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Jhhnn

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lol They sure did - while breathlessly discussing whether this particular piece of bullshit would be the one to destroy Trump's political viability. The mainstream media, like the rest of the Democrat Party, was totally outsmarted by Cheeto Jesus. I'm not saying that to gloat as he's obviously a very smart man and there's no shame in being outsmarted by a smarter person. But it's still amusing that even in defeat, you guys still aren't capable of understanding what happened.

I understand what happened. Trump is the greatest con artist who ever lived. That will only become more apparent to anybody willing to see it as this unfolds. The Repub base, of course, has been getting conned for over 20 years with one flimflam or another, all of them riding on Repubs' core ideology of trickle down economics. Once conned, they stay conned, blind stubbornness being the dark side of loyalty. Discussion of the whole "drain the swamp!" song & dance is tribute to that.
 

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lol You still don't get it. As long as you feel that Trump is an idiot, you're going to be defeated again in 2020. Even if you all buy smaritification glasses from Ricky Perry.

He was a sincere champion of the birther cause, didn't realize that he had to staff an entire wing of the White House and ruled out John Bolton for a position because of his mustache. Sorry, but if you think Trump is a Machiavellian genius who knowingly played everyone like a fiddle, you're mistaken.

That's not to say that Trump hasn't done some things on purpose, but his strategy is more the product of his personality: shoot from the hip, focus on appearance and do whatever calls more attention to himself. I don't think a lot of people, whether they were in the media, the Democrats or the voter base, were prepared to deal with someone who really is all surface and no substance.
 

agent00f

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Those conservatives sure are dumb. That must be how they won the highest office with less votes.

Surely dumb luck won't strike again after Trump funnels that trillion dollar handout to rust belt rednecks. Gosh they are so dumb they don't know what's good for them.
 

Jhhnn

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Those conservatives sure are dumb. That must be how they won the highest office with less votes.

Surely dumb luck won't strike again after Trump funnels that trillion dollar handout to rust belt rednecks. Gosh they are so dumb they don't know what's good for them.

How do you suppose he'll do that? Bring back millions of manufacturing jobs? There's nothing in it for the financial elite so it obviously won't happen..

Build a wall & go nuts with deportations? The only satisfaction in that is knowing that somebody else is getting screwed harder than you are. The whole idea is a job killer because it's a demand killer.

Military spending? Unless we take it to Reaganesque levels it's a damned ineffective way to stimulate the economy. The money flies straight from there into the hands of the financial elite, every time.
 

agent00f

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How do you suppose he'll do that? Bring back millions of manufacturing jobs? There's nothing in it for the financial elite so it obviously won't happen..

Build a wall & go nuts with deportations? The only satisfaction in that is knowing that somebody else is getting screwed harder than you are. The whole idea is a job killer because it's a demand killer.

Military spending? Unless we take it to Reaganesque levels it's a damned ineffective way to stimulate the economy. The money flies straight from there into the hands of the financial elite, every time.

Pretty obvious they don't give a shit as long as they get theirs somehow, keeping minorities under them is certainly one way promised.

The crux of the issue here is that many liberals still fundamentally assume everyone values virtue (eg truth, integrity, responsibility like for the future), when all evidence points otherwise.
 
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Jhhnn

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He was a sincere champion of the birther cause, didn't realize that he had to staff an entire wing of the White House and ruled out John Bolton for a position because of his mustache. Sorry, but if you think Trump is a Machiavellian genius who knowingly played everyone like a fiddle, you're mistaken.

That's not to say that Trump hasn't done some things on purpose, but his strategy is more the product of his personality: shoot from the hip, focus on appearance and do whatever calls more attention to himself. I don't think a lot of people, whether they were in the media, the Democrats or the voter base, were prepared to deal with someone who really is all surface and no substance.

You're not getting it. Being a con artist is a gift, like being a musical genius. It's some kind of instinct. Trump's ability to do that is only loosely connected to any other judgements he might make. He's a beguiler.
 

Jhhnn

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Pretty obvious they don't give a shit as long as they get theirs somehow, keeping minorities under them is certainly one way promised.

The crux of the issue here is that many liberals still fundamentally assume everyone values virtue (eg truth, integrity, responsibility like for the future), when all evidence points otherwise.

