My parent's are being scammed here, look at this

[trmiv]

Had to drive up to my parent's so I just started reading this stuff. If the scam is that the checks are bad, and they just take the goods, who cares. The heads have been sitting the garage for 3 years, so if we get scammed out of those, no big whoop. The scam has to be much bigger than that. So should we contact someone on this, or just let it go?

 

[Subzero]

People still fall for this ?????

 

[trmiv]

I'd really like to keep this going so we can get these people. I contacted our local secret service office, we'll see what they want to do.

 

[JEDI]

it doesnt mention anything about being backed by the Nigerian Royal family, so it must be a scam!

 

[jjones]

Has anyone ever gone through with this? I mean, say okay, send the check. Then when the check arrives, just keep stalling them and telling them about some problem or other with clearing the check, etc. See how long it goes on.

It could be kind of fun to see what happens.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: trmiv
I'd really like to keep this going so we can get these people. I contacted our local secret service office, we'll see what they want to do.

I don't believe your local secret service would be too interested in something like this unless the scammers were also threatening the President.

And as people have already explained you would be out the heads (if you mailed them) and the amount you sent by western union.

 

[PanzerIV]

"Thank you for the informations..." LOL. They put informationS several times. You're correct in that the way it's structured is how they all sound. At least nobody died on that infamous highway in Nigeria they are always claiming killed somebody.

 

[trmiv]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: trmiv
I'd really like to keep this going so we can get these people. I contacted our local secret service office, we'll see what they want to do.

I don't believe your local secret service would be too interested in something like this unless the scammers were also threatening the President.

And as people have already explained you would be out the heads (if you mailed them) and the amount you sent by western union.

Yes they would, they handle things like this. People think the secret service only handles protection of the president, but that is only one duty. From the secret service website:

The United States Secret Service is mandated by statute and executive order to carry out two significant missions: protection and criminal investigations. The Secret Service protects the President and Vice President, their families, heads of state, and other designated individuals; investigates threats against these protectees; protects the White House, Vice President?s Residence, Foreign Missions, and other buildings within Washington, D.C.; and plans and implements security designs for designated National Special Security Events. The Secret Service also investigates violations of laws relating to counterfeiting of obligations and securities of the United States; financial crimes that include, but are not limited to, access device fraud, financial institution fraud, identity theft, computer fraud; and computer-based attacks on our nation?s financial, banking, and telecommunications infrastructure.

 

[paulandreas]

Originally posted by: trmiv
OK, I've stopped this before it could go any further, but look at this scam these fools tried to run on my parent's This started with some items we posted for sale on a racing website. I'm a race car driver, and we were trying to sell some old heads and shocks, on a site just for racing. I posted a classfied ad about this last week. First, my paren't receive and email from someone in Holland saying they want to buy the heads.

From: Jane Smth
To: email removed
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 4:52 AM
Subject: Chevy cast iron 041 small block heads

Hello, In regards to your advert,I'm willing to make an offer. Pls,I'll want you to tell me its present condition. What's your last price ? I'll pay you in a Cashiers Check withdrawn from a US bank, I'll be handling the shipment, Kindly reply today, Jane,from Holland

My dad then replied with info on the heads. Next email from "Jane". This is where it starts to get suspicious.

From: Jane Smth
To: The Montagues
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:51 PM
Subject: PAYMENT/PICKUP

Hello

Thanks for the mail.I will take it for $450.I really want to buy it.
For the pick up,have arranged for
that, my shipping agent will come for the pick up as
soon as the payment is settled, I just contacted my
client in the US who is going to make the payment for
me as he is owing me some money and he said he wants
to pay with cashiers check.I am not an American so you
guys know the most preferable option.
My client will be sending the check of $5,000 so i
expect that the excess funds on it be sent back as
this will be used for shipping arrangement.As soon as
i get your full name and address including your
contact number to which the check will be issued and
sent then i will immediately instruct my client
to send you the check.
I look forward to trustworthy transaction with you,
expecting your mail the soonest. and also tell me if i
can count on you to send back the balance or not.

Thank you once again.

