my newest computer problem I HAVE 2 WITH THIS PROBLEM....PLEASE TONIGHT

[redass1876]

i was using my computer the other day and it worked fine.
I woke up this morning and tried to turn it on, now it wont work. The fans turn on, but the keyboard and mouse get no power, and there is no video either. I have no spare parts to test with. I tried clearing CMOS and it did nothing. As best i can tell, the HD is spinning too.

my guess is a dead mobo, but it still puzzels me how the fans turn on and everything. Please help

 

[blodhi74]

sys specs please

 

[redass1876]

XP 1800+
ECS K7S5A pro mobo
512mb PC2100
20 GB WD HD
Voodoo 3 3000 16mb Vid
350 or 400 W power supply

this is my gf's computer, not mine by the way.

it wont post or anything when it turns on, no power to optical mouse or PS/2 keyboard

 

[buckmasterson]

I'm not so sure your problem is with you motherboard. Try resetting your RAM, or puling one stick out and swapping them. It could be your power supply... If not, your processor. If you can find someone with a cheap duron, you could test it.

 

[redass1876]

yeah, i dont live close to her, im going home to see her in about a week, so i figure i will just take my computer and test parts then

 

[ViciouS]

This is the only way i could see this happening..... Your girlfriends cheating on you with a fat trekky nerd. They where making out and she threw him on the bed on top of the cat. The cat Meowed really loud scarring the dog who bit one of the other two guys who where watching in the balls. The bit guy bends over in pain head butting the other voyeur who then spills his Natural Ice beer on the cat who is now hiding in behind the chair. The cat then runs across the computer desk knocking over the lamp busting the light bulb. The bit guy recovers from the bite kicking the dog into the desk knocking over the glass of water and the lamp rolls to the keyboard touching it. Electricity travels through the now fried wet keyboard shocking the mother board and frying a bunch of transistors. This happened to me once.... I KILLED EVERYONE except the dog and cat. That should fix your computer problem.

 

[redass1876]

that does sounds like good advice

 

[ViciouS]

Don't Judge me!

 

[redass1876]

im not judging, im saying it is good advice

 

[Zinn2b]

I have had the same problem with customer machines 9out of 10 its P/S

 

[smittybg]

1st step -psu
2. video card
3. ram
4. all cards out
5. all drives unplugged
6. cpu
7. MB

this is the order i unsually test in

 

[redass1876]

ok, i traded out all components and was left with mobo, so i plugged all my GF's computer parts into mine, (except mobo) so i wouldnt have to remove a mobo, and now my computer is doing the same damn thing after i put all my old stuff back in...WTF is going on....and i think my processor is smoking now help me PLEASE

 

[sharq]

I would say strip down the machine that you have. Use only MB, CPU, RAM, and video. Take out any sound/lan/modem cards, take out IDE devices and floppy. Try that absolute basic setup and see if it'll atleast post and let you into the bios. If it doesn't, try it with the other psu that you have. If still nothing, then the only way to tell is to get a friends machine and test each item one by one, key here is testing them one by one to make sure each individual component works.

 

[redass1876]

but i already did all that... First i stripped down to video, 1 stick of ram, mobo, processor, HD.... that didnt work....then i took out HD to see if i could at least get any video, still didnt work. Then i brought home my machine today, and put my ram, and vid card and HD in hers and it didnt work... Then i put my processor in hers and still the same problem. So to test her mobo, i put all her stuff into mine and that did not work either (1 XP1900+ mine is 2100+ so should work). Then i put mine back together and it is having the same problem as hers had now, no video, and i think there is smoke coming off of the processor too

 

[redass1876]

would a processor be able to short out a mobo?


also, the onboard sound is rapidly clicking from the time i turn on the computer. I am out of ideas, i dont know why mine wont work either now, and that REALLY pisses me off... someone please help me out ASAP


her setup is above
my setup:
xp 2100+
gigabyte GA-7DXE mobo
400W PSU
Ti4600 vid
Audigy sound
Ethernet PCI
160 and 80 GB WD HD
DVD RW and DVD ROM

