Name the worst corporate merger in history

[ingenuiti]

Originally posted by: luvya
I am sorry, but Compaq & HP merger has been one of the most successful in recent years. You guys need to read business section in the newspaper.

I do read the business papers. Do you realize that HP missed their earnings expectations several weeks ago? The HP + Compaq merger provided no synergies. It was a merger for market share. Look it up, a large majority of HP shareholders knew this and tried to prevent the merger.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Any of the oil company mergers could fall into the "worst" category because, in the end, it just means higher prices at the pumps.

A merger that didn't happen because it was shot down by the FTC: Staples and Office Depot.

Finally, there is a merger buy-out on the books that causes me great concern. Black and Decker is trying to buy out Porter Cable. For anyone who loves great tools, this might also be a concern to them. Hopefully, B&D doesn't yank the PC name or hurt the quality of the products by making junk tools under the PC name.

B&D owns DeWalt. I wouldn't fear for the quality of PC products (their random-orbit polisher is :thumbsup:. 🙂)

 

[TitanDiddly]

Originally posted by: ingenuiti
AOL + Time Warner and HP + Compaq

+ HP

 

[T2T III]

Originally posted by: ingenuiti

Originally posted by: luvya
I am sorry, but Compaq & HP merger has been one of the most successful in recent years. You guys need to read business section in the newspaper.

I do read the business papers. Do you realize that HP missed their earnings expectations several weeks ago? The HP + Compaq merger provided no synergies. It was a merger for market share. Look it up, a large majority of HP shareholders knew this and tried to prevent the merger.

Ironically, mergers are usually only beneficial for the broker houses that oversee the merger and those who act as "cheerleaders" for the merger. After the merger has been completed, these folks have taken their millions and walked away from the merged companies. At that point, they could care less what happens to the newly-merged company because they've received their paychecks.

Now, if the rules were changed a bit. For example, let's just say those who brokered the merger could not collect on the pay-off until 5 years after the merger. Would those same groups/people/companies be so eager to see the merger happen? I don't think so.

 

[klah]

BBQ.com and Pets.com

 

[macwinlin]

As mentioned quite frequently, the AOL-Time Warner merger. I remembered that the AOL in the company's name was dropped, so instead of "AOL Time Warner," it is now "Time Warner."

 

[luvya]

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya
I am sorry, but Compaq & HP merger has been one of the most successful in recent years. You guys need to read business section in the newspaper.

i am sorry, but you need to grow up and realize relying on papers for valuable info is lame. 😉

I am sorry, but I also have heard from past Compaq employees, the merger was a success.

 

[Prfstrkr]

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya
I am sorry, but Compaq & HP merger has been one of the most successful in recent years. You guys need to read business section in the newspaper.

i am sorry, but you need to grow up and realize relying on papers for valuable info is lame. 😉

I am sorry, but I also have heard from past Compaq employees, the merger was a success.

I am sorry, but u should also remember Lindon Johnson told the public that we were kicking a$$ in Vietnam.

 

[luvya]

Originally posted by: ingenuiti

Originally posted by: luvya
I am sorry, but Compaq & HP merger has been one of the most successful in recent years. You guys need to read business section in the newspaper.

I do read the business papers. Do you realize that HP missed their earnings expectations several weeks ago? The HP + Compaq merger provided no synergies. It was a merger for market share. Look it up, a large majority of HP shareholders knew this and tried to prevent the merger.

And? When you look at the success of the merger, you have to look at it on the bigger picture, missing one earning expectation does not mean the merger was a failure. Please.

 

[luvya]

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya
I am sorry, but Compaq & HP merger has been one of the most successful in recent years. You guys need to read business section in the newspaper.

i am sorry, but you need to grow up and realize relying on papers for valuable info is lame. 😉

I am sorry, but I also have heard from past Compaq employees, the merger was a success.

I am sorry, but u should also remember Lindon Johnson told the public that we were kicking a$$ in Vietnam.

How about you find a credible article that points out why the Compaq&HP merger was a failure? Because I sure don't hear that from anywhere.