My point is that they won't get anything that will help sustain them & their families. Trump isn't here to save them, at all, nor will he. The only thing that can do that is a fundamental shift in attitude.
 

ivwshane

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My point is that they won't get anything that will help sustain them & their families. Trump isn't here to save them, at all, nor will he. The only thing that can do that is a fundamental shift in attitude.

Have you seen the posts trump supporters make? They can and do justify anything he does or say, a fundamental shift in attitude? Lol! They've been shifting for about a year now.
 

agent00f

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My point is that they won't get anything that will help sustain them & their families. Trump isn't here to save them, at all, nor will he. The only thing that can do that is a fundamental shift in attitude.

I imagine this is how liberals end up negotiate buying a car: they research all the facts and conclude it's worth $10k and offers that fair price. But the used car saleman says it's got the valuable $5k undercoating on it he can't take off and 5 mouths to feed at home, so the centrists will meet him in the middle at 13 just to get a deal done. Only there's those 5k aftermarket wheels on there too so we'll tack on another 1 or 2k at most to keep everyone happy.

Just the same they've paying much heed to that Jesus dog and pony show the christian right put on. Oh they're such naive and easily manipulated souls, and if we only help them out with even more they might not sell you down the river for an extra nickel. Turns out they never gave a shit about that undercoating if there was ever any in the first place any more than Jesus, it was just a convenient negotiating strategy to befuddle them dumbass libtards. They've certainly got this far with hardly a degree yet 72k annual income by segregating brownie hands from their piece of the pie, and they'll only get some more with that trillion dollar handout plan.
 

IGBT

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For what?? What's she guilty of?? Only the guilty need "pardons".
 

Jhhnn

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I imagine this is how liberals end up negotiate buying a car: they research all the facts and conclude it's worth $10k and offers that fair price. But the used car saleman says it's got the valuable $5k undercoating on it he can't take off and 5 mouths to feed at home, so the centrists will meet him in the middle at 13 just to get a deal done. Only there's those 5k aftermarket wheels on there too so we'll tack on another 1 or 2k at most to keep everyone happy.

Just the same they've paying much heed to that Jesus dog and pony show the christian right put on. Oh they're such naive and easily manipulated souls, and if we only help them out with even more they might not sell you down the river for an extra nickel. Turns out they never gave a shit about that undercoating if there was ever any in the first place any more than Jesus, it was just a convenient negotiating strategy to befuddle them dumbass libtards. They've certainly got this far with hardly a degree yet 72k annual income by segregating brownie hands from their piece of the pie, and they'll only get some more with that trillion dollar handout plan.

WTF was that supposed to be about?

I'll grant that the Repub leadership is utterly insincere. They tell voters it's about values, guns, abortion, race, immigration, Terrarism & anything else to get them just irrational enough to vote for the one true agenda of the Repub Party- Ruthless top down economic class warfare, aka trickle down economics. When govt gets in the way, as it should, their answer is to cripple the govt so that it can't get in the way & they've cultivated the kinds of public attitudes enabling that for a very long time.

So now they'll have their way with all of us & will attempt structural changes so that we'll never get the boot off our necks. That's what destroying federal agencies is all about.
 

agent00f

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WTF was that supposed to be about?

I'll grant that the Repub leadership is utterly insincere. They tell voters it's about values, guns, abortion, race, immigration, Terrarism & anything else to get them just irrational enough to vote for the one true agenda of the Repub Party- Ruthless top down economic class warfare, aka trickle down economics. When govt gets in the way, as it should, their answer is to cripple the govt so that it can't get in the way & they've cultivated the kinds of public attitudes enabling that for a very long time.

So now they'll have their way with all of us & will attempt structural changes so that we'll never get the boot off our necks. That's what destroying federal agencies is all about.

I suppose it was about the horse who only ever assumed his fellow animals were virtuous (but naive, lol) as he was sent to the glue factory.

Let's tell another revealing story, this time about a degenerate who considered latino women to be Ms. housekeeping. Of course a female hispanic analyst on the news was understandably upset about this, but his fellow degenerates were excited about a leader who projected their values, that these sjw PC cucks were just throwing their hissy fit instead of telling it like is. Boy were they bamboozled about what their guy represents.