Not once did the original post mention security. That's one of the main reason's people are fleeing IE. Also, you can always use IE for those bank SSL sites that need it.
I loved Opera, but it randomly hung when loading pages. Not just me, it's a rampant problem according to the Opera forums. Until that's 100% fixed, I'll have to settle with FF.
The question isn't about Opera - I'm just recommending another good browser out there. Granted, the security of IE may not be perfect, but it's more than enough for banking (if the banks out there will support online banking, IMO that's a pretty valid statement ... they would back up their financial data and company stake on IE.) Security is a problem that I did forget to address, but then again if most online banks today are behind the technology, I figure I'm in safe hands.
All I'm saying is try it out, you won't be disappointed. You see everyone that uses it (95%+) either use it as their primary or secondary browser.
All I'm saying is try it out, you won't be disappointed. You see everyone that uses it (95%+) either use it as their primary or secondary browser.
yeah, i've been using Maxthon for the last 3-4 days, and it's absolutely wonderful. It works for sites that even Firefox doesn't work properly with, which is the best part.
BS. This is your response to everything but FF... and guess what? IT USES LESS MEMORY than FF and loads up much faster.
Understatement Of The Day.
That's a pretty big problem to forget!
I tried it and was disappointed. It has tons of bells and whistles and lots of clutter. It's like having all of Firefox's extensions installed at once. (not a good thing in my opinion)
You also don't list the open source nature of Firefox, which is why so many extensions are being created for it, and people even make their own custom builds. That's impressive flexibility.
They have Firefox running completely from a USB flash drive. Try that with MyIE2.
Or try running MyIE2 on Linux or MacOS. heh.So to name things that MyIE2 doesn't have.
1. Security.
2. Open source code. "Roll your own" browser/extension/anything.
3. Run from USB flash drive.
4. Run the same browser natively on any modern OS.
5. The *choice* of what options are installed.
6. Lack of "browser helper" spyware garbage.
I use MyIE2 everyday and love it.
FireFox is a good backup but feels clunky when loading pictures and heavy when opening many tabs.
FireFox is a good backup but feels clunky when loading pictures and heavy when opening many tabs.
one of these days .. imma pull myself away from Firefox and try another browser for more than a day.
Sounds like an awesome feature that I would use..except I, personally, don't really need one or use it often enough to remember the shortcuts of whatever I'm searching. I still think it'd be nice to have in myIE2/maxthon anyways
(btw, awesome word!)rough rough overview of points
Speed: Maybe it's just my connection (cable), but I don't notice any difference in surfing speed, so none of the browsing programs really feel bulky. What annoyed me about FF are all the extensions I wanted and needed to individually install. It didn't let me settle in as quickly and comfortably as myIE2/maxthon.
About security: Pop-up blocker works just fine (meIE2/maxthon user btw =P) and spyware catching stuff I leave to Ad-aware, Spybot, and Spyblaster. If the browser can't reach/surpass these types of programs, I don't see the usefulness of such a feature and adds "bulk" that so many people love to complain about.
Trouble: On the subject of bulk, I felt most of the functions implemented were well placed (for my taste). Anything I didn't like took less than a minute to easily navigate through the options to these extensions to deactivate/delete them. As for the installation itself, all my settings, favorites, and whatever were easily transferred to the next version upgrade, which was as easy as updating my antivirus definitions.
I hope the bold titles made my post seems smaller and easier to read =]
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lol man you get into the firefox versus IE thing dont you? well, i have used internet explorer 6 as my main browser since SP2
, look thru the menus in MyIE2, im talking about how cluttered it is, personally, im too lazy to figure it out, hence the reason i make the bloatware comments, i could care less about memory usage, i got a gig, dont use tabs or mouse gestures, use keyboard whenever possible, the onlything i see in it that i would like is that adhunter, but i got spyware blaster to disable flash ads in IE, so thats no big deal. Im not a firefox fanboy by any means. I have caught hell for some of the stuff i have said about firefox and IE. I mean, this MyIE2 and Firefox and if you bought windows, IE is free. People can easliy switch between all three. I have internet explorer and firefox installed and use both. I really like both of them. i am glad that microsoft has gotten some competition with it, although not much. Might help things out in the future. And i will abandon firefox alltogether as soon as they integrate a iframe and image blocker into IE. plus, firefox has bad memory leeks
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most of that has to do with people not using windows update, SP2 will make the activex box not pop up by default, its gonna help allot of n00bies avoid trouble if/when they upgrade to SP2.