My parent's then reply questioning the transaction. After reading that, "Jane sends the following email:

From: Jane Smth
To: The Montagues
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 2:48 AM
Subject: PAYMENT

JUST A QUICK NOTE THAT YOU WILL BE RECIEVING THE CASHIER CHECK FOR
THE PAYMENT TODAY.I WANT U TO CASH THE CHECK TODAY AND WIRE THE
REMAINING BALANCE VIA WESTERN UNION TO MY SHIPPING AGENT TODAY SO
THAT THEY CAN ARRANGE FOR THE PICK UP WITH THEIR US OFFICE AND THEIR
ACCOUNTING MANAGER DETAILS IS AS STATED BELOW:

FRED WILLIAMS
23 HOPTILLE AMSTERDAM
NETHERLANDS

WESTERN UNION WILL ATTRACT CHARGES FOR SENDING ,YOU CAN HAVE IT
DEDUCTED FROM MY BALANCE & SEND THE REST. IT'LL BE CHEAPER IF YOU
'VE THE WESTERN UNION DONE IN A STORE,BELOW IS A STORE THAT DOES
IT VERY CLOSE TO YOUR END,I WAS GIVEN WHEN I VISITED WESTERN UNION
OUTLET THIS MORNING.

SALIDA HOME MARKET
4601 BROADWAY
SALIDA, CA 95368
Tel: (209) 545-0333

ONCE THE FUNDS IS SENT THESE ARE THE FOLLOWING DETAILS YOU 'LL
HAVE TO MAIL TO ME INORDER TO HAVE MY SHIPPING AGENT PICK-UP THE
FUNDS:

MTCN #[CONTROL NUMBER]
SENDER'S FULL NAME & ADDRESS
TEST QUESTION & ANSWER.

MY REGARDS

OK, now during this whole thing, my paren'ts got an email from another guy regarding the shocks. Here's his email:

From: "James Kennedy"
To: email removed
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 6:00 PM
Subject: PURCHASE REQUEST.

Good day,

This is a purchase request for your advertised QA1 Steel rebuilable/revalveable shocks with kit .:Four shocks for
sale, two 9" and two 7". All are fully rebuildable and revalveable. Also
includes full rebuild kit.

However, prior to further transaction, let me use this
opportunity to introduxce myself to you, i am James Kennedy, i am located in Beaufort South Carolina 29907, and in regards to my purchase request, i
would like you to please furnish me with the following;

-the pics for a closer view...?
-your last and final asking price excluding shipping
charges....?
-the area of location for pickup and shipment....?
-if US Certified Cashier Check is acceptable as means of
payment....?

Looking forward to doing successful business transaction with
you.

Regards.
James.

Now this one threw all off kinds of red flags. First off, who from the US starts an email "Good Day"? Then, you says "however, prior to further transcation, let me use this opportunity to introduce myself to you." This dude is from South Carolina? Umm hello foreign money scammer!!!!!!!! Then, who in the US pays for something with a certified cashier's check? Anyway, my dad, suspect but seeing where this leads, responds that he'll get me to take pictures, but that someone from Seattle is serious about buying them too, he's just waiting for a call back.

From: "James Kennedy"
> >To: email removed
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 6:57 PM
Subject: PAYMENT.

Good day,

Thanks for the immediate response and attention shown to my
purchase request, thanks also for the informations forwarded, however, i
would like you to please reserve the purchasing right to me as i will hereby
make payment and pickup arrangement ASAP. And in regards to the payment, i have a US Client who is indebted to me some US Funds and has pledged and promised to make it payable soonest
via US Certified Cashier Check, and in order to make your payment faster
and easier, i will instruct him to make the payment to you upon my
request, ok?

Furthermore, immediately this payment is delivered and received,
please endeavour to keep me inform so that my extra remaining funds
after the deduction of your asking price so that it can be transfered to my ATTORNEY AGENT upon my request.

Therefore, if this is a deal that you can handle successfully,
please endeavour to send forward the following neccessary informations
needed to make payment to you, i.e;

-the name you want on the US Certified Cashier Check
-where you want the US Certified Cashier Check be delivered to
-your contact home, office and mobile phone number

Looking forward to doing good business transaction with you.

