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swtethan

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if you continue to wait for better stuff, you'll be waiting forever. stuff comes out all the time.
 

JPB

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Originally posted by: swtethan
if you continue to wait for better stuff, you'll be waiting forever. stuff comes out all the time.

I know what you mean. But im not really trying to wait on something better, cause there is excellent hardware out there right now.

However, the cpu I have now is ( to me ) outdated. Im highly interested in seeing the next line from AMD though. And hopefully they become competitve again.
 

deadseasquirrel

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Originally posted by: JPB
Originally posted by: PhoenixOrion
Oblivion indoor and outdoor with CPU running at 2.6ghz then OC card to 10% core and mem.

I can run the video at 10% over. But I highly doubt my cpu will go that far due to memory restrictions.

Run your memory with a divider. I think your mobo supports using dividers, though I've never used an AMD chipset. Keep your multi at 11x, change FSB to 236, and run your ram at 166mhz (a 5/6 divider), which, when overclocked, will only be 187mhz... which is actually UNDERclocked. This will try you for 2.6ghz and RAM won't limit you one bit.

Your resolution is just slightly less stressful than 1280x1024, and that resolution is one that often begins to show some considerable gains with faster processors (depending on the game). But I agree with lavaheadache... hold off on the flatform upgrade until you truly feel you *need* it. That might be at the time Crysis comes out.
 

JPB

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Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Originally posted by: JPB
Originally posted by: PhoenixOrion
Oblivion indoor and outdoor with CPU running at 2.6ghz then OC card to 10% core and mem.

I can run the video at 10% over. But I highly doubt my cpu will go that far due to memory restrictions.

Run your memory with a divider. I think your mobo supports using dividers, though I've never used an AMD chipset. Keep your multi at 11x, change FSB to 236, and run your ram at 166mhz (a 5/6 divider), which, when overclocked, will only be 187mhz... which is actually UNDERclocked. This will try you for 2.6ghz and RAM won't limit you one bit.

Your resolution is just slightly less stressful than 1280x1024, and that resolution is one that often begins to show some considerable gains with faster processors (depending on the game). But I agree with lavaheadache... hold off on the flatform upgrade until you truly feel you *need* it. That might be at the time Crysis comes out.

Thanks, Ive looked in the bios alot. I dont see where it is to change the fsb and the divider....can ya help me out a little further ?
 

deadseasquirrel

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Originally posted by: JPB
Thanks, Ive looked in the bios alot. I dont see where it is to change the fsb and the divider....can ya help me out a little further ?

Unfortunately, I have never used an AMD chipset, nor an Asus mobo, but this site has some info. Specifically, this screen. I'm just guessing, but it might be setting the Memclock Mode to LIMIT, then setting the memclock value to 166mhz (it doesn't appear that there is a divider selection on this board).

You should make a thread in the motherboard section of the forums and someone who has some experience with the board might be able to help more than I can. In addition to what I put in my previous post, you'll likely need to up the cpu voltage in order to get the chip stable at higher speeds. And drop your HT down to 4x.

Zebo's post is essentially the bible for oc'ing the A64.
 

JPB

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Ok, I tried the settings you suggested. And upon each boot, it said overclocking failed. So I set the fsb to 220 and it overclocked to 2.4 fine from 2.2......
 

Stumps

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nice benchmarks...but they don't seem all that much higher than most of us using X1950Pro's or XT's

I get 9200+ in 3dmark05 and 4990+ in 3dmark06 using an OC'd A64 and a stock X1950Pro.

It seems that your CPU is holding back that 8800.
 

deadseasquirrel

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Originally posted by: JPB
Ok, I tried the settings you suggested. And upon each boot, it said overclocking failed. So I set the fsb to 220 and it overclocked to 2.4 fine from 2.2......

Looks like we posted at the same time. Try the BIOS settings I linked to. If you simply set FSB to 220, then your ram is running 220 also, which many sticks can do (and even higher if you give it a little more voltage). So that's why it is failing higher than 220.

But, now that I know 220 is possible on your ram, I don't mind recommending you to drop your multi down to 10x and use 260 as FSB. But change those memory options so that your memory is at 166mhz. Once you multiply that with the 260mhz overclock, your memory will really be running at about 217mhz, which it has shown to do (though further stress testing is a good idea). At 10x * 260, your HT is still ok at 4x. Any higher on the FSB, and you'll want to drop it down to 3x.

Use Zebo's guide for isolating and consolidating. Try giving a tad bit more voltage to the processor, and turn off Cool&Quiet.
 

JPB

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Ok, Now can someone tell me how to remove the frame rate cap in games ?? Seems this card on the capped games stops at 60fps, and I know it can go alot higher than that. Any help on this matter is great appreciated. Once I figure this out, Ill bench each game accordingly.
 

