promoting self destruction and demeaning to women. I'm going to quote one of Talib's more popular songs, "Get By"
It's about the people in urban situations struggling with addictions and how they use them as a crutch just "to get by" and how that isn't the answer or solution:

[Verse 1: Talib]
We sell crack to our own out the back of our homes
We smell the musk of the dusk in the crack of the dawn
We go through episodes too like "Attack of the Clones"
Work 'til we break our back and you hear the crack of the bone
To get by.. just to get by
Just to get by, just to get by
We commute to computers
Spirits stay mute while your egos spread rumors
We survivalists, turned to consumers
Just to get by.. just to get by
Just to get by, just to get by
Ask me why some people got to live in a trailer, cuss like a sailor
I paint a picture with the pen like Norman Mailer
Mi abuela raised three daughters all by herself, with no help
I think about her struggle and I find the strength in myself
These words, melt in my mouth
They hot, like the jail cell in the South
Before my ****** Core bailed me out
To get by.. just to get by
Just to get by, just to get by
We do or die like Bed-Stuy through the red sky
with the window of the red eye
Let the lead fly, some G. Rap ******, "Livin' to Let Die"

[Chorus]
This morning, I woke up
Feeling brand new I jumped up
Feeling my highs, and my lows
In my soul, and my goals
Just to stop smokin, and stop drinkin
And I've been thinkin - I got my reasons
Just to get by, just to get by
Just to get by, just to get by

[Verse 2: Talib]
We keep it gangster say "fo shizzle", "fo sheezy" and "stayin crunk"
its easy to "pull a breezy", "smoke trees", and "we stay drunk"
Yo, I activism - attackin the system, the blacks and latins in prison
Numbers of prison they victim lackin in the vision
****** and all they got is rappin to listen to
I let them know we missin you, the love is unconditional
Even when the condition is critical, when the livin is miserable
Your position is pivotal, I ain't bullshittin you
Now, why would I lie? Just to get by?
Just to get by, to get Fly
The TV got us reachin for stars
Not the ones between Venus and Mars, the ones that be readin for parts
Some people get breast enhancements and penis enlargers
Saturday sinners Sunday morning at the feet of the Father
They need somethin to rely on, we get high on all types of drugs
When, all you really need is love

To get by.. just to get by
Just to get by, just to get by
Our parents sing like John Lennon, "Imagine all the people", watch
we rock like Paul McCartney from now until the last Beatle drop

[Chorus]
This morning, I woke up
Feeling brand new and I jumped up
Feeling my high's, and my low's
In my soul, and my goals
Just to stop smoking, and stop drinking
And I've been thinking - I've got my reasons
Just to get by, just to get by
Just to get by, just to get by

[Talib: repeat 2X]
Yo yo yo yo, yo
Some people cry,and some people try
Just to get by, for a piece of the pie
You love to eat and get high
We decieve when we lie, and we keepin it fly

Yo yo yo yo, yo
When, the people decide, to keep a disguise
Can't see the eyes, see the evil inside
But there's people you find
Strong or feeble in mind, I stay readin the signs yo yo

Compare that to any fitty cent song and then tell me all hip-hop is destructive. Mainstream hiphop has become destructive because that is what the consumers have brought upon themselves. The average person is an idiot, for most listeners of the music the lyrics go in one ear and straight out the other if the song has a good beat.

 

[j00fek]

time for some real music

 

[IceBergSLiM]

you guys take music to seriously. its entertainment. if you want some real knowledge or wisdom read a goddamn book. /thread

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: iamaelephant

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
OMG, rap is so ridiculous. I was hoping this thread would be about the impending death of rap music. Sigh, I can dream. This whole rap fad will die within 5 - 8 years I'm sure. Yo.

Rap has been maligned with the truth that are the streets, intertwined and hidden within some beats, and just because the life you have lived has sheltered from the truth that these have had...

pray tell....doesn't mean that the true poets, the true masters, of their beats, of their truth that happens on their street, should be relegated to some fvking fad.

It is a fad. It's the modern disco. You have the silly clothes, funny looking dances and "exclusive" clubs. The major difference is that disco was relatively harmless apart from the drug scene. Hip hop/rap is distructive to society. It has spawned gangs and drug rings. It promotes violence and anarchy. And worst of all, it is targeted at young people (13 - 17) who are impressionable.

