My security cam system only has LAN and my home only has WIFI

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FlyerX

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Hello guys!


i just got a small pretty cool Network Video Recorder, cameras over network, less cabling better quality, i am happy with it, but id like to take advantage of the remote monitoring functions too.


The system has a LAN jack for the internet connection in the rear and in my house, the internet is provided by a wireless modem. the only port it has is a micro usb.


other than getting an additional service from my ISP only for that
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, what can i do?


i have too little knowledge on networking, i did a small network with a laptop and a wireless router in order to use the app in my phone to adjust the camera position, i mean, i did use the remote monitoring fuction but it only works if my phone and the system are in the same network. What i did is, i use another laptop i have around there i enabled the internet sharing so i connect the laptop to internet via wifi and the NVR to the laptop via LAN cable, the system did recognize the internet,, and my app too but when i wanted to view the cameras, no video at all, then i decide to try to then (with the laptop connected to the wify, to connect the laptop to the router IN line, and to connect the NVR to the router, and then i created a second wifi network with that router and then it work, but only work if both the NVR and the cellphone are in the same network.


but id like to do this without having a router and a computer all time and without the need of be in the same network in order to work.


i understand a router is for providing internet over wifi or lan, but is there a possibility to use the router (which has both lan and wifi function) to "catch" internet over wifi then to provide internet over LAN to the NVR?


or, then, the laptop does provide internet over lan but then it does not work inthe app.




what can i do?


thank you guys
 
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What are the device make and model for:

- Wireless modem
- Router

What is your WiFi internet configed like? Just one IP? Or can you have more?

While connected to the wifi, what IP do you receive?
 
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You could do a wireless bridge or powerline network adapter. There are ways to do it. Some routers, especially the Tomato/ddwrt variants, can act as bridges. ASUS routers might do it as well.
 
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ch33zw1z said:
What are the device make and model for:

- Wireless modem
- Router

What is your WiFi internet configed like? Just one IP? Or can you have more?

While connected to the wifi, what IP do you receive?
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The white modem is Alcatel MW41NF

the black router is Belkin G Wireless Router F5D7234-4


someone told me that i could solve it all with this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0195Y0A42


can you verify me if that would work?
 
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Yes that should work. You can use a switch connected to the Ethernet port as well if you needed more ports.

You can also use a wireless bridge, that will do the same thing but won't repeat the wifi signal.

Edit:
Also, you can isolate the main wifi network and use the Belkin if you want. Google "router as a WAP" and use a tutorial to configure the Belkin to not be a router. You would plug a lan to lan cable from Belkin to the tplink n300. Then you connect your WiFi devices to the belkin instead, and you could use the 3 leftover lan ports.
 
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i dont need the left over port, regarding wired network i only need/want to connect the NVR to the internet.

can the belking router be used to catch the wifi and to pass it to the NVR via ethernet?
 
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FlyerX said:
i dont need the left over port, regarding wired network i only need/want to connect the NVR to the internet.

can the belking router be used to catch the wifi and to pass it to the NVR via ethernet?
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http://cache-www.belkin.com/support/dl/man_f5d7234-4_v3000_pm01110-a_g.pdf

Per the manual, I haven't found an option for that yet.

You can turn on the belkin and browse it's config page, maybe it does, but I doubt it.

$17 for the tp-link that will do it, not a bad deal.
 
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ch33zw1z said:
http://cache-www.belkin.com/support/dl/man_f5d7234-4_v3000_pm01110-a_g.pdf

Per the manual, I haven't found an option for that yet.

You can turn on the belkin and browse it's config page, maybe it does, but I doubt it.

$17 for the tp-link that will do it, not a bad deal.
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yeha definitely, in another forum they are helping me with the config, but its too complicated, for us17, i will b purchasing that tonight, some days to arrive and i let you knw, i see i have been recomended two tp links, which one you suggest?
 
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Don't know the distance, but that router has 4 LAN ports on the back, either one of them that could be used to wire the camera directly
 
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FlyerX said:
yeha definitely, in another forum they are helping me with the config, but its too complicated, for us17, i will b purchasing that tonight, some days to arrive and i let you knw, i see i have been recomended two tp links, which one you suggest?
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Which two models?
 