Schadenfroh
It has nothing to do with windows update.
IE has several unpatched holes. Unpatched meaning, not patched by Microsoft. Meaning no windows update cure.
Sheesh.
However, you're right in that people definitely need to either have automatic updates or visit WU more frequently than they do.
Here's your latest IE 0-day exploit.
I'm not sure if it works on MyIE2 or XP SP2, but I would guess it affects 70% of the world!
I certainly works in fully patched XP SP1.
(Not the most impressive exploit, I admit. But I'd like to see anyone fix it with windows update!)
BTW, what do you suggest for the 50+ percent of the world not using WindowsXP, and therefore not able to use XP SP2?
It has nothing to do with windows update.
IE has several unpatched holes. Unpatched meaning, not patched by Microsoft. Meaning no windows update cure.
Sheesh.
However, you're right in that people definitely need to either have automatic updates or visit WU more frequently than they do.
Here's your latest IE 0-day exploit.
I'm not sure if it works on MyIE2 or XP SP2, but I would guess it affects 70% of the world!
I certainly works in fully patched XP SP1.
(Not the most impressive exploit, I admit. But I'd like to see anyone fix it with windows update!)
BTW, what do you suggest for the 50+ percent of the world not using WindowsXP, and therefore not able to use XP SP2?
No, it's just everytime somebody brings up another browser alternative, you ALWAYS return with your canned response of 'it's too bloated'... nothing more, nothing less said. Having simply more features is NOT being bloated... not if it doesn't slow the system down, and infact it's faster than Firefox or IE.
I didn't use Opera, Avant, FF or CrazyBrowser as my secondary. Primary is MyIE2, 2ndary is IE.
Look, not to get statistical, but all I'm saying is just try it.
1. Security. It does 128-bit encryption. If that's good enough for my bank, I don't understand why I need CIA-standard encryption. I'm not that important.
2. Open source code... touche. I can't touch this one, MyIE2 is commercial (reminder once-ware at worst), but for all its benefits, I could care less.
3. Have you tried to run MyIE2 on USB? Don't knock till you tried it. Really now, 256MB can hold IE, MyIE and FF combined...
4. With XP being dominant, I haven't touched a mac in years, and nix is only at school (where no one has permissions to install anything anyways.)
5. http://myie2.tarapages.com/
6. Apparantly you didn't try the program out long enough, it has the ad blocker built in with a click of a button...
MyIE2 is updated every month or so to fix on any bugs, and add new improvements. So yes, the developers are still very much alive.
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lol, does every thread about IE or firefox boil down into a flamewar between wich is the best? Im part of the cause of it in this thread. Simms man, im sorry for what i contributed to this thread, it has obviosly caused it to be steered in the wrong direction and Hardcore, i apologize if i have offended you in any way, shape or form.
Like I said in the PMs, just give it a try. It's pretty good once you try it, I just want to let people know there are alternatives besides FF and Opera out there. Your comments are always appreciated, and I like the debate.
I don't need an extension to use tabs on FF or Mozilla. I'm not sure WTF you are talking about.
FF and Mozilla work just fine, the pages that don't display properly are generally broken.
I can middle click a copied URL into a tab and have the tab go to that page. Not sure how different that is though.
I don't think I need a plugin, I right click on the ad and tell it to go away.
I can search google without the google bar.
Nice try, but this ISN'T A DIFFERENT BROWSER. It's IE, with a different UI. Come back when they've accomplished a bit more.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and I use the middle button constantly, so using it for Mozilla/FF isn't a big deal.
It's obvious you haven't done much homework. FF doesn't need any extensions; all gecko browsers have tabs built-in, including Netscape.
What? Works like FF? This whole post is a big long explanation of how it is different from firefox.
You get the IE rendering engine along with the IE exploits.
The problem of idiots writing only for IE will be fixed by more people using browsers other than IE. Be part of the solution, not the problem.
Netscape would be the same as firefox; they both use gecko. I sure hope you're not talking about Netscape 4, are you? Welcome to four years ago.
Hahaha, they really call it "super"? That's pretty funny.
How often do I use the middle button? Why, all the time actually. And even if I didn't, I don't see how that's a problem. It's not like you have to search for it, it's right there. Pretty obvious. "much better" than a middle button? How? It's pretty hard for me to see how a minute movement with one button is better than a simple click of another. I'd like to know how exactly it's "better."
