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My rig broke, what should I replace it with?

coolred

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I had an Asus PC-DL, dual 1.6 Xeons OC'd to a max of 3.4Ghz, stable at 3.2, ran it at 3.0Ghz though most of the time. Well the board bit the dust, southbridge is crazy overheating even when the rig is off. I am thinking I can probablly get the board RMA'd. But I don't want to wait that long, I am incthing for something new, and I never really got the thing fully stable like I like it. It would prime forever at the speeds I listed. But then just randomly on rare occasions it would freeze or reboot. I think it was probablly cause the board wasn't giving enough juice to the memory.


Anyways, the rest of my stuff I will probablly keep sinc eobviously the optical and hard drives and sound car and whatnot can be reused. The video card I have not decided on yet. Its and AGP 6600GT. I am just wondering if its wise to stick with AGP, since PCI express is the furture. Although probablly the next time I upgrade, i will upgrade everything, so it probablly won't make a differance. I also know there is a MB or 2 that have both AGP and PCI-E. And while I don't have to, I would prefer to buy from Microcenter They are local, so no waiting for shipping, and I work for a sister company of them, so I get a 25% discount. But if its still cheaper after shipping and everything, then I can definately buy online. Or if there is just nothing at MC worth a darn.


So, I am undecided on pretty much everything. I prefer AMD, but will not turn down intel if it is bets for me. I know my current rig is a dually, but I went that way cause it was cheap. I don't need a dually or dual core, but they are nice, so maybe.

Basically I do normal day to day stuff, web browsing, email, Mp3's, word processing, stuff like that. I do game, but nto very much, right now I am playing AOE3, and black and white 2. The last game I played prior to those was probablly like Star wars Jedi Outcast or something, so like I said, I am not a huge gamer, but it would be nice to be able to play the occasional game if I wanted to. I do some video encoding as well, more then I game, but still not a ton. I may eventually use the rig for HTPC tasks as well.


Not sure what else to say,just looking for some opinions on whats hot to get right now. Mainly looking at motherboard/CPU's and maybe video cards. Need any more info just ask. Going to eat dinner, be back soon.
 

coolred

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Yes budget does help doesn't it. I wish I had one, lol. I don't want to spend a ton, But I don't want to get crap cause I didn't spend enough. Its prolly gonna go on credit since I don't have enough on hand. If I go with microcenter, they currently have a deal on thier credit card where you get 100 bucks back in rewards if you spedn 400 plus. So I would say 400 would be my minimum if I go there. But I don't really know. Just let me know what you think. I mean obviously I am not gonna be spedning 1000 dollars since its not gonna be used for anything heavy like a ton of gaming or whatever. But I have not set a top budget yet.

Just for the heck of it lets say 300-600. I will listen to any offers you have for me, and then decide what I think I should spend. Thanks
 

Atheus

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I assume you want a dualie, and you say you prefer AMD, so get dual-core opterons. They're pretty awesome.
 

xanis

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Alright, so the righ should cost less than $1000, correct? Alright here it goes:

Asus A8N-E Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+
2GB Corsair ValueSelect
250GB Seagate Barracuda
Apollo 6600GT
 

coolred

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Originally posted by: coolred
So, I am undecided on pretty much everything. I prefer AMD, but will not turn down intel if it is bets for me. I know my current rig is a dually, but I went that way cause it was cheap. I don't need a dually or dual core, but they are nice, so maybe.



Your assumption would be wrong, LOL. Like I said, I went with the dually rig since I got the chips for 100 bucks and the board for like 150. And I knew the chips to be good overclockers. And I wanted to try a dually system to see what it was like. I admit it was nice, and especially goo while overclocking. But since I don't game much, encode only on occasion and the most of my multitasking is maybe web browsing and listening to mp3's, I don't need a dually rig, but like I said, they are nice.
 

coolred

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Originally posted by: Xanis
Alright, so the righ should cost less than $1000, correct? Alright here it goes:

Asus A8N-E Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+
2GB Corsair ValueSelect
250GB Seagate Barracuda
Apollo 6600GT

Pretty much only need motherboard, cpu and maybe video card. Already got some ram and plenty of hard drives. And I am just not sure if I need the dual core or not. I want it, but I am just not sure if I benefit enough from it to justify paying for it.
 

coolred

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Or maybe, and this is a big maybe. I have another system. Its a biostar 200n SFF. It has an Athlon XP 2100+, 2x256MB ram, currently using the onboard video. Maybe I could put my 6600GT in that system and use it to play my current computer games. I think it will be a while before I find a new PC game I want. That system meets the minimum requirments of the games I am playing, but not sure how well it will handle the games.

Then maybe I could get away with like a radeon express 200 or the new nvidia 6150/6100 onboard video boards. I kinda like the features on those 6150/430 boards. They would make good htpc boards.
 

eXx08

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Hey is that Micro Center the one in Cinncinati? It's like 1 minet from where my dad works.
 

xanis

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Hmm...well in this case I would say go for the dual-core. It sounds like deep down, you really want it, and if you're paying money you might as well getit for yourself.
 

coolred

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Well I want it because its cool, and it does have some advantages. But if I will actually put it to good use is another question
 

coolred

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I had considered that, but since I only need the motherboard/cpu and maybe video card, then I am just not sure its worth getting a whole computer
 

Somniferum

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I was in a similar position -- needed to replace CPU and mobo -- and I went with the ASRock 939Dual-SATA2, which has the advantage of supporting both AGP and PCI-E. So you could keep your current vid card, and upgrade to PCI-E later on. The board is around 70 bucks, and it supports either single- or dual-core A64 CPUs. I'm happy with it.
 

coolred

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Yeah, I'm just not sure if I will upgrade the video card before I upgrade the other stuff again
 

Somniferum

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Yeah but it doesn't hurt to have the option -- if you look at the reviews, the board performs just as good as a pure AGP board. And you get to move up to 939 without having to upgrade the vid card.
 

Markfw

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I would MSI NEO2, keep your vid card, get an X2 3800 for for run (and you are used to the responsiveness), so thats $400 about. Also you like OC'ing, so you could do that also. That ASRock board is a bad OC'er, at least mine is. 1.4v ccore max ?? I have it, I can only get my X2 3800 to 2400 !
 

Somniferum

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
That ASRock board is a bad OC'er, at least mine is. 1.4v ccore max ??

Actually it will do 1.45v. Still not great, but it does give you a little headroom.

I have mine OC'd (see sig) but you are right, it's not a great board for hardcore OC'ing. Good enough to suit my more moderate OC'ing tastes though.
 

coolred

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Well also, I can't get that board from microcenter. Like I said, I don't have to buy there, but I would prefer to so that I don't have to wait for shipping, plus I get a 25% discount. They have the 3800+ X2 for 370.00, so I can get it for like 280.00, way cheaper then anywhere else. But if you guys are gonna talk me into the X2, then I don't want to skimp on the board.
 

OdiN

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hey coolred - trust me on this...you WANT a dual system. Because if you go back to a single CPU system after using a dual system....it just isn't the same computing experience and you will not get that "creamy smoothness" that dual CPU systems offer.

I used to run dual P3 700's OC'd to 933MHz. When I upgraded I moved to Dual AthlonMP 2100's. When I upgraded from that I put in a 2.4GHz P4 OC'd to 3.4GHz...while fast the P4 system just wasn't as smooth as my other dual setups and I am now back to an Athlon X2 4400+.
 

coolred

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Fine, you talked me into the X2, although, I will likely get the cheap one, the 3800+ is the low end dual core one right?

Now what motherboard should I pair it with?