 

[redass1876]

if you can pm me on AIM - redass1876 ( i would love to take care of this ASAP) i need my computer...i have a autocad project due monday and about 50 hours of work on it

 

[redass1876]

bump....pleeeease

 

[amdskip]

If you seriously see smoke coming from the processer, then its fried. What heatsink did you have and did you have it mounted correctly? Its extremely rare that they just burn up for no reason and I don't think this applies to you. Not all ecs mobos are created equal either as some will boot off cheaper power supplies and some won't. What power supply are you using (brand/model)?

 

[redass1876]

My board is a gygabyte and it is a 400W Raidmax PSU...the heatsink is cheap, but i didnt even have it on when it started smoking (only left it off for about 3 seconds before smoke started coming off of it just to see if would boot) and after the smoke, i reattatched the HSF and still smoke.

 

[Ionizer86]

Raidmax isn't quite the best brand of power supply. You could judge it yourself by its weight and ergonomics (how hot, loud, how many wires, wire length etc). I'd replace the power supply while you place a CPU order.

I can recommend a Sparkle or Fortron 300/350W or an Allied 400/450W. They're all priced very reasonably at Newegg (about $20 to $35 + shipping for these).

 

[TOPACTION]

well same thing happened to me and I was thinking! that it was the cpu who as fried up, SO just for fun I tryed another cpu in my pc.. and then BAM it screw up the the 1800 cpu of my friend !!... so what I did it change the darn board and it working fine now ... and give my old cpy to my friend since it was oK!!!

So it maybe be your mother board since I was having the same thing as you... I was hearing the fan but nothing else was powering on.

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: redass1876
My board is a gygabyte and it is a 400W Raidmax PSU...the heatsink is cheap, but i didnt even have it on when it started smoking (only left it off for about 3 seconds before smoke started coming off of it just to see if would boot) and after the smoke, i reattatched the HSF and still smoke.

Ding ding ding! :Q Game over.

FINAL SCORE[*]Heat 1
[*]Processor 0

 

[redass1876]

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: redass1876
My board is a gygabyte and it is a 400W Raidmax PSU...the heatsink is cheap, but i didnt even have it on when it started smoking (only left it off for about 3 seconds before smoke started coming off of it just to see if would boot) and after the smoke, i reattatched the HSF and still smoke.

Ding ding ding! :Q Game over.

FINAL SCORE[*]Heat 1
[*]Processor 0

it wasnt working before i did that either, and would it heat up in 2-3 seconds fast enough to be smoking?

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: redass1876

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: redass1876
My board is a gygabyte and it is a 400W Raidmax PSU...the heatsink is cheap, but i didnt even have it on when it started smoking (only left it off for about 3 seconds before smoke started coming off of it just to see if would boot) and after the smoke, i reattatched the HSF and still smoke.

Ding ding ding! :Q Game over.

FINAL SCORE[*]Heat 1
[*]Processor 0

it wasnt working before i did that either, and would it heat up in 2-3 seconds fast enough to be smoking?

Try this:

• Wrap your hand around a turned-on 60-watt lightbulb for three seconds
• Now imagine all of that heat being focused on just your fingernail :Q

See where I'm going with this? Pumping 50-60W of heat into a tiny sliver of silicon for three seconds is all it will take to ruin a CPU. An Athlon, Duron, or AthlonXP needs the mass of the heatsink to be there to absorb that heat, since it doesn't have a copper heatspreader slug like a Pentium4 or Athlon64 to absorb the thermal spike.


Edit: by the way, on motherboards that feature overheat-protection circuits, the mobo will cut power to an AthlonXP in under 1 second if it has no heatsink, that's how fast the CPU reaches an overheat condition.

 

[Viper96720]

Video of athlon going poof here