 

[ingenuiti]

Let me clarify that I don't necessarily think the HP + Compaq merger is a failure. However, it has yet to live up to Wall Street's expectations and it just recently stumbed by missing its earnings estimate for the quarter. I think it's too early to declare the merger a success or failure. Only time will tell.

 

[Prfstrkr]

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya
I am sorry, but Compaq & HP merger has been one of the most successful in recent years. You guys need to read business section in the newspaper.

i am sorry, but you need to grow up and realize relying on papers for valuable info is lame. 😉

I am sorry, but I also have heard from past Compaq employees, the merger was a success.

I am sorry, but u should also remember Lindon Johnson told the public that we were kicking a$$ in Vietnam.

How about you find a credible article that points out why the Compaq&HP merger was a failure? Because I sure don't hear that from anywhere.

Here is one if u really need some sorta article to prove the FACT:roll:

 

[luvya]

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya
I am sorry, but Compaq & HP merger has been one of the most successful in recent years. You guys need to read business section in the newspaper.

i am sorry, but you need to grow up and realize relying on papers for valuable info is lame. 😉

I am sorry, but I also have heard from past Compaq employees, the merger was a success.

I am sorry, but u should also remember Lindon Johnson told the public that we were kicking a$$ in Vietnam.

How about you find a credible article that points out why the Compaq&HP merger was a failure? Because I sure don't hear that from anywhere.

Here is http://www.dailystar.com/daily...atedarticles/34522.php">one</a> if u really need some sorta article to prove sth.

And...the link does not work.

 

[Prfstrkr]

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya
I am sorry, but Compaq &amp; HP merger has been one of the most successful in recent years. You guys need to read business section in the newspaper.

i am sorry, but you need to grow up and realize relying on papers for valuable info is lame. 😉

I am sorry, but I also have heard from past Compaq employees, the merger was a success.

I am sorry, but u should also remember Lindon Johnson told the public that we were kicking a$$ in Vietnam.

How about you find a credible article that points out why the Compaq&amp;HP merger was a failure? Because I sure don't hear that from anywhere.

Here is http://www.dailystar.com/daily...atedarticles/34522.php">one</a> if u really need some sorta article to prove sth.

And...the link does not work.

fixED
refer to the original post

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: Triumph
The merger of Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central was probably one of the worst mergers ever. To make a comparison, you have to remember what a huge role the railroads played in this country over the last 150 years. PRR and NYC were the mainstays throughout that period, and this country would be nothing like what it is today without them. And they were huge rivals; so much so that individual CEO's on either side hated each other on a personal level. This would literally be like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs merging, or Intel and AMD, or DSS merging with digital cable. Actually, I don't think those mergers would even compare.

Penn Central was formed in 1968. They didn't turn a profit until 1984!

but u also have to take in consideration that there were lots of gov regulation when they mergered

 

[luvya]

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya
I am sorry, but Compaq &amp; HP merger has been one of the most successful in recent years. You guys need to read business section in the newspaper.

i am sorry, but you need to grow up and realize relying on papers for valuable info is lame. 😉

I am sorry, but I also have heard from past Compaq employees, the merger was a success.

I am sorry, but u should also remember Lindon Johnson told the public that we were kicking a$$ in Vietnam.

How about you find a credible article that points out why the Compaq&amp;HP merger was a failure? Because I sure don't hear that from anywhere.

Here is http://www.dailystar.com/daily...atedarticles/34522.php">one</a> if u really need some sorta article to prove sth.

And...the link does not work.

fixED
refer to the original post

 

[Prfstrkr]

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya
I am sorry, but Compaq &amp; HP merger has been one of the most successful in recent years. You guys need to read business section in the newspaper.

i am sorry, but you need to grow up and realize relying on papers for valuable info is lame. 😉

I am sorry, but I also have heard from past Compaq employees, the merger was a success.

I am sorry, but u should also remember Lindon Johnson told the public that we were kicking a$$ in Vietnam.

How about you find a credible article that points out why the Compaq&amp;HP merger was a failure? Because I sure don't hear that from anywhere.