Regards.
James.

Holy crap, now if that isn't a scam alert. First of all, where did this "US client" and "US funds stuff come from? I thought dude claimed he was from South Carolina? Also, again, who the hell in the US talks like this? And, this dude wants to make the same type of transcation as ole Jane does?

So my dad replies, suspect, but trying to see what happens next. "James" then sends another email:

From: "James Kennedy"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:45 PM
Subject: PLEASE MAKE ENQUIRY IN REGARDS TO THE COST OF TRANSFERING MY
EXTRA
FUNDS.


Good day Ted,

Thanks for the informations forwarded, however, i will to this effect forward the informations to my US Client so that the funds owed me
can be remitted to you upon my request ASAP.

However, a payment of $4,000 US Certified Funds will be delivered to
you by my US Client been the total sum of US Funds owed me, therefore,
please endeavour to keep me posted immediately payment is delivered and
received so that i can be able to give you the shipping address and in regards to my remaining extra funds from the payment, i will give you my ATTORNEY'S INFORMATIONS as to who and where to transfer my remaining extra funds to.

Furthermore, i would like you to go to the nearest WESTERN UNION
OUTLET in your area of location and make enquiry for how much it will cost to
transfer my remaining extra funds to my ATTORNEY.

Looking forward to a successful business transaction.

Regards.
James.

LOL, now this one was the kicker. Sounds exactly like old Jane's email. I guess the old Nigerian Money scam has run dry, so this is the new racket they are trying to run. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what the scam is, but it obviously is one. I've told my parent's to stop doing anything with these people.

So what do you guys think? Should I contact anyone about this? I realize nothing can be probably be done, but I'd hate to just leave it. I will contact the website that runs the classfieds, to let them know the stuff that is going on. Maybe they can improve their ad system.

yeah the us cheque will bounce after a few days.

 

[MAME]

what's a cashier's check?

 

[DrPizza]

Repost times 10. I'm glad your parents didn't fall for it. Note the lack of an apostrophe on "parents."

 

[Nitemare]

So when am I going to get my headers?

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: trmiv
Yes they would, they handle things like this. People think the secret service only handles protection of the president, but that is only one duty. From the secret service website:

The United States Secret Service is mandated by statute and executive order to carry out two significant missions: protection and criminal investigations. The Secret Service protects the President and Vice President, their families, heads of state, and other designated individuals; investigates threats against these protectees; protects the White House, Vice President?s Residence, Foreign Missions, and other buildings within Washington, D.C.; and plans and implements security designs for designated National Special Security Events. The Secret Service also investigates violations of laws relating to counterfeiting of obligations and securities of the United States; financial crimes that include, but are not limited to, access device fraud, financial institution fraud, identity theft, computer fraud; and computer-based attacks on our nation?s financial, banking, and telecommunications infrastructure.

Sure, if you interpret that to mean they investigate your run-of-the-mill scammers, then go for it. Just don't expect much attention. I promise I won't laugh.

 

[trmiv]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: trmiv
Yes they would, they handle things like this. People think the secret service only handles protection of the president, but that is only one duty. From the secret service website:

The United States Secret Service is mandated by statute and executive order to carry out two significant missions: protection and criminal investigations. The Secret Service protects the President and Vice President, their families, heads of state, and other designated individuals; investigates threats against these protectees; protects the White House, Vice President?s Residence, Foreign Missions, and other buildings within Washington, D.C.; and plans and implements security designs for designated National Special Security Events. The Secret Service also investigates violations of laws relating to counterfeiting of obligations and securities of the United States; financial crimes that include, but are not limited to, access device fraud, financial institution fraud, identity theft, computer fraud; and computer-based attacks on our nation?s financial, banking, and telecommunications infrastructure.

Sure, if you interpret that to mean they investigate your run-of-the-mill scammers, then go for it. Just don't expect much attention. I promise I won't laugh.

Dude, the sites that have information on this scam tell you to contact the Secret Service. I've already been in contact with them over this matter.