My one day as a military police officer.

[Alone]

Destrekor, I suggest you back off and get out of this topic asap. At 21 years old and still only half way through ROTC you have no room to speak on this subject. The military now and the military back then are completely different. Even at this time, the lowly soldiers are involved in the politics. In the VN days you feared for you life every minute. While it may be bad now, an educated soldier would take a year of service now than a week during those days.

Just my opinion.

 

[Alone]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
you weren't already issued a weapon?

or is this a day in the life of your GI Joe's?

Were you in the military? You usually don't show up to duty like this carrying a sidearm.

 

[BoomerD]

Ain't no doubt...the military during Vietnam was MUCH different than it is today. Today's military is 100% volunteer. During Vietnam, something around 25-30% were draftees...MANY of whom did NOT want to be in the military, did NOT think they should have to serve, did NOT think the UCMJ applied to them, and often resisted the "military ways" in any way they could get away with.
I don't know if HappyPuppy was one of those draftees or not...to me, it really doesn't matter. It sounds like he served when he was called. That's good enough for me.

Happy, I too am one of the "old fucks" here. I enlisted in the USMC in January 1970, spent 22 months as a rifleman in Vietnam, and returned to my slovenly civilian ways in October 1973. The last 90 days of my enlistment were serving with a USMC MP company...even though I had never been a MP during any part of my enlistment. :roll:

 

[LtPage1]

Well played, sir. Keep up the good work, and I'm not kidding.

 

[Newbian]

So did you at least take the bullets out and keep them so when this guy goes to use his gun against some zombies only to find out someone took all the bullets shortly before getting his brains eaten?

 

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: keird

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: keird
I had to look up Fort MacArthur.

That was before my time, but I'm a First Sergeant, now. There's a shit load of articles under the UCMJ that you could be charged under.

Let's see...

Article 91?Insubordinate conduct toward warrant officer, noncommissioned
officer, or petty officer

Article 92?Failure to obey order or regulation

Article 96?Releasing prisoner without proper authority

Article 98?Noncompliance with procedural rules

Article 134?(Drinking liquor with prisoner)

But that's just me being a fucking smart-ass, petty and vindictive First Sergeant.

Heh, heh, my number 1 supporters throughout my short military career were all the first tops. don't know why, but even when I stole the CO's jeep and fridge the top backed me up.

I can't dispute this. Hell, I like you.

Can he come over to your house and fuck your sister?

😉

My sister is buttugly. Nobody in their right mind would want to fuck her. On the other hand, I hear you have quite a cute ass and I have some people of your ilk lined up to take advantage of your rosey white ass.

I wasn't referring to your sister. In fact, wasn't even talking to you. Go watch Full Metal Jacket. You'll get the reference.

 

[keird]

I just picked up a Soldier who was arrested this afternoon for being AWOL. I filled out an arrest warrant (took 20 minutes) and BLAMO, the PD is yanking her out of her driveway within an hour!

The PD usually gives McDonalds to it's prisoners, but I had brought 3 carefully selected MREs for her meals. It was strange that the guy selecting them randomly picked the 3 worst meals, but meh. I released her tonight, but I think she's a 19 year old brat that I instilled the fear of god into.

I'm in the National Guard, too.

That was my evening.

 

[Steve]

HappyPuppy, this is for you:


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[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: 0

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Yeah, when I was stationed at Ft. MacArthur one day after reville the First Sergeant called me in and told me to report to the stockade for prisoner guard work duty. I figgered, cool, I can lounge around the stockade all day eating bonbons and watching Queen for a Day.

When I got there the prick at the desk told me I was going to take six prisoners out in the middle of nowhere for some sort of cleanup chore. He had me sign a form swearing to uphold the UCMJ and promise to shoot any prisoner that tried to escape. He then opened the drawer of his desk, pulled out a .45 and handed it to me, saying that I shouldn't shoot anyone unless I was sure they were trying to escape.

What the fuck, you goddam moron, these guys were in for being AWOL, petty theft and jaywalking, not rape or murder! I handed the ultra violent mother fucking .45 back to him and said I'd take them out without it. He thought I was nuts, but you have to understand that MP's are pretty much sadists who couldn't make it on the outside with a legit police force, so they joined the military to exercise their morbid personalities. Fuck him.

Anyway, I loaded my prisoners on the back of a flatbed truck (real secure, eh?) and drove them out to the boonies where they were to chop weeds and pick up trash all day. When we got there I told them if they tried to escape I would be devastated and might even cry. They understood and we lounged around all day in the shade of the flatbed until it was time to go back to the stockade.

