My mother is crazy

[Kilgor]

LOL it?s what you call living in a Free Society. Should we make Drivers licenses a Right how about internet connections? You represent everything that is morally sick and diseased in the world to day, imo. I was not put on this earth to take care of other people?s families. I can?t tell somebody else to buy a Corolla and Heath Insurance instead of a Lexus.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I hope I'm not alive to see that kind of socialist system in the US. Welfare, SS, Medicare, Medicaid, etc... are bad enough.

Don't forget all the corporate welfare.

I was not specific for a reason. So, you can take that part of your left-wing agenda and shove it.

Truth hurts doesn't it.

What truth?

Ignoring it won't make it any less true.

What the fvck are you talking about? When have I ever defended corporate welfare?

So you care to tell us your reason for excluding "corporate welfare" from your list?

Because I didn't realize I'd have a jackass splitting hairs and assuming exactly what I mean by welfare.

 

[Auryg]

Ugh, you're from Windom? I had a bad experience in that town, although I don't remember it much.

 

[gotsmack]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: gotsmack

A civilized society recognizes the rights of individuals to not be oppressed by the private concerns of others.

A civilised society taxes it's citizens, and puts those taxes to good use. A civilized society allows those who disagree with this system - such as yourself - to fvck off and die. Or alternatively, to relocate.

Good use of taxes is for the protection of it's property from foreign invaders, making sure the the foods we eat are safe, maintaining the enviroment, and education of its populace not paying voluntarily extremely low or non productive citizens to get expensive treatments.

We already care for those who are physically and mentally unable to care for themselves, maybe they could use a little more help. But if you can work but choose not to, then you don't deserve health coverage.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I hope I'm not alive to see that kind of socialist system in the US. Welfare, SS, Medicare, Medicaid, etc... are bad enough.

Don't forget all the corporate welfare.

I was not specific for a reason. So, you can take that part of your left-wing agenda and shove it.

Truth hurts doesn't it.

What truth?

Ignoring it won't make it any less true.

What the fvck are you talking about? When have I ever defended corporate welfare?

So you care to tell us your reason for excluding "corporate welfare" from your list?

Because I didn't realize I'd have a jackass splitting hairs and assuming exactly what I mean by welfare.

Your list makes it pretty clear what you consider is and is not welfare.

 

[gotsmack]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I hope I'm not alive to see that kind of socialist system in the US. Welfare, SS, Medicare, Medicaid, etc... are bad enough.

Don't forget all the corporate welfare.

I was not specific for a reason. So, you can take that part of your left-wing agenda and shove it.

Truth hurts doesn't it.

What truth?

Ignoring it won't make it any less true.

What the fvck are you talking about? When have I ever defended corporate welfare?

So you care to tell us your reason for excluding "corporate welfare" from your list?

Corporate welfare is VOLUNTARY

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I hope she stays safe but I hope the goal of her walk fails miserably. Healthcare is not a right nor should it be considered one.

/P&N

I can't even begin to fathom the DEPRAVITY that would lead someone to advocate the above viewpoint. You represent everything that is morally sick and diseased in the USA today, imo.

So youre the "tolerant" Australian i've heard about eh?

Of course I am not tolerant. Greed, selfishness, stupidity, these things disgust and offend me at times.

 

[mchammer]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I hope she stays safe but I hope the goal of her walk fails miserably. Healthcare is not a right nor should it be considered one.

/P&N

I can't even begin to fathom the DEPRAVITY that would lead someone to advocate the above viewpoint. You represent everything that is morally sick and diseased in the USA today, imo.

So youre the "tolerant" Australian i've heard about eh?

Of course I am not tolerant. Greed, selfishness, stupidity, these things disgust and offend me at times.

I don't think anyone will listen to your points with that attitude. People can have different political opinions than you, you know.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: her209
Your list makes it pretty clear what you consider is and is not welfare.

Ok, let me break this down a little bit for you. The reason I wasn't specific when I listed welfare is because it doesn't matter to me if a gov't handout is to an individual or a corporation. If that isn't clear enough for you, then your learning disability is not my problem. So, again, go shove your left-wing assumptions on somebody else.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: her209
Your list makes it pretty clear what you consider is and is not welfare.

Ok, let me break this down a little bit for you. The reason I wasn't specific when I listed welfare is because it doesn't matter if a gov't handout is to an individual or a corporation. So, again, go shove your left-wing assumptions on somebody elese.

That's all I wanted to hear.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I hope she stays safe but I hope the goal of her walk fails miserably. Healthcare is not a right nor should it be considered one.

/P&N

I can't even begin to fathom the DEPRAVITY that would lead someone to advocate the above viewpoint. You represent everything that is morally sick and diseased in the USA today, imo.

So youre the "tolerant" Australian i've heard about eh?

