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My wife and I test drove a 2016 Lexus GX460

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JulesMaximus said:
I drove the Mercedes-Benz GLE350. Wasn't blown away by it quite frankly and reliability isn't top notch with Mercedes either.

I'd like to drive the X5 but she seems set on the GX460. She prefers it to the 2016 RX350 we drove last month. I'll probably give the X5 a test drive sometime in the coming months. I've driven a friend's X5 (his has the V8 engine) and it is very nice but expensive.

The Lexus has the better reliability out of those 3 by far.
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Xc-90?
 
Xc90 is sweet but I wouldn't compare the two from a reliability standpoint. At any rate, I was sold on one but the wife said she doesn't want to spend that much on a car
 
JulesMaximus said:
😵 I'm not blocking traffic. I'm at home sitting in my chair at my computer.
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No, you're going to be in the way.

Motorcycles and reasonable cars won't be able to see around your barge, it's a nuance and an eyesore, a completely not-needed and selfish purchase.

Ok, enough. You've made your "point" in multiple attack posts, which may be more about you than the OP.

Perknose
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Jules, I am kind of surprised at your prospective choice, given that I see you (Lotus, Ducati) as a proponent of light and lithe. Body on frame SUVs seem like dinosaurs to me . . . yesterday's tech. How much is this you putting your own automotive outlook aside in order to honor your wife's wishes, even if you secretly think they're "Canyonero-level" misinformed?

I mean, I'm so torn! A good part of me salutes you for the wisdom and heart of putting the (even if illogical) human happiness of a member of The Family Jules (see what I did there?) ahead of your own "automotive ideology" even as another part of me screams, "Noooooooooo!" 😛
 
Perknose said:
Jules, I am kind of surprised at your prospective choice, given that I see you (Lotus, Ducati) as a proponent of light and lithe. Body on frame SUVs seem like dinosaurs to me . . . yesterday's tech. How much is this you putting your own automotive outlook aside in order to honor your wife's wishes, even if you secretly think they're "Canyonero-level" misinformed?

I mean, I'm so torn! A good part of me salutes you for the wisdom and heart of putting the (even if illogical) human happiness of a member of The Family Jules (see what I did there?) ahead of your own "automotive ideology" even as another part of me screams, "Noooooooooo!" 😛
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Hey, I was fine with the RX350 (which they make a hybrid version of) but she likes the GX.

What am I gonna do? :$
 
True off-road vehicles will likely always be body on frame because of the extreme torsional stresses they can be subjected to. A rubber mounted frame can be made stiff and gives the body some isolation, which can help keep the doors from hitting the lock pillars when the vehicle is twisted, for example.
 
crashtech said:
True off-road vehicles will likely always be body on frame because of the extreme torsional stresses they can be subjected to. A rubber mounted frame can be made stiff and gives the body some isolation, which can help keep the doors from hitting the lock pillars when the vehicle is twisted, for example.
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Correct, but I doubt Jules (or most of us, for that matter) is going to take his family on any sort of off-road trip featuring such extreme conditions. Pulling a figure right out of my copious and accommodating behind, I'd say north of 90% of all offroading most folks do can be done just fine with a unibody SUV.

And that doesn't begin to address the overkill this vehicle would be for its main task, showing suburban manses to the upwardly aspirational.

Hey, I know full well that many, if not most, vehicle purchasing decisions feature a ton of subjective/emotional input and don't exactly hew to gimlet-eyed logic . . .

But I'm piping up anyway! 😎
 
Perknose said:
Correct, but I doubt Jules (or most of us, for that matter) is going to take his family on any sort of off-road trip featuring such extreme conditions. Pulling a figure right out of my copious and accommodating behind, I'd say north of 90% of all offroading most folks do can be done just fine with a unibody SUV.

And that doesn't begin to address the overkill this vehicle would be for its main task, showing suburban manses to the upwardly aspirational.

Hey, I know full well that many, if not most, vehicle purchasing decisions feature a ton of subjective/emotional input and don't exactly hew to gimlet-eyed logic . . .

But I'm piping up anyway! 😎
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I would take it off-road. I know my wife wouldn't but I would.

I go out to the desert to go shooting from time to time and usually meet up with a friend who has a truck. I've owned and taken company trucks out there many times (a 2WD truck can handle the off-roading we do). Would be fun to do some star gazing with it as well.

And camping with my son would no longer be a matter of what we can't bring because we can't fit it all in my Camry. 😀

Still, all of that would be a fraction of what we use it for on a daily basis. I'm figuring, she can drive it for 5 years, we depreciate it and then once it is fully depreciated we buy her something else and the GX just becomes a 3rd vehicle for trips to Home Depot or the desert or if I have to occasionally tow something.

My wife works out of the house so it really wouldn't rack up too many miles too quickly. I figure by the time she has 60,000 miles on it it would be close to being relegated to 3rd vehicle status.

NutBucket said:
Range Rovers are pretty damn capable offroad....just sayin' 😉
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:thumbsdown: But horribly unreliable.
 
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