My security cam system only has LAN and my home only has WIFI

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FlyerX

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Ok, so if that's the case, you have two problems.

Your base WiFi hotspot should be running the network, and the tp link should just be repeating the signal and be on the same network

You need to start there and see what the IP configs are

What's the tp links IP? Hotspot lan IP?

What's your IP when joined to the extended network?

What's your IP when joined directly to the hotspot?

The second part is connecting from outside the network, which requires so config on the hotspot.

First, get the LAN/WLAN squared away


uhm.. i think i will need a more simpler language xD

my ip directly to the hotspot (the modem right?) is 152.167.193.156
my ip at the extended network is 152.167.193.152

"First, get the LAN/WLAN squared away"
what is that?
 

ch33zw1z

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uhm.. i think i will need a more simpler language xD

my ip directly to the hotspot (the modem right?) is 152.167.193.156
my ip at the extended network is 152.167.193.152

"First, get the LAN/WLAN squared away"
what is that?

Interesting. Two different public IP's. How are you checking your IP?

If on windows, open a command prompt and type ipconfig and then post the output.
 

ch33zw1z

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i just wrote "my ip" in google

Ok, so that's going to show your WAN IP, the IP assigned by the ISP.

Not going to dive into the tech stuff right now. What you are looking for is your LAN IP.

this will likely be something like 192.168.0.x (x being .1-.254). The hot spot is likely 192.168.0.1

If you're on a Windows pc, you can open and command prompt and type: ipconfig

this will list your LAN IP.

If youre using a phone, go to the WiFi connection details and see what your LAN IP is
 

FlyerX

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HI!

i got this:

IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.170
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

this was from my windows pc which is connected to the main wifi network
 

FlyerX

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in my windows pc, i switched to the extended wifi and did the same (run ipconfig) and got this:

IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.102
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
 

mxnerd

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So your extended wifi and main router's wifi is in same IP range. That's good.

It's also best to give your security cam a static IP address.

Does your security cam NVR remote monitor APP requires you setup port forwarding (on the main router)?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=security+camera+port+forwarding

Every vendor does it a bit differently so it can require different port.

Read the online/paper manual or post brand / model.

==

In you previous post you said

if the phone (where i have the surveillance system app is installed) is connected to the Gisele ext network IS ok, everything works fine, BUT if i connect the phone to any other internet, or from my own phone data service, it does not work.

1. what do you mean other internet?

2. it doesn't work if you connect from your own phone data service. That's because your LAN is in private IP range. Your phone using ISP data feed is in ISP's IP range. You usually have to setup port forwarding to make remote monitoring work.
 
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ch33zw1z

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So your extended wifi and main router's wifi is in same IP range. That's good.

It's also best to give your security cam a static IP address.

Does your security cam NVR remote monitor APP requires you setup port forwarding (on the main router)?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=security+camera+port+forwarding

Every vendor does it a bit differently so it can require different port.

Read the online/paper manual or post brand / model.

It's good, but he shouldn't be getting a different IP. The hot spot should just see the current lease on the MAC and just hand out the same IP.

I think your suspicions earlier were correct, the TP link is changing something somewhere, possibly acting as a DHCP server

@FlyerX - What did you config the TP Link's IP for? You need to open up the management gui and ensure it's only repeating. all other services disabled.

Earlier you were saying that when connected to the hot spot Wifi, you couldn't access the NVR, is that still accurate?
 

mxnerd

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@ch33zw1z , yeah, he should check TP-Link configuration but don't know why he never mention whether he did it or not. And I added something extra in my previous post.
 

FlyerX

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It's good, but he shouldn't be getting a different IP. The hot spot should just see the current lease on the MAC and just hand out the same IP.

I think your suspicions earlier were correct, the TP link is changing something somewhere, possibly acting as a DHCP server

@FlyerX - What did you config the TP Link's IP for? You need to open up the management gui and ensure it's only repeating. all other services disabled.

Earlier you were saying that when connected to the hot spot Wifi, you couldn't access the NVR, is that still accurate?

i can access to the cameras ONLY if the phone (wheere i acess from) is connected to the same new created by the extended network


i was about to ask you for the configuration of the extender, here i show you some captures of all my configurations
 

ch33zw1z

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@ch33zw1z , yeah, he should check TP-Link configuration but don't know why he never mention whether he did it or not. And I added something extra in my previous post.

Ok, I think he meant that he will want to access the NVR from outside his LAN.
 

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DSCN7573.JPG
This is the configuration of my wifi modem

beloww is the configurationn of the tp link extender
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and here, the configuration of the NVR system:
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mxnerd

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Router & extended wifi looks good. So the only thing left is:

What's your NVR system / security camera brand /model? and the link to your mobile app.

But yor NVR system has told you it has a http video interface on port 5000 for PC and port 5001 for mobile device.

You have to setup port forwarding on Belkin Alcatel router to forward TCP port 5000 to 192.168.1.101 and TCP port 5001 to 192.168.1.101

You probably don't even need an app.