Here is http://www.dailystar.com/daily...atedarticles/34522.php">one</a> if u really need some sorta article to prove sth.

And...the link does not work.

fixED
refer to the original post

guess i'm becoming as lame as u

 

[Prfstrkr]

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya
I am sorry, but Compaq &amp; HP merger has been one of the most successful in recent years. You guys need to read business section in the newspaper.

i am sorry, but you need to grow up and realize relying on papers for valuable info is lame. 😉

I am sorry, but I also have heard from past Compaq employees, the merger was a success.

I am sorry, but u should also remember Lindon Johnson told the public that we were kicking a$$ in Vietnam.

How about you find a credible article that points out why the Compaq&amp;HP merger was a failure? Because I sure don't hear that from anywhere.

Here is http://www.dailystar.com/daily...atedarticles/34522.php">one</a> if u really need some sorta article to prove sth.

And...the link does not work.

fixED
refer to the original post

i hope u do READ like u claimed. I said refer to the original link

 

[luvya]

The article focuses mainly on the missing of earning expectation in the third quarter. Let's trace back, the merger occured around 2000, and people included Wall Street predicted it would be a complete disaster, but no, it's not. Yes, they missed the the third quarter earning, but that's what I was saying to ingenuiti. You simply can't judge the success of a merger by a mere quarter earning. Overall, it's been good, they have achieved some internal goals and failed some....but overall, the merger has proven pessimstic investors and wall street wrong.

 

[Prfstrkr]

Originally posted by: luvya
The article focuses mainly on the missing of earning expectation in the third quarter. Let's trace back, the merger occured around 2000, and people included Wall Street predicted it would be a complete disaster, but no, it's not. Yes, they missed the the third quarter earning, but that's what I was saying to ingenuiti. You simply can't judge the success of a merger by a mere quarter earning. Overall, it's been good, they have achieved some internal goals and failed some....but overall, the merger has proven pessimstic investors and wall street wrong.

so wut are those "achieved goals" u refered to, Plz?

 

[Dissipate]

Worst merge is Fedex and Kinko's. Copies with shipping? WTF were they thinking??

 

[toekramp]

Originally posted by: daveshel
AOL and Time Warner

 

[toekramp]

Originally posted by: Dissipate
Worst merge is Fedex and Kinko's. Copies with shipping? WTF were they thinking??

makes sense to me

 

[luvya]

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya
The article focuses mainly on the missing of earning expectation in the third quarter. Let's trace back, the merger occured around 2000, and people included Wall Street predicted it would be a complete disaster, but no, it's not. Yes, they missed the the third quarter earning, but that's what I was saying to ingenuiti. You simply can't judge the success of a merger by a mere quarter earning. Overall, it's been good, they have achieved some internal goals and failed some....but overall, the merger has proven pessimstic investors and wall street wrong.

so wut are those "achieved goals" u refered to, Plz?

Market share and saving...PC business is still doing nicely, it's the storage and server business that have been hampered. So there are pros and cons. That's what I meant they have achieved some and failed some. Certainly not the WORST merger.

 

[Prfstrkr]

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Prfstrkr

Originally posted by: luvya
The article focuses mainly on the missing of earning expectation in the third quarter. Let's trace back, the merger occured around 2000, and people included Wall Street predicted it would be a complete disaster, but no, it's not. Yes, they missed the the third quarter earning, but that's what I was saying to ingenuiti. You simply can't judge the success of a merger by a mere quarter earning. Overall, it's been good, they have achieved some internal goals and failed some....but overall, the merger has proven pessimstic investors and wall street wrong.

so wut are those "achieved goals" u refered to, Plz?

Market share and saving...PC business is still doing nicely, it's the storage and server business that have been hampered. So there are pros and cons. That's what I meant they have achieved some and failed some. Certainly not the WORST merger.

1) PC business is NOT doing nicely, it's as poor as before their merge
2) Everything has pros and cons
3) what made u draw the conclusion that I said it's the worst merge in the history?