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My Z680 subwoofer blew while watching Transformers
- Thread starter RatDog
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YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
You have a lot of different paths you could take.
A new receiver and subwoofer would work. The logitech satellites are 8-ohm and should not pose any problems to integrate into a standard receiver based setup.
Is this system going to be used for the comptuer only, or is this going to be hooked up to other sources as well? Do you see yourself getting an external HD-DVD player or Blu-ray player in the future?
What will you be playing on this system? Just movies / games, or is music important as well?
My first thought is that you should do one of the following:
Basic receiver + Basic subwoofer + Keep using Logitech Sats (~$350)
Full featured receiver + Basic subwoofer + Keep using Logitech Sats (~$550)
Basic receiver + Pretty good subwoofer + Keep using Logitech Sats (~$550)
Basic receiver + Basic subwoofer + Buy 3 speakers + use the Logitech Sats as surrounds / rears ($???)
How happy are you with the sound quality you were getting from the Logitech set while it was working?
Is this something you're interested in and would likely be putting more money into it over time to upgrade the system?
A new receiver and subwoofer would work. The logitech satellites are 8-ohm and should not pose any problems to integrate into a standard receiver based setup.
Is this system going to be used for the comptuer only, or is this going to be hooked up to other sources as well? Do you see yourself getting an external HD-DVD player or Blu-ray player in the future?
What will you be playing on this system? Just movies / games, or is music important as well?
My first thought is that you should do one of the following:
Basic receiver + Basic subwoofer + Keep using Logitech Sats (~$350)
Full featured receiver + Basic subwoofer + Keep using Logitech Sats (~$550)
Basic receiver + Pretty good subwoofer + Keep using Logitech Sats (~$550)
Basic receiver + Basic subwoofer + Buy 3 speakers + use the Logitech Sats as surrounds / rears ($???)
How happy are you with the sound quality you were getting from the Logitech set while it was working?
Is this something you're interested in and would likely be putting more money into it over time to upgrade the system?
YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
Oh... and what do you mean by blew?
The logitech subs have fuses on them, you might be able to just replace that and get them working again 😛
The logitech subs have fuses on them, you might be able to just replace that and get them working again 😛
Thanks for the info guys. By blew I mean the sound went snap, crackle, fizzle and the closet where I keep my gear filled with smoke. Also, a very ominous hum began eminating from the sub. I will check the fuse tonight.
The system is used primarily for movies and games via computer. If the price of drives for BD and HDDVD do not become reasonable soon, then I will be persuing stand alone players. Occasionally I feed the sound from the cable box/dvr. Music is not important.
The system is used primarily for movies and games via computer. If the price of drives for BD and HDDVD do not become reasonable soon, then I will be persuing stand alone players. Occasionally I feed the sound from the cable box/dvr. Music is not important.
YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
Keep in mind that if you do get a receiver, it might not be as straightforward to use it for gaming as it is to hook up a computer speaker set.
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...1=digital+audio+thread
For gaming you'll want to either hook up via a multichannel analog connection (this requires a lot of connections and could have bass management issues) or via digital with a card that is capable of encoding DD / DTS.
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...1=digital+audio+thread
For gaming you'll want to either hook up via a multichannel analog connection (this requires a lot of connections and could have bass management issues) or via digital with a card that is capable of encoding DD / DTS.
Well, I checked the fuse on the back of the sub. It was fine. Are there other fuses that can be checked or is the unit likely beyond hope?
The sound card in my computer is a DIAMOND XtremeSound XS71DDL. So (correct me if I'm wrong) there should be no issues connecting to any receiver.
From reading your HT guide, I think I would probably choose the 10" Dayton Basic subwoofer (unless you advise otherwise).
So what do you think would be a good receiver to go with all this? The Onkyo 605 is almost in my price range. It seems somewhat future-proof (is anything ever really future-proof?). Or is it silly to match a receiver of that quality with speakers and sub I will be using (is everything even compatible for that matter?).
Thanks for your guidance Soundman.
The sound card in my computer is a DIAMOND XtremeSound XS71DDL. So (correct me if I'm wrong) there should be no issues connecting to any receiver.
From reading your HT guide, I think I would probably choose the 10" Dayton Basic subwoofer (unless you advise otherwise).
So what do you think would be a good receiver to go with all this? The Onkyo 605 is almost in my price range. It seems somewhat future-proof (is anything ever really future-proof?). Or is it silly to match a receiver of that quality with speakers and sub I will be using (is everything even compatible for that matter?).
Thanks for your guidance Soundman.
YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
Yeah, no problems with that DDL solution. A digital connection to any receiver should get you surround sound from games without issues.
The Dayton 10" + Onkyo 605 + Logitech Sats will work.
If you see yourself upgrading your speakers at some point and will be connecting an external HD-DVD player or Blu-Ray player, that would probably be a good way to go.
If you're not planning on that though, you'd probably get a better balance by going with a more affordable receiver and spending more on the subwoofer or if possible, better front speakers.
The 605 would be my $400 receiver of choice, but it's overkill for the Logitech Sats. The main benefit would be the audio processing over HDMI, but even if you do end up using that, your speakers are going to be limiting your quality a lot anyway.
If you blew your z-680 sub, I assume you had the bass up quite a bit?