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Originally posted by: JPB
Originally posted by: Extelleron
That 3D Mark score is pretty low, even for a single-core A64 system. With my Opteron 144 @ 2.4GHz, 2GB of RAM, and a stock 8800GTS I got a score of 6209 on Windows XP.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=1313064

Yes, it does seem low. However, you are overclocked from 1.8 to 2.4 on your cpu. I cannot really overclock my cpu due to memory restrictions.

If you take a look at my score in 3DMark06 from stock to overclock, the cpu score did not even raise one point. I know it really sucks. I need better memory because I know I can overclock this cpu...its being cooled with a Thermalright XP-90.

The 3500+ is 2.2GHz stock, and while my Opty has 1MB of L2 cache vs 512KB on yours that shouldn't make too much of a difference. So I don't see why there should be such a difference.. perhaps that 1GB of memory is what's really killing you.

 

JPB

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Well, I managed to overclock the cpu to 2.6 stable. Load temp is 50 celcius and 45 load with 1.375volts.

Multiplier 10x
FSB 260
166
4x
 

JPB

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Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
which games?

The games is in the list in my OP. I made it to 2.6 squirrel. Thanks for the advice. 8)

EDIT : The frames cap is in Quake 4 and Doom 3. Im not sure about Prey or Oblivion. These are games alot of people are still playing. Would like to see what they score. Although ill run the games at stock video settings with max candy.
 

JPB

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Well, I am now done with 3DMark. Ive got the maximum score possible ( I think ) with my setup.

My cpu is at 2.6 GHZ
FSB @ 260
Multi @ 10
Memory at 166

8800GTS
Core = 619 ( 24% OVERCLOCK )
Memory = 1968 ( 23% OVERCLCOK )

As you can see, I hit a wall. Anything over 620 core on video reboots the PC. However it is 100% stable at 620. It is possible to go more on the memory, I have just stopped at 1968. Video fan is at 100% during tests and at idle and 100% fan the temp is 58 celcius. At load, I get 74 celcius.

As far as helping video cooling, in the front of my case, I have ( 2 ) silver lightning Aerocool fans ( 92mm ) blowing in.

CPU is being cooled with ( 92mm ) Silverlightning Aerocool fan w/ Thermalright XP-90 and Arctic Silver 5. Temp of CPU is 40 celcius at 2.6 at idle. At load, it never raised over 49 celcius .

Now I just need to remove frame rate caps for the games that have them. So...onto the games.
 

deadseasquirrel

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Originally posted by: JPB
The games is in the list in my OP. I made it to 2.6 squirrel. Thanks for the advice. 8)

EDIT : The frames cap is in Quake 4 and Doom 3. Im not sure about Prey or Oblivion.

No problem. Glad I could help. As for Q4 and D3, those should both use the "com_fixedtic -1" without the quotes to remove the 60fps cap (just bring up the console and type that in). Well, I think it works on D3, but on Q4 and Prey it may not work. Not sure.

There is no cap in Oblivion that I have seen. If you're in a position to be getting over 60fps constantly, you need to crank up some AA, download some texture packs and mods, and spend more time outside in the forests. I'd kill to get even a MAX of 60fps in Oblivion at my settings.
 

JPB

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Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Originally posted by: JPB
The games is in the list in my OP. I made it to 2.6 squirrel. Thanks for the advice. 8)

EDIT : The frames cap is in Quake 4 and Doom 3. Im not sure about Prey or Oblivion.

No problem. Glad I could help. As for Q4 and D3, those should both use the "com_fixedtic -1" without the quotes to remove the 60fps cap (just bring up the console and type that in). Well, I think it works on D3, but on Q4 and Prey it may not work. Not sure.

There is no cap in Oblivion that I have seen. If you're in a position to be getting over 60fps constantly, you need to crank up some AA, download some texture packs and mods, and spend more time outside in the forests. I'd kill to get even a MAX of 60fps in Oblivion at my settings.

I tried com_fixedtic -1 in doom singleplayer with no success. Havent tried it in Quake 4 as of yet. Will do that after Oblivion.

Well, I have Qarls Texture Pack 3 installed in Oblivion. Right now these are the graphic card setting's im running...

Anisotropic filtering = 16x
Antialiasing-setting = 16xQ
Antialiasing -Transparency = Supersampling
Texture Filtering = High Quality

I know these settings are going to kill it, but going to try to run it anyhow. Ill have results up for Oblivion shortly with these settings.

Or what settings would you like me to run Oblivion at ?
 

JPB

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Im going to go ahead and run Prey at those same settings I used for Quake and Oblivion.