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FlyerX said:
oh sorry, i thought the other model was recommended in this forum.

here are the two models, the one recommended here and another one someone else recommended me in another forum.
what do you think?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...20&ascsubtag=anandtech-3157350440554879644-20

https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...V9x6tBh2lRwgXEAQYAyABEgKBD_D_BwE,gclsrc:aw.ds
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TL-WA855RE:
https://www.tp-link.com/us/products/details/cat-5508_TL-WA855RE.html#specifications

TL-WA850RE:
https://www.tp-link.com/ae/products/details/cat-10_TL-WA850RE.html#specifications

There's very little difference:

1. 850RE is compatible with EU, UK, and US plug types

2. 855RE has external antennae, slightly affecting Reception Sensitivity

3. 855RE is rated at .6W more power consumption

Really, the differences are small enough that either will be fine. If you're really trying to stretch a distance in the house, getting the 855RE will likely perform a bit better due to external antennae
 
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ch33zw1z said:
TL-WA855RE:
https://www.tp-link.com/us/products/details/cat-5508_TL-WA855RE.html#specifications

TL-WA850RE:
https://www.tp-link.com/ae/products/details/cat-10_TL-WA850RE.html#specifications

There's very little difference:

1. 850RE is compatible with EU, UK, and US plug types

2. 855RE has external antennae, slightly affecting Reception Sensitivity

3. 855RE is rated at .6W more power consumption

Really, the differences are small enough that either will be fine. If you're really trying to stretch a distance in the house, getting the 855RE will likely perform a bit better due to external antennae
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thank you for the comparison

i am not worried about the distance, the deviice would be installed near the NVR, so the one with lower power consumption would be ok.

but watching the photos i see one of them, the 855 has vents... and theother is entirely closed... taing into account would be working 24/7. should i mind?
 
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It doesn't sound like you are going to work it too hard anyways. I would probably picked the 855re
 
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ch33zw1z said:
It doesn't sound like you are going to work it too hard anyways. I would probably picked the 855re
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yeah you are right, will be only for that purpose, and it will be placed close to both, the wifimodem and the NVR, in the same room btw.

One things that catch my attention from the 850re is>
"Transmit Power Control "
which mean i can lower the output wifi power? i am interested in that, the other(the 855re) does not mention that
also, the 850 mention in others descriptions that it is oriented for easy fet up and reliable stable connection, both devices are almost the same technically speaking but the 855re just dont mention that, what you think about it?
 
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I think both of those are moot points. Neither device will be difficult to setup, I seriously doubt their Dev team made two different ways that are so dissimilar that it would an obstacle for the average Joe (whom these types of devices are geared towards).

As for tranit power control, that's up to you. I've never turned down the transmit power of a wireless device.

I can say I've setup a couple tplink repeaters for friends and family. Takes about 15 minutes, they tend to just work, and any problems I encountered were my own fault. Such as not clicking save at the end of the setup process.

My advice overall is to not over think it, these aren't complex devices, either one will do what you need.
 
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Hi guys
i already have the 855RE, proper configured, everything good BUT it gaves me the same issue that with the laptop and the router configuration, only work if all are within the same network.

My wifi network is called Gisele, the extender created a network called Gisele Ext or something like that, the same password, the surveillance system is connected via ehterned to the extender, good, if the phone (where i have the surveillance system app is installed) is connected to the Gisele ext network IS ok, everything works fine, BUT if i conect the phone to any other internet, or from my own phone data service, it does not work.
 
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FlyerX said:
Hi guys
i already have the 855RE, proper configured, everything good BUT it gaves me the same issue that with the laptop and the router configuration, only work if all are within the same network.

My wifi network is called Gisele, the extender created a network called Gisele Ext or something like that, the same password, the surveillance system is connected via ehterned to the extender, good, if the phone (where i have the surveillance system app is installed) is connected to the Gisele ext network IS ok, everything works fine, BUT if i conect the phone to any other internet, or from my own phone data service, it does not work.
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Ok, just for clarity, when connected to the Gisele or Gisele-ext network, you can access the NVR ok?
 
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Ok, so if that's the case, you have two problems.

Your base WiFi hotspot should be running the network, and the tp link should just be repeating the signal and be on the same network

You need to start there and see what the IP configs are

What's the tp links IP? Hotspot lan IP?

What's your IP when joined to the extended network?

What's your IP when joined directly to the hotspot?

The second part is connecting from outside the network, which requires so config on the hotspot.

First, get the LAN/WLAN squared away
 
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