Of course I am not tolerant. Greed, selfishness, stupidity, these things disgust and offend me at times.

I don't think anyone will listen to your points with that attitude. People can have different political opinions than you, you know.

Incorrect.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I hope she stays safe but I hope the goal of her walk fails miserably. Healthcare is not a right nor should it be considered one.

/P&N

I can't even begin to fathom the DEPRAVITY that would lead someone to advocate the above viewpoint. You represent everything that is morally sick and diseased in the USA today, imo.

So youre the "tolerant" Australian i've heard about eh?

Of course I am not tolerant. Greed, selfishness, stupidity, these things disgust and offend me at times.

I don't think anyone will listen to your points with that attitude. People can have different political opinions than you, you know.

And Feldanak or whatever hasn't had an attitude throughout this entire thread?

Oh, I get it he agrees w/you. I'd take your own advice man.

 

[mchammer]

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I hope she stays safe but I hope the goal of her walk fails miserably. Healthcare is not a right nor should it be considered one.

/P&N

I can't even begin to fathom the DEPRAVITY that would lead someone to advocate the above viewpoint. You represent everything that is morally sick and diseased in the USA today, imo.

So youre the "tolerant" Australian i've heard about eh?

Of course I am not tolerant. Greed, selfishness, stupidity, these things disgust and offend me at times.

I don't think anyone will listen to your points with that attitude. People can have different political opinions than you, you know.

And Feldanak or whatever hasn't had an attitude throughout this entire thread?

Oh, I get it he agrees w/you. I'd take your own advice man.

So you know my opinion now Plus like five people were already on him, I'm not a mod you know

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Yzzim
My mother is crazy, but sometimes that's what it takes to get things noticed.

Saturday morning at 6am my family, close friends and supporters met at our local courthouse steps. We met to start what has been in the works for 3+ months, involved many late nights and the help of many other people just as crazy as my mother.

That morning we kicked off what is to be the longest and most important walk of my mother's life - The Great HealthCare Walk. A 154 mile walk to the state capitol to talk with legislators about making healthcare for Minnesotans a consitutional right. Along the way she is building up support by having town meetings to discuss the topic, and have people sign a petition to get the amendment moving.

The idea first started 3 months ago when my grandmother was moving into a nursing home. Almost all of the money my grandmother gets from social security and veteran's benefits goes to covering her care. She ends up with about $75/month. Of that, just under $20 is taken out for her medical decutable and another $25 is taken out to have a telephone. She ends up with $30/month to buy anything the nursing home does not offer. With 6 grandchildren and 2 great grandchildren, birthdays and christmas really deduct from that money quickly.

I work a full-time job and do not have any health insurance through work. My wife is going to school full-time (for nursing, no less) and is unable to get a part-time job. We pay $220/month for health insurance with a $1000 deductible. That is decent coverage for a fair price. However, we are both young. In 10 years we will be paying triple that, easily, for the same coverage.

Thus, my mother walks.

In her first day she put in 34 miles. Her second day was the same. Averaging 3.5 miles/hour she has made the trip by walking right at sunrise and arriving at her destination a little before sunset. Stopping for a break every couple hours to eat some protein bars and take the much needed bathroom breaks.

Her feet are blistered. Her ankle is getting more sore by the mile. Not that she will tell anyone in the press that, as it will take the focus off her goal.

This walk has gotten bigger and bigger each and every step she takes. First our local paper did an article on her. Once she started the walk it went state-wide.

KEYC-TV w/video

Manakto Free Press

St Paul Pioneer Press

Star Tribune

WCCO

(links may require subscription)

She was also live on WCCO Radio this morning. And again on KEYC-TV (w/video) today. There was also an excerpt in today's USA Today.

As she gets closer to the capitol more organizations are gaining interest. With the contacts we have come in touch with my neighbor and I are working on getting a couple well-known people to meet her at the capitol (a former Vice President?) but nothing is concrete.

This is not a walk in the park (pun intended) as she's walking just feet from vehicles traveling at 65+ MPH.

If you could please remember my mother in your prayers tonight it would be much appreciated.

Your mother is not going to get much love from this forum. But Gandhi's 241 mile march to Dandi will always be remembered.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I hope I'm not alive to see that kind of socialist system in the US. Welfare, SS, Medicare, Medicaid, etc... are bad enough.

Don't forget all the corporate welfare.

I was not specific for a reason. So, you can take that part of your left-wing agenda and shove it.

Truth hurts doesn't it.

What truth?

Ignoring it won't make it any less true.

What the fvck are you talking about? When have I ever defended corporate welfare?

So you care to tell us your reason for excluding "corporate welfare" from your list?

Because I didn't realize I'd have a jackass splitting hairs and assuming exactly what I mean by welfare.

Your list makes it pretty clear what you consider is and is not welfare.

GTFO of OT and back to P&N.