The military is, or at least was, such a steaming pile of putrid shit in oh so many ways.

We need more of you in Ass-Crack-Istan.

No we don't, we need real soldiers here, not wankers like this one.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Alone
Destrekor, I suggest you back off and get out of this topic asap. At 21 years old and still only half way through ROTC you have no room to speak on this subject. The military now and the military back then are completely different. Even at this time, the lowly soldiers are involved in the politics. In the VN days you feared for you life every minute. While it may be bad now, an educated soldier would take a year of service now than a week during those days.

Just my opinion.

I'll back him up on that opinion and i am a Captain that is twice his age.

You think ground troops under fire are any LESS afraid of their lives in urban combat or in the hills and mountains of Pakistan? Think the fuck again Soldier.

You do what you do until something keeps you from doing it.

That said i don't really mean any disrespect towards his or anyone elses efforts or honor.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Alone
Destrekor, I suggest you back off and get out of this topic asap. At 21 years old and still only half way through ROTC you have no room to speak on this subject. The military now and the military back then are completely different. Even at this time, the lowly soldiers are involved in the politics. In the VN days you feared for you life every minute. While it may be bad now, an educated soldier would take a year of service now than a week during those days.

Just my opinion.

WOW ROTC! You don't say....

I think you have been already brainwashed if you think it's all safe and the average soldier still is not considered just an expedable asset.

In war, the average GI is just a pawn.

I would suggest you talk more to dudes coming back from Iraq, those from Desert Storm/Shield, Somalia, etc and ask if they really felt so trusting.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: alkemyst
you weren't already issued a weapon?

or is this a day in the life of your GI Joe's?

Were you in the military? You usually don't show up to duty like this carrying a sidearm.

They also usually don't just make someone an MP.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Ain't no doubt...the military during Vietnam was MUCH different than it is today. Today's military is 100% volunteer. During Vietnam, something around 25-30% were draftees...MANY of whom did NOT want to be in the military, did NOT think they should have to serve, did NOT think the UCMJ applied to them, and often resisted the "military ways" in any way they could get away with.
I don't know if HappyPuppy was one of those draftees or not...to me, it really doesn't matter. It sounds like he served when he was called. That's good enough for me.

Happy, I too am one of the "old fucks" here. I enlisted in the USMC in January 1970, spent 22 months as a rifleman in Vietnam, and returned to my slovenly civilian ways in October 1973. The last 90 days of my enlistment were serving with a USMC MP company...even though I had never been a MP during any part of my enlistment. :roll:

I wouldn't say 100% volunteer. It's more or less you can elect to sign on, but with the recycling they are doing now and reassigning those into hot spots...it's a different beast.

Even during the drafts you could elect to sign on early and secure yourself a job you wanted rather than be drafted into one.

 

[SP33Demon]

Someone off their meds?

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: keird
I just picked up a Soldier who was arrested this afternoon for being AWOL. I filled out an arrest warrant (took 20 minutes) and BLAMO, the PD is yanking her out of her driveway within an hour!

The PD usually gives McDonalds to it's prisoners, but I had brought 3 carefully selected MREs for her meals. It was strange that the guy selecting them randomly picked the 3 worst meals, but meh. I released her tonight, but I think she's a 19 year old brat that I instilled the fear of god into.

I'm in the National Guard, too.

That was my evening.

I had to update this post. Excuse the quote.

It turns out that I had this girl detained for no reason other than an administrative error.

She invited family that weekend and had made plans with her recruiter to excuse her from duty. The administrative error was that she was placed on our books as 'to be present for duty' and when she wasn't a certified letter was sent to her. The letter said that she was AWOL and that she needed to contact the unit or she'd go to jail. The subsequent month she still wasn't present and we acted. Whoops.

I was waving this letter around and acting all indignant towards her in a detention cell. She wasn't acting like she was 'caught', though. It turned out that she never went to Basic Training yet and didn't even have a uniform. She was released and her father brought her to the unit the next morning. The whole Command apologized when we realized what happened. We paid her for her troubles, though.

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Christ Almighty, with all due respect to you, assuming you are actually in the military, you don't have a clue as to what it was like back then, any more than how nice it is for you pussies to be wearing body armor and have weapons that would have made us envious.

Don't ever equate your service with those who came before you. The rules were different.

And you don't have a clue as to what it is like right now.:roll: