My school is considering a 'single platform campus'

stev0

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I just got an email from my advisor that had a copy of the letter he received from higher sources. Among other tech. upgrades that will be done this summer to campus there has been a taskforce assigned to the subject of a single platform campus, basically removing all machines that are currently here and either going mac or pc (the admin is leaning heavily towards pc, i would assume because of cost). All this has gotten the older teachers and a large portion of the students in a fuss, they don't want their beloved macs to be phased out!

Now maybe it's just me, my young rebellious nature :p, but I honestly don't see the need for a mac anymore. Anyone else in the graphic design industry seem to feel the same way? Anyone else go to a college that has gone to a 'single platform plan?'
 

notfred

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Moving every single computer on the campus to a single platform is retarded. They have probably 25 different majors and hundreds of different classes and they think one single OS is the best for all of them? Why not move to a "single textbook campus"? It'd make the bookstore so much more efficient.
 

tkdkid

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Yes, take away all macs, so that if students ever see a mac in their first job, they'll run away in terror.
 

stev0

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The macs on campus are mainly used by the graphic design/communications majors, and the programs installed on them are not mac specific (ie: photoshop/illustrator/ect..)

It's a smaller school and they really don't offer as many majors as you many think.
 

halik

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my school just bought a ton of brand new G5s, so i dont think they would be doing anything dumb like that....

Any university with an art program supports macs, as a matter of fact the U of M art school recommends that all art freshmen kids buy a powerbook
 

halik

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Originally posted by: stev0
The macs on campus are mainly used by the graphic design/communications majors, and the programs installed on them are not mac specific (ie: photoshop/illustrator/ect..)

It's a smaller school and they really don't offer as many majors as you many think.


actually the font and color managment on macs is far superior to anything available on pc. Hence the reason why over 90% of the industry uses em.


Also quarkxpress for windows is supposedly unstable and problematic, at least according to my stepbros wife (senior graphic designer)
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: halik
my school just bought a ton of brand new G5s, so i dont think they would be doing anything dumb like that....

Any university with an art program supports macs, as a matter of fact the U of M art school recommends that all art freshmen kids buy a powerbook

it's thinks like that (schools recommending that new students buy macs) that makes me want to curl up in the corner in cry. 5 years ago i could see why people thought the mac was better for graphic related tasks... but with the new pc's? puhleeeesee, they run circles around macs.

Minnesota State University Moorhead just got a lab full of dual G5 towers, 1.5gb ram, half a tb of storage, 22'' mitsu diamond displays... they are used for photoshop. and you can't save to the hdd's. lets get real!
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: stev0
The macs on campus are mainly used by the graphic design/communications majors, and the programs installed on them are not mac specific (ie: photoshop/illustrator/ect..)

It's a smaller school and they really don't offer as many majors as you many think.


actually the font and color managment on macs is far superior to anything available on pc. Hence the reason why over 90% of the industry uses em.


Also quarkxpress for windows is supposedly unstable and problematic, at least according to my stepbros wife (senior graphic designer)

InDesign ;) quark xpress is the dirtiest program i have ever used.
 

Ness

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In graphics, it is essential that people know how to use macs.

However, anyone who has worked with both macs and PCs will tell you in all honesty that macs are in no way or shape better for graphics than a windows based machine. Not only that, but all the hype about them being better is a complete falsehood. Macs are the most tempermental, finicky and annoying things to use, and there is NO BENEFIT to using graphics programs on a mac. I would go as far as to say they are WORSE with using graphics programs.

When someone who says a PC broke itself or screwed itself up, you roll your eyes, because you know it is something the user did every time. With a mac, it really can cause problems for itself... mostly due to the way it reads and ejects media.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: halik
Also quarkxpress for windows is supposedly unstable and problematic, at least according to my stepbros wife (senior graphic designer)

MORE unstable and problematic than the Mac version? That is quite an accomplishment!

<- Card-carrying Quark hater
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: Ness
In graphics, it is essential that people know how to use macs.

However, anyone who has worked with both macs and PCs will tell you in all honesty that macs are in no way or shape better for graphics than a windows based machine. Not only that, but all the hype about them being better is a complete falsehood. Macs are the most tempermental, finicky and annoying things to use, and there is NO BENEFIT to using graphics programs on a mac. I would go as far as to say they are WORSE with using graphics programs.

When someone who says a PC broke itself or screwed itself up, you roll your eyes, because you know it is something the user did every time. With a mac, it really can cause problems for itself... mostly due to the way it reads and ejects media.

It's funny how all the people saying "PCs are jsut as good as macs for graphics!" aren't graphics people.

Would you listen to an art major telling you that Dell makes better webservers than IBM does?
 

Ness

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Ness
In graphics, it is essential that people know how to use macs.

However, anyone who has worked with both macs and PCs will tell you in all honesty that macs are in no way or shape better for graphics than a windows based machine. Not only that, but all the hype about them being better is a complete falsehood. Macs are the most tempermental, finicky and annoying things to use, and there is NO BENEFIT to using graphics programs on a mac. I would go as far as to say they are WORSE with using graphics programs.

When someone who says a PC broke itself or screwed itself up, you roll your eyes, because you know it is something the user did every time. With a mac, it really can cause problems for itself... mostly due to the way it reads and ejects media.

It's funny how all the people saying "PCs are jsut as good as macs for graphics!" aren't graphics people.

Would you listen to an art major telling you that Dell makes better webservers than IBM does?

Umm... I am a graphics person.

Whaddup.

But like I said, it's crucial that graphics students learn the mac, because not all companies share the same opinion as me.
 

ViRGE

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You'll pull my PowerBook from my cold, dead hands.:p
 

kyparrish

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i'm a PC user, but when I studied music in college, it made all the sense in the world for our music composition classes and computer music technology classes to be based around Mac software, because in the real world, Macs are where it's at as far as music goes
 

Xionide

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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: stev0
The macs on campus are mainly used by the graphic design/communications majors, and the programs installed on them are not mac specific (ie: photoshop/illustrator/ect..)

It's a smaller school and they really don't offer as many majors as you many think.


actually the font and color managment on macs is far superior to anything available on pc. Hence the reason why over 90% of the industry uses em.


Also quarkxpress for windows is supposedly unstable and problematic, at least according to my stepbros wife (senior graphic designer)

/propaganda