My prediction of the way we'll find out that God does indeed exist.

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jonks

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Originally posted by: artikk
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: whylaff
Wait, who created the creator?

arcadio

and who created arcadio?

Harcadio the Magnificent, of course. duh.

Arcadio has a kid named Rcadio who subs in an apostophe for words beginning with the letter A as his father did with H's in honor of his creator. After his great, great, great, great grandson, O, is born, the line will be complete and earth will splode per the Codex of Athlum.

Note, his great great grandson, Dio, will reinvent rock as we know it.
 

Sea Moose

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: artikk
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: whylaff
Wait, who created the creator?

arcadio

and who created arcadio?

Harcadio the Magnificent, of course. duh.

Arcadio has a kid named Rcadio who subs in an apostophe for words beginning with the letter A as his father did with H's in honor of his creator. After his great, great, great, great grandson, O, is born, the line will be complete and earth will splode per the Codex of Athlum.

Note, his great great grandson, Dio, will reinvent rock as we know it.

wow, i cant understand this at 2am

i am going to bed
 

mjrpes3

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Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: mjrpes3
Certainly possible... a creator can create anything, good or bad. It does raise some interesting questions about the nature of the creator and his experiment...

  1. The creator is not really that intelligent, and failed to realize his experiment would bring about sentient beings who would experienced pain/suffering.
  2. The creator knew sentient beings would come about, but thinks it's just neurons firing in a skull... nothing is really "experiencing" the pain and suffering so there is no guilt.
  3. The creator actually enjoys watching us writhe in pain because it makes the experiment awesome to watch. Like SimCity... watch what happens when I press the huge disaster button.
  4. The creator knew sentient beings would come about and that they would experience pain/suffering, but the experiment was deemed too important not to run and unfortunately he couldn't intervene personally in the world to stop the pain/suffering because that would taint the results.

There might be some things we don't understand. Just keep in mind that we don't know all. We cannot know all. We think we know everything about our Universe just because our brains are capable of rational thought, but there might be more to this Universe than what our brains can understand.

We don't know all there is to know.

Of course. Yet although we cannot know anything outside of this world, we can eliminate certain scenarios due to logical absurdity (contradiction).

For example, it is absurd to posit a sentient creator of intelligence similar to us, who is both empathetic and able to intervene in world events, yet allows needless suffering and massive acts of evil like the holocaust. Any creator who was empathetic and could intervene, would have intervened. Either there is no creator, the creator is not empathetic, or the creator cannot intervene (or at least not so directly).
 

Madwand1

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Originally posted by: Arcadio
I've always thought that one day we'll discover unmistakable proof of the existence of God, or an Intelligent Designer. I think the way it will occur is very similar to the way a computer programmer inserts an "Easter Egg" into a program, in such a way that it is not supposed to be seen, but that will be found if you look carefully.

So you'd reduce God and faith to a "proof" via Easter eggs? If God wished the masses to have such "proof", they obviously would, as an article of faith. But why would the highest of the high have any need for such trivialization, and especially a technological materialization of "proof"? In my view, your claim shows a lot about yourself and your inclinations, but little about God and faith.

Faith is individual and personal, and is not for everyone at a given time. If you have found some for yourself, great -- don't trivialize it, and don't expect or look for a cheap "proof" for the masses.
 

BassBomb

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Humans make easter eggs in things, why would that mean an intelligent creater would do that too?
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: BassBomb
Humans make easter eggs in things, why would that mean an intelligent creater would do that too?

because he made us in his image. or, we're the easter egg and don't know the game we're in.
 

glugglug

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Just because something distant in the universe is immediately recognizable to our society doesn't prove it was put there by God. Just read "Chariots of the Gods", which I think the Stargate mythology is probably based on. It basically suggests that humans were brought to this planet by aliens approximately 10,000 years ago, and that the "gods" in the various polytheistic cultures of the ancient Greeks, Egyptians, & others were actually the aliens using technology that the people didn't understand. If humans were brought here from another part of the universe, that would explain things recognizable to us being there.
 

Zolty

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You can't prove nor disprove god's existence, the absence of evidence is not evidence against.
 

So

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Originally posted by: Zolty
You can't prove nor disprove god's existence, the absence of evidence is not evidence against.

Just like the absence of evidence for superman's existence is not evidence against. :confused:
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: Zolty
You can't prove nor disprove god's existence, the absence of evidence is not evidence against.

Just like the absence of evidence for superman's existence is not evidence against. :confused:

Actually we have a tremendous amount of evidence regarding the provenance of Superman.

Perhaps you'd be more on point referring to Aquaman, that shady fuck.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Zolty
You can't prove nor disprove god's existence, the absence of evidence is not evidence against.

How about fire-breathing transsexual gelatinous cubes the size of Montana?
Can you prove they don't exist?
Do you see the flaw in your argument?
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Arcadio
I've always thought that one day we'll discover unmistakable proof of the existence of God, or an Intelligent Designer. I think the way it will occur is very similar to the way a computer programmer inserts an "Easter Egg" into a program, in such a way that it is not supposed to be seen, but that will be found if you look carefully.

There are two kinds of Easter Eggs that might exist in our Universe. The first kind would be buried deep inside subatomic particles. Now, I cannot even imagine the structure of such an Easter Egg. But as soon as our scientists look deep enough into the structure of subatomic particles, it will become clear that there is something there that was placed on purpose, and that defies the laws of nature and/or probability. I'm not talking about an Easter Egg that could be explained by probability (such as the structure of DNA). I'm talking about an Easter Egg that would unmistakable recognized as being created by an Intelligent Designer.

The second kind of Easter Egg would be in the far reaches of deep space. Some day, astronomers will discover a message written in deep space that would be identified as being created by an Intelligent Designer. Now, this message (I cannot speculate about its structure or what it's made of) must be directly recognizable by our civilization. It cannot be an abstract message that could've been written by an alien civilization. Scientists will eventually determine that such a message was written by the designer of the Universe.

Of course, there will always be skeptical scientists that will say that such Easter Eggs were created by natural processes.

I wonder what the Easter Egg message will say....

what`s the name of that drug you are taking??
 

So

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Arcadio
I've always thought that one day we'll discover unmistakable proof of the existence of God, or an Intelligent Designer. I think the way it will occur is very similar to the way a computer programmer inserts an "Easter Egg" into a program, in such a way that it is not supposed to be seen, but that will be found if you look carefully.

There are two kinds of Easter Eggs that might exist in our Universe. The first kind would be buried deep inside subatomic particles. Now, I cannot even imagine the structure of such an Easter Egg. But as soon as our scientists look deep enough into the structure of subatomic particles, it will become clear that there is something there that was placed on purpose, and that defies the laws of nature and/or probability. I'm not talking about an Easter Egg that could be explained by probability (such as the structure of DNA). I'm talking about an Easter Egg that would unmistakable recognized as being created by an Intelligent Designer.

The second kind of Easter Egg would be in the far reaches of deep space. Some day, astronomers will discover a message written in deep space that would be identified as being created by an Intelligent Designer. Now, this message (I cannot speculate about its structure or what it's made of) must be directly recognizable by our civilization. It cannot be an abstract message that could've been written by an alien civilization. Scientists will eventually determine that such a message was written by the designer of the Universe.

Of course, there will always be skeptical scientists that will say that such Easter Eggs were created by natural processes.

I wonder what the Easter Egg message will say....

what`s the name of that drug you are taking??

I'd say he's taking a 'cocktail' of drugs, but upon further consideration, I think it's more like a soup bowl full.