The faster this fad is done with, the better it will be for society. The hip hop culture disgusts me. I'm sick and tired of seeing 16 year old white males walking around with their pants around their knees and 2Pac t-shirts acting like they own the street. I'm sick of seeing 15 year old girls chasing after men with 22" chrome wheels desperate to be someones Ho because thats what all those cool music-video people do. But none of these things compare to the horrific violence that has much to do with the rap/hip hop scene. How often are hip hop stars involved in shootings? How many songs promote violence and shooting? These songs are aimed at impressionable young people. But the 55 year old white male fat-cats in the offices of the major music labels don't care - they are making a fortune from it. Fvck rap and fvck this fad.

Delores Tucker, is that you? :laugh:

 

[SoulAssassin]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
OMG, rap is so ridiculous. I was hoping this thread would be about the impending death of rap music. Sigh, I can dream. This whole rap fad will die within 5 - 8 years I'm sure. Yo.

hmmm, its been going 15 years strong and gaining popularity by the year. I dont think its going anywhere....

Rapper's Delight came out in 1979.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: iamaelephant

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
OMG, rap is so ridiculous. I was hoping this thread would be about the impending death of rap music. Sigh, I can dream. This whole rap fad will die within 5 - 8 years I'm sure. Yo.

Rap has been maligned with the truth that are the streets, intertwined and hidden within some beats, and just because the life you have lived has sheltered from the truth that these have had...

pray tell....doesn't mean that the true poets, the true masters, of their beats, of their truth that happens on their street, should be relegated to some fvking fad.

It is a fad. It's the modern disco. You have the silly clothes, funny looking dances and "exclusive" clubs. The major difference is that disco was relatively harmless apart from the drug scene. Hip hop/rap is distructive to society. It has spawned gangs and drug rings. It promotes violence and anarchy. And worst of all, it is targeted at young people (13 - 17) who are impressionable.

The faster this fad is done with, the better it will be for society. The hip hop culture disgusts me. I'm sick and tired of seeing 16 year old white males walking around with their pants around their knees and 2Pac t-shirts acting like they own the street. I'm sick of seeing 15 year old girls chasing after men with 22" chrome wheels desperate to be someones Ho because thats what all those cool music-video people do. But none of these things compare to the horrific violence that has much to do with the rap/hip hop scene. How often are hip hop stars involved in shootings? How many songs promote violence and shooting? These songs are aimed at impressionable young people. But the 55 year old white male fat-cats in the offices of the major music labels don't care - they are making a fortune from it. Fvck rap and fvck this fad.

You don't know, do you?

Experience different kinds of people, know where they are coming from. This is not a fad. I don't think fads last this long and have this widespread of an audience, ranging from rich whites to Asians. It is dellusional to think that way.

Get to know some people who do this and you may change your way of thinking. Of course, this is harder than to just sit back and give your opinions. Not everybody has the same experiences when they grow up. There is a reason why people act this way.

 

[Rip the Jacker]

Can we get back to the topic now?

 

[Baked]

Jay-Z's gonna come back and kick this ******'s ass.

 

[I4AT]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
OMG, rap is so ridiculous. I was hoping this thread would be about the impending death of rap music. Sigh, I can dream. This whole rap fad will die within 5 - 8 years I'm sure. Yo.

hmmm, its been going 15 years strong and gaining popularity by the year. I dont think its going anywhere....

Actually real rap died in the 90s, this bling bling money cars bitches fake gangster sh!t is not rap, and it'll die out soon, then who knows what form "rap" will take from there.

 

[MBrown]

I love NAS.

 

[TraumaRN]

What I find is ironic, is that I work in downtown Detroit, and honestly it's a cold day in hell when I see a young black male listening to any of this mainstream 'gangsta rap/bullsh!t'

It's usually the stuff not played on the radio, jurassic 5 for example....or it's jazz.

Thats the irony to me.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

One idiot calls rap an ill of society and then a bunch of suburbanites start prattling on about "underground" rap. Sounds to me like a typical rap thread in ATOT.

 

[Judgement]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA
What I find is ironic, is that I work in downtown Detroit, and honestly it's a cold day in hell when I see a young black male listening to any of this mainstream 'gangsta rap/bullsh!t'

It's usually the stuff not played on the radio, jurassic 5 for example....or it's jazz.

Thats the irony to me.

It's, for the most part I think, the rich white kids driving the escalade their daddy bought them on their sweet 16 that are listening to fitty cent.