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Name a better car for $84,060 then.......

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MJinZ said:
It LOOKS like it's from the 90s. And it really is considering the current C6 looks nearly identical to C5, the only substantial difference being the substantially uglier open headlights.

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This C5 is better looking than your car, even though it basically looks the same.
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Sometimes a designer just gets it right. Why change perfection? 😛
 
everydae said:
Mmm.. I am not sure about your definition of 'as fast as,' but by my definition, Cayman S is not as fast as 911 Turbo (GT-R competitor). 0-60 for 4.8s, 1/4 mile for 13.3s @ 106 mph, Nürburgring for 8:20.

Fast, but definitely not in the same league as GT-R (3.8s / 11.6s @ 120 mph / 7:54), 911 Turbo (3.6s / 11.7s @ 121 mph / 7:54) or Z06 (3.9s / 12s @ 119 mph / 7:56).

Probably you were talking about Cayman S being close to 911 standard (4.7s / 12.8s @ 109 mph / 8:15), but it's not in the GT-R's league either. GT-R, 911 Turbo and Z06 are in totally different game from Cayman S and 911.
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A Cayman S will never be as fast as a 911 Turbo, but it does compare wel with the base 911. For $75k, it's the car I would buy.
 
GasX said:
A Cayman S will never be as fast as a 911 Turbo, but it does compare wel with the base 911. For $75k, it's the car I would buy.
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Good choice but no doubt there would be a lot of "LOL" following that then. We are talking about $ 84k GT-R that competes $ 132k 911 Turbo, and you are saying $ 75k Porsche that is slower and less scarce, and probably has less character should end the argument? 🙂 I can understand Z06 argument, but Cayman?

To each, his own I guess.. but sorry, I will have to join LOL crowd.
 
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GasX said:
A Cayman S will never be as fast as a 911 Turbo, but it does compare wel with the base 911. For $75k, it's the car I would buy.
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Base 911 sucks for the money. I never really understood Cayman. It's basically a Boxster with a hardtop yet it costs more than a convertible. Every other car, convertible costs more. I would buy Boxster S before Cayman or base 911.

But none of the above even competes with the Z06 or the GT-R in performance and bang for buck. That's the point of this thread. Best performance for $75k new.
 
Naustica said:
Base 911 sucks for the money. I never really understood Cayman. It's basically a Boxster with a hardtop yet it costs more than a convertible. Every other car, convertible costs more. I would buy Boxster S before Cayman or base 911.

But none of the above even competes with the Z06 or the GT-R in performance and bang for buck. That's the point of this thread. Best performance for $75k new.
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On a pure performance metric you're absolutely correct. The Z06 (even the base and GS!) and GT-R are pretty much unbeatable for daily-driver high-performance vehicles with the best specs and benchmarks.

The 911 is a different animal really. Performance is quite good, and comparable to base Vette levels, but the interior and driving experience are arguably (I say this because 'feel' is so damned subjective) the finest in the price range. 911 is a very livable car. It wasn't always this way, I think only the 996 forward are as friendly as you'd expect, the older models were a bit twitchy and eccentric in feedback, but they had their own charms. Certainly 911 isn't for everyone.

I agree personally, I think the Boxster S offers the most compelling experience compared to base 911 or base Cayman. Cayman S is a little out of the league of Boxster S, I think the frame is a bit more rigid offering higher track performance, but they probably handle just as well on windy roads at more sane speeds.

The title of this thread is open to interpretation though, and a million subjective ideas can confuse the issue. Ultimately with a description so vague as 'better car', there will be dozens of different answers, all just as valid as the last for the most part. For some people the best car at or under $75k might be a 4wd 4 door truck/suv (living on a farm in Idaho), for some people it might be a Fusion Hybrid (living and working in congested LA Metro area), for some people it might be a 1993 Accord, because it's all paid off and they're putting their money into savings for their kids education funds and paying off their mortgage.
 
GasX said:
Known Porsche hater, Jeremy Clarkson's view of the new 911 Turbo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO7XvOt9suM
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911 Turbo is a different car and comparable to the GT-R. But at around $140k, it's overpriced.

I dunno. 911 Turbo is nice but when you drive it, it drives like an ordinary car. It's basically equivalent to the Z06 which is like 1/2 price of the Turbo. I would buy Z06 or Viper over the Turbo and take the savings and spend it on hookers and blow. And I'm not a big fan of the Viper because I find the inside cabin to be extremely claustrophobic. It's the only car that made me feel that way and I could never get comfortable driving it because of it. But I'll still take it over the Turbo because with the Viper, it actually looks and feels like you're driving a street legal race car.
 
Dollar for Dollar, driving experiance, i don't see how you can beat a miata or and s2000.

If you need 4 seats and powerfull engine, i don't see how a GTR could possibly be better experiance than a M3.

Don't get me wrong, GT-R is a phenomenal car. Its electronics are amazing, and its on-track performance is phenomenal.

But is it better than M3? heck no (IMO, your free to disagree).

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