You know, undo is an interesting thing. I've wondered about how undo could be applied to things other than document editing, such as window management. It's a nifty idea, Then again, sticking undo into everything gets a bit ridiculous. Is it really that hard to just go back to the webpage? Are you really so uncoordinated that you randomly click things all the time?
I've used a few methods of ad blocking, and in the end, it's pointless. I don't care about ads; my mind tunes them out. Though I suppose if those horrid javascript atrocities worked in my browser, I'd want to block them too.
Eh? All browsers do that.
That seems pretty random. I'm sure I could go search down random features of firefox that are cooler than that.
Who cares? Is typing a g so difficult? Firefox has a dedicated box for google searching and I'm sure there is a keyboard shortcut to get to it too. The whole google-searching-quickness argument seems kind of silly to me. I actually go to google.com every time I want to search, and I do it a lot. I don't see the big deal.
IMO you look pretty foolish saying that IE is "good."
BingBongWongFooey, really, it's ok. If you think FF is better, that's fine. I don't want a flamewar nor do I want your opinions pushed on mine. All I want to do is to let people know that there is an alternative out there that ISN'T Firefox.
For FF I'm talking about Tabbrowser extensions. That is a plugin. I realize tabs are built in, but ask yourself... are you using the Tabbrowser extension now? If so, that renders your point moot.. who cares if there are tabs preinstalled with FF if you don't even use them UNTIL you have an extension?
This whole post is not about how FF is different from everyone else. Get off your high horse. This is about an ALTERNATIVE that I want to let people nkow about.
As for this quote, you make absolutely no reference to anything, so I can't really say much to this. If you mean load support, Netscape also has its problems.
If you use the middle button, :beer: for you. You really pwned me with this point. :roll: For me, a click slide is a lot faster than moving my index button to the middle one and clicking, then moving my hand back. If you use the middle button, good for you.
If you forget the URL, or if it's just a dynamic ASP page with no correct title, then yes, it's useful. Or if you close a page and need it back it's there... I'm not sure what you imply here, but yes, it's in MyIE2.
If you don't care about ads, go stick to IE. Yes, MyIE2 blocks the javascript too.
Not all browsers will get past stupid non-right clicks, hidden javascripts, iframe and frames with one click. Eh.
Oh yea, like Firesomething. Really, I need my CPU power to be used creating "Mozilla AquaSheep". Downloading Flash movies may be necessary to save to your HD, and MyIE2 makes it easy.
This point was addressed to another member who mentioned that they use 'g' prefix to search in Opera.
Good thing it's IYO. :roll:
Get back on topic and stop with the flamewar. Try MyIE2, and if you have problems, address them here. Otherwise take you and your FF fanboi attitude out of here. If you're so set on FF, what are you doing in this thread that simply lists an alternative?
For FF I'm talking about Tabbrowser extensions. That is a plugin. I realize tabs are built in, but ask yourself... are you using the Tabbrowser extension now? If so, that renders your point moot.. who cares if there are tabs preinstalled with FF if you don't even use them UNTIL you have an extension?
This whole post is not about how FF is different from everyone else. Get off your high horse. This is about an ALTERNATIVE that I want to let people nkow about.
As for this quote, you make absolutely no reference to anything, so I can't really say much to this. If you mean load support, Netscape also has its problems.
If you use the middle button, :beer: for you. You really pwned me with this point. :roll: For me, a click slide is a lot faster than moving my index button to the middle one and clicking, then moving my hand back. If you use the middle button, good for you.
If you forget the URL, or if it's just a dynamic ASP page with no correct title, then yes, it's useful. Or if you close a page and need it back it's there... I'm not sure what you imply here, but yes, it's in MyIE2.
If you don't care about ads, go stick to IE. Yes, MyIE2 blocks the javascript too.
Not all browsers will get past stupid non-right clicks, hidden javascripts, iframe and frames with one click. Eh.
Oh yea, like Firesomething. Really, I need my CPU power to be used creating "Mozilla AquaSheep". Downloading Flash movies may be necessary to save to your HD, and MyIE2 makes it easy.
This point was addressed to another member who mentioned that they use 'g' prefix to search in Opera.
Good thing it's IYO. :roll:
Get back on topic and stop with the flamewar. Try MyIE2, and if you have problems, address them here. Otherwise take you and your FF fanboi attitude out of here. If you're so set on FF, what are you doing in this thread that simply lists an alternative?
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