My prediction: Obama will issue a blanket pardon for Hillary

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Kazukian

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The stakes are too great for him not to issue one, or for her to not accept one.
 
pauldun170

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In order for someone to be pardoned they need to have committed a crime.
No need to pardon her.

Even if they did, the GOP would just continue to do its quarterly "Investigation" to keep the base happy.
They would probably launch an "investigation" into Obama's pardon
 
pcgeek11

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I wouldn't mind so much if he were required to spell out the specific crime(s) and she would have to acknowledge the crime(s).
 
Kazukian

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It's an interesting concept, he can issue a blanket pardon, it's been done before.

If she were to accept a pardon, it is considered, legally an admission of guilt. She could just say, "Yes, I screwed up with the email server" and in fact, she already has. It would just be a formal recognition of the mess, and put everything behind her.

Her risk is pretty significant, if Trump's admin has some issues, and we all know there will be issues, a dog and pony show with a special prosecutor going after Hillary will burn up countless news cycles and divert attention.
 
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Kazukian said:
The stakes are too great for him not to issue one, or for her to not accept one.
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My prediction is he won't because there's no crime. If Trump did try to go after Clinton it would probably destroy his administration.
 
JimKiler

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Kazukian said:
It's an interesting concept, he can issue a blanket pardon, it's been done before.

If she were to accept a pardon, it is considered, legally an admission of guilt. She could just say, "Yes, I screwed up with the email server" and in fact, she already has. It would just be a formal recognition of the mess, and put everything behind her.

Her risk is pretty significant, if Trump's admin has some issues, and we all know there will be issues, a dog and pony show with a special prosecutor going after Hillary will burn up countless news cycles and divert attention.
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Is that server the only reason she would be prosecuted? Don't flame me for my newbian question.
 
JimKiler

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pauldun170 said:
In order for someone to be pardoned they need to have committed a crime.
No need to pardon her.

Even if they did, the GOP would just continue to do its quarterly "Investigation" to keep the base happy.
They would probably launch an "investigation" into Obama's pardon
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Don't they also have to be convicted of a crime in order to receive a pardon?
 
Sheik Yerbouti

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Kazukian said:
It's an interesting concept, he can issue a blanket pardon, it's been done before.

If she were to accept a pardon, it is considered, legally an admission of guilt. She could just say, "Yes, I screwed up with the email server" and in fact, she already has. It would just be a formal recognition of the mess, and put everything behind her.

Her risk is pretty significant, if Trump's admin has some issues, and we all know there will be issues, a dog and pony show with a special prosecutor going after Hillary will burn up countless news cycles and divert attention.
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you seem even more concerned now.
 
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fskimospy

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Kazukian said:
I'm not saying she's guilty of a crime.
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Well then there's nothing to pardon. I sincerely doubt she would accept a pardon even if it was offered as that would be tantamount to acknowledging guilt.

She has little to fear from Trump. If he did try to force the DOJ to prosecute his political enemies he would run into such a buzzsaw of opposition from every corner that he would either run away VERY quickly or watch it destroy his administration. I imagine Clinton would in some ways welcome that as it would be some pretty sweet revenge.
 
Kazukian

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fskimospy said:
Well then there's nothing to pardon. I sincerely doubt she would accept a pardon even if it was offered as that would be tantamount to acknowledging guilt.

She has little to fear from Trump. If he did try to force the DOJ to prosecute his political enemies he would run into such a buzzsaw of opposition from every corner that he would either run away VERY quickly or watch it destroy his administration. I imagine Clinton would in some ways welcome that as it would be some pretty sweet revenge.
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You may well be correct, we'll know fairly soon.
 
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2000 messages in less than 5 months. You are averaging 14 posts a day.

Unfortunately, the people who really shouldn't be are often the most vocal. Every post you make is dumber than the last.

"The stakes are too great for him not to issue one, or for her to not accept one."
"I'm not saying she's guilty of a crime."

Funny how Trump supporters blame the DNC for Trump being elected. No, its people like you who post nonsense with no factual basis, but any kind of sensational headline that be can latched on to and you are rounding the wagons to circle jerk. Can you show one of the last 100 posts you made where you actually added something that could be discussed that anyone in this reality can respond to? Or is it all 911 conspiracy theories and garbage posts?
 
Kazukian

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Lash444 said:
2000 messages in less than 5 months. You are averaging 14 posts a day.

Unfortunately, the people who really shouldn't be are often the most vocal. Every post you make is dumber than the last.

"The stakes are too great for him not to issue one, or for her to not accept one."
"I'm not saying she's guilty of a crime."

Funny how Trump supporters blame the DNC for Trump being elected. No, its people like you who post nonsense with no factual basis, but any kind of sensational headline that be can latched on to and you are rounding the wagons to circle jerk. Can you show one of the last 100 posts you made where you actually added something that could be discussed that anyone in this reality can respond to? Or is it all 911 conspiracy theories and garbage posts?
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My Obama Podcast post was good, I listened to the whole hour, it was a great podcast. Obama is a thoughtful, intelligent president, reminds me of a more savvy Jimmy Carter.

If he grants her a pardon, it takes a lot of potential BS and wasted tax dollars off the table.
 
theeedude

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He won't. But Trump will issue a blanket pardon for everyone he knows when he leaves, otherwise there won't be enough room in American prisons to house all the crooks.
 
Jaskalas

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If there is any notion of pardons it'd be based on corruption and bribery at the State Department, as revealed by Podesta's emails.
The classified information, if handled like Petraeus, would be the least of her criminality.
 
1sikbITCH

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Trolling fail. Pardoning someone who hasn't been convicted is like trying to issue a divorce to someone who has never been married. It's not even a conversation.
 
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Jaskalas said:
If there is any notion of pardons it'd be based on corruption and bribery at the State Department, as revealed by Podesta's emails.
The classified information, if handled like Petraeus, would be the least of her criminality.
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Please. At this point, every one of those emails have been gone over with a fine toothed comb by Repub operatives. I wouldn't expect anything less. It's not like they'd hold back, either.

That rules out the scurrilous innuendo you so blithely referenced.
 
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