All you need is open any browser and visit http://192.168.1.101:5000 on PC and http://192.168.1.101:5001 on your mobile phone on you LAN.

The reason vendor doing this is mobile phone has a smaller user interface.

If you constantly need to access your NVR/security camera on outside, you need to get a free DDNS service that will convert your router's public IP to a domain name.

Like the screenshot where it shows a DDNS button. Click that and setup a DDNS account. After that then you can visit your camera system via http(s)://yourddns.someddnsdomain.com(and probably port number)
 
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ch33zw1z

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Couple notes:

1. Make the wifi ssid the same on the TP link
2. What are the other areas of the TP link config? Network? Advanced?

3. Matter of preference, but I prefer static ip configs on devices like the TPlink and NVR. You can try to see on the main wifi unit if you can do a Static DHCP reservation, so you can leave DHCP on the clients, but when the main wifi hot spot see's the MAC from the devices, it will always assign the same IP.

This will matter more for the NVR, as it will possibly require some port forwarding to get to from outside your LAN.
 

FlyerX

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the privous links to DIY videos on you tube would be more helpfull if my system would be connected directly to a router who has internet froma wired source like in those videos.

my case it s little different, we are pulling a wired internet from a full wireless modem, using a extender
 

mxnerd

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Wireless or wired, it doesn't matter. Your wired & wireless network are in the same IP range.

I think my instructions above was clear enough.
 

FlyerX

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Router & extended wifi looks good. So the only thing left is:

What's your NVR system / security camera brand /model? and the link to your mobile app.

But yor NVR system has told you it has a http video interface on port 5000 for PC and port 5001 for mobile device.

You have to setup port forwarding on Belkin router to forward TCP port 5000 to 192.168.1.101 and TCP port 5001 to 192.168.1.101

You probably don't even need an app.

All you need is open any browser and visit http://192.168.1.101:5000 on PC and http://192.168.1.101:5001 on your mobile phone on you LAN.

The reason vendor doing this is mobile phone has a smaller user interface.

If you constantly need to access your NVR/security camera on outside, you need to get a free DDNS service that will convert your router's public IP to a domain name.

Like the screenshot where it shows a DDNS button. Click that and setup a DDNS account. After that then you can visit your camera system via http(s)://yourddns.someddnsdomain.com(and probably port number)

Router & extended wifi looks good. So the only thing left is:

What's your NVR system / security camera brand /model? and the link to your mobile app.

But yor NVR system has told you it has a http video interface on port 5000 for PC and port 5001 for mobile device.

You have to setup port forwarding on Belkin router to forward TCP port 5000 to 192.168.1.101 and TCP port 5001 to 192.168.1.101

You probably don't even need an app.

All you need is open any browser and visit http://192.168.1.101:5000 on PC and http://192.168.1.101:5001 on your mobile phone on you LAN.

The reason vendor doing this is mobile phone has a smaller user interface.

If you constantly need to access your NVR/security camera on outside, you need to get a free DDNS service that will convert your router's public IP to a domain name.

Like the screenshot where it shows a DDNS button. Click that and setup a DDNS account. After that then you can visit your camera system via http(s)://yourddns.someddnsdomain.com(and probably port number)

i have a Zosi ZR08RN
Belking router? no, that was time ago when experimenting with the belking and the laptop to bridge stuff whatever in order to try...
remember you suggested me to purchase this extender (the tplink) and now we are working with that, so, only the alcatel wirless modem and the tp link extender
 

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Couple notes:

1. Make the wifi ssid the same on the TP link
2. What are the other areas of the TP link config? Network? Advanced?

3. Matter of preference, but I prefer static ip configs on devices like the TPlink and NVR. You can try to see on the main wifi unit if you can do a Static DHCP reservation, so you can leave DHCP on the clients, but when the main wifi hot spot see's the MAC from the devices, it will always assign the same IP.

This will matter more for the NVR, as it will possibly require some port forwarding to get to from outside your LAN.
but htere is a problem i have notice something, in the wifi network created by the extender, soyy is not gisele is Aurora, in the created by the extnder which is aurora_ext, if i rename to the same original network, then no device can connect to aurora, i receive no message but i suspect then it enter in conflict two networks with thr same name, thats why i didnt renamed again o the original wifi host network
 

mxnerd

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I'm the one suggesting purchasing TP-Link? :eek:

And you never mentioned you removed Belkin.

Sorry, I'm done.
 

FlyerX

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I'm the one suggesting purchasing TP-Link? :eek:

And you never mentioned you removed Belkin.

Sorry, I'm done.
sorry for confusions, in the post #21 i mentioned i already got the tp link repeater
belkin router was only for testing, it was not a real solution.
 

mxnerd

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OK, I was too dumb to read your extra long paragraph in your first post.

And there is nothing wrong about the TP-Link that ch33 suggested.

If you are using Alcatel, set port forwarding on it.

Regardless, I'm done. :)

On one one conversation probably better for the situation.
 
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