My Prediction for the 2010 elections: The democrats wil surprise you

rudder

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Americans cannot see the big picture. So I predict come November that many of these democrats who have been fearing for their lives will actually get a lot of votes. obama has proven to a political machine... and when he has $350 billion to buy votes for the dems in danger... republicans don't stand a chance.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/67130

So we have had the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 in effect since Feb 2009 and only 50% has been spent. A large chunk of the remaining money is to be spent by September 2010. Yep, those Americans and their tunnel vision.

obama should open up a school for politicians. Even though the unemployment rate has not moved (if you factor out census jobs it moved the other way)... the american public will see good things going on locally by November 2010 (provided they live in a district where their congressman are up for relection)... and probably ensure a number of incumbents stay in office.
 

cubby1223

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hehehe

Obama's magic is gone. The BP oil spill, doesn't matter who you choose to blame, I think has finally shown to enough that the federal government is not capable of solving all the world's problems. Obama's 2008 campaign I would liken to Homer Simpson's campaign for sanitation commissioner The Garbage Man Can = Yes We Can.

And come November when unemployment is likely still hovering between 9 & 10 percent, and they see government money being given to a "chosen" few while he still has nothing... Sure a large chunk has not been spent yet, but where exactly are they going to spend it?
 

theeedude

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Republicans have yet to present their plan for America. I don't know what they are waiting for. Simply saying they don't like Obama's is not going to cut it, not when they have demonstrated they cannot govern when given opportunity. They have to show there is some change in their party from the last time they were in charge and fvcked it all up.
 

cubby1223

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Republicans have yet to present their plan for America. I don't know what they are waiting for. Simply saying they don't like Obama's is not going to cut it, not when they have demonstrated they cannot govern when given opportunity. They have to show there is some change in their party from the last time they were in charge and fvcked it all up.

ahahahahaha!!!!

You would refuse to vote Republican even if that were the lone option on the ballet. You'd boycott the vote! You'd write in someone just out of spite.

If you haven't figured out their plan yet, you must be watching MSNBC and reading the Daily Kos too much, or something along those lines.

I mean, seriously, what's the Dems plan, spend what we don't have and promise what we can't deliver? You see what's going on in Greece and now in Spain? Like, if the Republican's plan were just to oppose Obama it would be more along the lines of spending only what we have and promising only what we can deliver. Sounds reasonable to me!

Let's have split control of the federal government and see where that takes us.
 

Jhhnn

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You're whistlin' in the dark, cubby, and rudder's post drips with false perception, deliberately planted.

Unemployment hasn't moved? Yeh, well, it hasn't gone up, either and would likely be a lot higher w/o the hated bank bailout and the stimulus money, let alone what would happen if the slash and burn repubs had their way with the federal budget. Spending was good, very good, when they were running things, particularly wrt elective wars and massive military pork, but now it's bad, very bad, mmkay?

The gulf oil spill? Only the lamest denialists on the right have forgotten their former battle cry- "Drill, Baby, Drill!" along with a few of their other formerly fave buzz words and catch phrases... Deregulated Banking! Free Market! World Economy! Free, Freedom, and Liberty! and my absolute fave- Ownership Society! made possible by Cutting Red Tape!...

Only the lamest fanbois have forgotten how we got here... Dems need only mock Repubs with their own words to remind the electorate...

Kinda sounds like you're advocating socialist govt giveaways there. cubby, with that last sentence...
 

lothar

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Both Harry Reid and Barbara Boxer are laughing all the way to the bank.
 

irishScott

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Lesser of two evils, you might be right to a degree; but while Obama has yet to reach Bush levels a good chunk of his magic is gone. He's a bureaucrat through and through. His lack of productive action and nothing-but-talk policies are showing more and more with each passing day.

Not that I trust the Republicans, but the Democrats haven't proven themselves any better, and to a point I prefer Republican ideals. Note "prefer" != "like".
 

Danube

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So we have had the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 in effect since Feb 2009 and only 50% has been spent. A large chunk of the remaining money is to be spent by September 2010. Yep, those Americans and their tunnel vision.


"Those Americans" understand the stimulus was a slush fund for Dem apparatchiks at the expense of Americas children. They know the bulk of it is being saved for election (because Rush told them so) instead of jobs now.

Your lost in the sauce
 

IndyColtsFan

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Sep 22, 2007
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Head, Tail, it doesn't matter -- two sides of the same coin that was just pulled out of a manure pile.
 

QuantumPion

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I wouldn't be surprised if democrats still made a good showing.

They do so by running as being more conservative than the republican candidates. But then obviously vote with the far-left liberal leadership in congress.
 

