My wife

Exterous

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Just showed me the adapter she bought for her iPhone.

"it allows me to charge my phone and listen to my headphones at the same time!"

OK...

"it's cool!"

I mean sure I guess it's cool you had to buy something that allows you to do something my Samsung just does already

*glaring* "why can't you just share in my joy?"





And no, no pics
 

Exterous

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Imagine if everyone who ever made that snide remark felt that it was worth making a thread about.

This place would be lively again. Of course it was more than that. If you read into the literary depths of the post you'll find commentary on the absurdity of dongles, disparity of tech ecosystems and the emotions illicited, with hints of the complex interplay of a long term relationship behind the veil of formality
 

SKORPI0

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Thread fail. No pics of adaptor or wife. :(;)

I'm assuming it's something like this one?
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SJZ243G/
 

lxskllr

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Ichinisan

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... If you read into the literary depths of the post you'll find commentary on the absurdity of dongles, disparity of tech ecosystems and the emotions illicited, with hints of the complex interplay of a long term relationship behind the veil of formality
Wow. Fantastic new insights!
 

rh71

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Yes, I love laughing at Apple creating solutions for problems that didn't exist. Because more money. Which means - who are the suckers who just keep buying into it?
 
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destrekor

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Yes, I love laughing at Apple creating solutions for problems that didn't exist. Because more money. Which means - who are the suckers who just keep buying into it?

You realize it's not just Apple these days, right? My Pixel 3 XL doesn't have one. Many other modern phones haven't had them for a few generations either? Samsung is even rumored to be ditching them with the upcoming generation (S11, Note 10). Samsung is one of the last holdouts with a headphone jack on flagship phone models and even that may be coming to an end. You can still find them, on models that aren't as powerful or fully featured as the flagships though.
 

lxskllr

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You realize it's not just Apple these days, right? My Pixel 3 XL doesn't have one. Many other modern phones haven't had them for a few generations either? Samsung is even rumored to be ditching them with the upcoming generation (S11, Note 10). Samsung is one of the last holdouts with a headphone jack on flagship phone models and even that may be coming to an end. You can still find them, on models that aren't as powerful or fully featured as the flagships though.
Yea, the other companies follow apple like lemmings. Just because other people do it doesn't make it right. Phone jacks are free to install for all intents and purposes, and some significant fraction of people want them, or they wouldn't be selling stupid shit like dongles.
 

destrekor

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Yea, the other companies follow apple like lemmings. Just because other people do it doesn't make it right. Phone jacks are free to install for all intents and purposes, and some significant fraction of people want them, or they wouldn't be selling stupid shit like dongles.

Well it's not the cost of adding the hardware (which is, yes, so cheap to be practically free), it's the engineering challenge of the internal layout and fitting in a sizable battery. Basically, with thin phones you rarely get a battery that actually is a flat square pad that fills the whole back, it's more shaped to fill in the voids between components. There's actually a lot that goes into that aspect, and as all flagship models have become thin, and that's what is selling, thin with displays that take up the entire front face, this is what we're stuck with. It was the thinness itself at first but even with phones getting a little thicker again it's now the screen and squeezing in other components at the top and bottom and antenna placement that has made extra features actually a negative to add, unless you want a tiny battery and everyone would complain about that too.

I've watched a few videos explaining the internal engineering process which drives these decisions and it's quite informative. It is truly the engineering that has driven this and not some business complaint about manufacturing costs. Battery and antennas have largely been the driving force, optimizing those and scrapping what impedes that -- it's largely been the bet that more users would complain (and sales would drop) if they scrimped on battery and antennas versus if they just get rid of external features like headphone jack and SD card reader, and is a main reason why eSIM is becoming the new thing versus external SIM card slots.
 

lxskllr

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Maybe instead of shaving a fraction of a mm no one gives a shit about aside from tards reading spec sheets, they should just put in a fuckin' headphone jack. I got a low end phone last time so I could have a removable battery, and I guess a headphone jack, but things hadn't gotten stupid at that point. Most phones still had jacks. It's in a case, and only the most hardcore of *techies would know it wasn't a flagship.

*techies in regards to phones is laughable. It's basically a bunch of fanboys that eat all the shit the manufacturers shovel. They don't do any hacking, they don't do much important in any regard. They just jerkoff over spec sheets, and consume, cause resources are free afterall.
 

Muadib

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We can’t all be air pod douches :rolleyes:
There are other wireless headphones out there you know. I like the Jabra Elite Active 65t, but you can get the wireless Beats if you want to stay with Apple. Both sound better than the airpods.
 

WelshBloke

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Well it's not the cost of adding the hardware (which is, yes, so cheap to be practically free), it's the engineering challenge of the internal layout and fitting in a sizable battery. Basically, with thin phones you rarely get a battery that actually is a flat square pad that fills the whole back, it's more shaped to fill in the voids between components. There's actually a lot that goes into that aspect, and as all flagship models have become thin, and that's what is selling, thin with displays that take up the entire front face, this is what we're stuck with. It was the thinness itself at first but even with phones getting a little thicker again it's now the screen and squeezing in other components at the top and bottom and antenna placement that has made extra features actually a negative to add, unless you want a tiny battery and everyone would complain about that too.

I've watched a few videos explaining the internal engineering process which drives these decisions and it's quite informative. It is truly the engineering that has driven this and not some business complaint about manufacturing costs. Battery and antennas have largely been the driving force, optimizing those and scrapping what impedes that -- it's largely been the bet that more users would complain (and sales would drop) if they scrimped on battery and antennas versus if they just get rid of external features like headphone jack and SD card reader, and is a main reason why eSIM is becoming the new thing versus external SIM card slots.
This is why iPhones without headphones jacks have bigger batteries than phones with them.

Wait.... hold on... let me check that...

Nope.
 

balloonshark

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The Moto Z2 I bought for $99 doesn't have a headphone jack. It also has a lower mah battery to make it thin and so they can sell you their pricey mods. All horrible decisions IMHO.