You'd probably be in better shape getting a better subwoofer and a budget receiver.
Something like one of the Elemental Design subs in the $350 range and a receiver like an Onkyo 505 would get you good bang for the buck to start and would allow you to expand easily with better speakers at a later date if you choose to do so. (The 505 will get you most of what the 605 offers but at half the price)
How are you going to have things configured right now in terms of distance from yourself to the speakers?
If it's just a single seating location with the speakers right near you, it's not going to be too bad keeping the Logitech Sats and for space reasons, you might not want to go with "real" speakers anyway.
If you're trying to fill a whole room with sound though for gaming / movie watching, then it becomes more important to get some better speakers.
The Dayton 10" + Onkyo 605 + Logitech Sats will work.
If you see yourself upgrading your speakers at some point and will be connecting an external HD-DVD player or Blu-Ray player, that would probably be a good way to go.
If you're not planning on that though, you'd probably get a better balance by going with a more affordable receiver and spending more on the subwoofer or if possible, better front speakers.
The 605 would be my $400 receiver of choice, but it's overkill for the Logitech Sats. The main benefit would be the audio processing over HDMI, but even if you do end up using that, your speakers are going to be limiting your quality a lot anyway.
If you blew your z-680 sub, I assume you had the bass up quite a bit?
You'd probably be in better shape getting a better subwoofer and a budget receiver.
Something like one of the Elemental Design subs in the $350 range and a receiver like an Onkyo 505 would get you good bang for the buck to start and would allow you to expand easily with better speakers at a later date if you choose to do so. (The 505 will get you most of what the 605 offers but at half the price)
How are you going to have things configured right now in terms of distance from yourself to the speakers?
If it's just a single seating location with the speakers right near you, it's not going to be too bad keeping the Logitech Sats and for space reasons, you might not want to go with "real" speakers anyway.
If you're trying to fill a whole room with sound though for gaming / movie watching, then it becomes more important to get some better speakers.
SlickSnake
Diamond Member
I would most likely not bother repairing the sub. You can get a great quality refurb JBL or Infinity sub off the ebay site below, and a cheap H/K receiver that will last you for years. Also, their customer service is excellent. Just look at their Ebay feedback. I have even purchased JBL PC speakers from them, and I use a JBL Soundgear 3030 Bi amped Bi wired digital mini system on my main PC. With no need for a sub on it, but it will support one.
I also just noticed this: Date first available at Amazon.com: September 4, 1973 LOL! Someone must have had a time machine!
<snip>
I haven't gone wrong yet by purchasing Harman Kardon products for the last 8 years. I have bought refurb products online, from Ebay at their store and from their online store that were either in perfect refurb condition, or new in the box and sold as refurbs, including Infinity Interlude and Beta speaker systems. All their products bought from them as refurbs have a full manufacturers warranty, too.
Harman Audio Ebay Store
Harman Audio Online Store
I also just noticed this: Date first available at Amazon.com: September 4, 1973 LOL! Someone must have had a time machine!
<snip>
I haven't gone wrong yet by purchasing Harman Kardon products for the last 8 years. I have bought refurb products online, from Ebay at their store and from their online store that were either in perfect refurb condition, or new in the box and sold as refurbs, including Infinity Interlude and Beta speaker systems. All their products bought from them as refurbs have a full manufacturers warranty, too.
Harman Audio Ebay Store
Harman Audio Online Store
I do see your point about getting a better sub. My entertainment room is 18' by 11' with the viewing position pretty much in the center of the room. My previous setup had been adequate to my ears. But as I am audio n00bic and you are the Soundman I value your opinion. So if you say I would be better off with better speakers I believe you. But Sub+Receiver+Speakers will start pushing my budget. What speakers would you recommend?
YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
It's hard to recommend something since sound is such a personal thing, but I have some suggestions in the sticky thread at the top of this area.
The $169/pair ($139 center) X-Series from AV123 would be my first suggestion for a low cost but high quality speaker option for you.
That doesn't include shipping though, so it's going to be beyond your budget if you get a subwoofer and receiver as well.
If you liked what the Logitech Sats were doing in your room, then getting a basic receiver and a decent subwoofer for now would probably be a good start. You can always add to the system later if you choose to do so.
You could probably get something like the Polk R-series worked into the budget along with a budget receiver and budget subwoofer, but based on the room size and your ability to destroy subwoofers, I think doing the subwoofer right the first time would be a safer bet than a budget one.
YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
You're no fun 😉
Kaido
Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
The z-680s are the model that the z-5500s replaced a few years ago, so I'm pretty sure they'd be out of warranty.
YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
:Q
YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
Yeah well I didn't know they'd have refurbs to quickly 😉
YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
:thumbsup:
YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
Oh I know, just kidding about that before 😉
https://mywebspace.wisc.edu/sp.../Random/Log_vs_SVS.JPG
https://mywebspace.wisc.edu/sp...om/Log%20vs%20Rock.JPG
sdifox
No Lifer
What size is that woofer? The Logitech one. Looks like a 6.5 at most and I got 4 6.5 on each of my main.
Me think his amp clipped and that did the woofer in.
P.S. What are you doing with so many different subs??? And the second picture, maybe the speaker cable should not be blocking the drivers? Or do those just serve as speaker stand?
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