Tab

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My Prediction.

Obama wins POTUS, Republicans pick up a dozen seats or so. Small win for Republican, but not enough to accomplish anything extensive.
 

Rockinacoustic

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Democrats have yet to present their plan for America. I don't know what they are waiting for. Simply saying they don't like Bush is not going to cut it, not when they have demonstrated they cannot govern when given opportunity. They have to show there is some change in their party from the last time they were in charge and fvcked it all up.

Fixed it retro-active to 2008 for yah
 

Atreus21

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Aug 21, 2007
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As long as republicans break the filibuster-proof majority, I will be happy. The more gridlock, the better. That's regardless of party affiliation.
 

RedChief

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Republicans have yet to present their plan for America. I don't know what they are waiting for. Simply saying they don't like Obama's is not going to cut it, not when they have demonstrated they cannot govern when given opportunity. They have to show there is some change in their party from the last time they were in charge and fvcked it all up.

IIRC, the Contract With America was introduced only 6 weeks or so before the 94 elections.
 

CADsortaGUY

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There is no doubt that the R party will find a way to F up their election bids. Some are going to be doomed simply because the primary election picked the wrong candidate. Oh well, someday the R party will wake up.
 

spidey07

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Aug 4, 2000
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Notice Obama wasn't doing any campaigning or helping the dem candidates in trouble?

He's become the kiss of death for anybody running. If you align yourself with his failed policies and presidency you will lose.
 

werepossum

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As long as republicans break the filibuster-proof majority, I will be happy. The more gridlock, the better. That's regardless of party affiliation.

This, in spades. I don't think it's guaranteed though; most people don't follow politics at all, and the same Democrats who voted for the Obama agenda will be running to the right of the Republicans this fall. Add in the huge financial advantage of the Dems and the possible spoiling affect of Tea Party members running as independents and the Dems will be much harder to beat than most pundits are thinking.
 

woolfe9999

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I think the dems will get creamed in November, but not necessarily by enough to lose either or both houses. I'd be shocked if they lose fewer than 30 total seats, however.

- wolf
 

piasabird

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The main problem is not enough seats are up for grabs. I think all the seats should have 2 year terms so we could vote them all out at once depending on what the voters wanted to do. That way all the seats would come up for a vote all at once.
 

Danube

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I also wonder what the "October Surprise" will be this year. I haven't forgotten that Schumer was blamed by feds for causing the run on IndyMac bank (and he did so just a few weeks after Dem donors saw books). Dem do love a crisis - even if they have to cause it ..

Schumer Ripped IndyMac as Democratic Donors Probed Books


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122428567636046459.html
 

werepossum

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I think the dems will get creamed in November, but not necessarily by enough to lose either or both houses. I'd be shocked if they lose fewer than 30 total seats, however.

- wolf
If the Dems retain control of one or both chambers, can you really consider that getting creamed?
 

Fern

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My Prediction.

Obama wins POTUS, Republicans pick up a dozen seats or so. Small win for Republican, but not enough to accomplish anything extensive.

That's one helluva a prediction.

My prediction is that you're wrong, if only because Obama ain't running for POTUS on any 2010 ticket. He doesn't need to, he'll be President until at least 2012. He got a 4 year term like every other president.

Fern
 

woolfe9999

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If the Dems retain control of one or both chambers, can you really consider that getting creamed?

A 35 seat total loss, even if they narrowly retain both houses, is a pretty big drubbing in electoral terms. In political terms, it's still a moderately large drubbing, as the narrow margins will make it much harder for them to push anything through. Consider how it's been with healthcare and financial reform as it is. It will be much worse after November if they lose that many seats.

- wolf
 

Fern

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Americans cannot see the big picture. So I predict come November that many of these democrats who have been fearing for their lives will actually get a lot of votes. obama has proven to a political machine... and when he has $350 billion to buy votes for the dems in danger... republicans don't stand a chance.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/67130

So we have had the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 in effect since Feb 2009 and only 50% has been spent. A large chunk of the remaining money is to be spent by September 2010. Yep, those Americans and their tunnel vision.

obama should open up a school for politicians. Even though the unemployment rate has not moved (if you factor out census jobs it moved the other way)... the american public will see good things going on locally by November 2010 (provided they live in a district where their congressman are up for relection)... and probably ensure a number of incumbents stay in office.

I think you're wrong.

Very little of that stim money is going to any projects that can really be seen. I.e., no vote buying effect.

About the only thing we may be seeing is a little re-paving job here or there. That's more an annoyance than any thing else, I don't care how many "economic recovery" signs they put up.

The stim package was f'n joke of epic proportions.

Fern