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My kids mom basically stole his cell phone

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: Xanis
To the people who consider his son spoiled:

$12/month plus a free phone for just his son isn't exactly a lot of money as far as that kind of stuff goes. Being able to talk to his son and having peace of mind that he could call for help is hardly spoiling him. I'd even venture to say that it's necessary given his son's condition and the family situation everyone is in.

As far as the mom goes... she sucks, plain and simple. Best of luck getting your money.

A cell phone isn't spoiling a boy. A girl, yes.
what?

To males a phone is a tool which, regrettably, has to be used once in a great while.

To females a phone is uncut heroin.
you have a warped sense of reality or hang out with some ditzy chicks.

i see just as many men with a phone stuck to their ear as women.

thats because they are stuck talking to the women. also its probably you with the warped sense of reality tbh.
 
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
Originally posted by: rudeguy
I got my son a phone for his birthday last year. He is 11 and has diabetes. He travels a lot, so I figured it would be a good thing for him to have a phone. He has had it almost a year now and with the exception of one month, he has been great with it. I have 1500 minutes that I never touch. We each have 5 people we can call for free and thats about the extent of our voice use.

Well today I found out that his mom has been using his phone. Not only that, her boyfriend has too. I text to find out what my balance is and yep...$120. My bill is never over $40 a month. I called his mom on it and she said that she would pay me for it when she gets her tax refund. Money is tight as it is and now I have to pay for her and her boyfriend's phone calls? Grrrr.

The thing that pisses me off the most is that they didn't ask. I could have changed my plan around to save some money. But they just started using the thing like they owned it. I never saw this coming. I wouldn't ever dream that they would do this...

Obligatory 11-year-old doesn't need a cell phone.

But seriously, he doesn't need a cell phone.

shit, I didn't have a cell phone when I was 11 and I died, couldn't live without one, don't listen to this idiot
 
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: Xanis
To the people who consider his son spoiled:

$12/month plus a free phone for just his son isn't exactly a lot of money as far as that kind of stuff goes. Being able to talk to his son and having peace of mind that he could call for help is hardly spoiling him. I'd even venture to say that it's necessary given his son's condition and the family situation everyone is in.

As far as the mom goes... she sucks, plain and simple. Best of luck getting your money.

A cell phone isn't spoiling a boy. A girl, yes.
what?

To males a phone is a tool which, regrettably, has to be used once in a great while.

To females a phone is uncut heroin.
you have a warped sense of reality or hang out with some ditzy chicks.

i see just as many men with a phone stuck to their ear as women.

thats because they are stuck talking to the women. also its probably you with the warped sense of reality tbh.

see the post above this one. 😕
 
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
Obligatory 11-year-old doesn't need a cell phone.

But seriously, he doesn't need a cell phone.

i don't see what the big deal is. rudeguy seems to have a legit reason to get his son a cellphone, and most kids get cellphones when they get into highschool, around the age of 13, so i don't see why at 11 it's that big of a deal.
 
I feel for the OP. I was going to suggest having her pitch in for the bill, but then that would just end up giving her the sense of entitlement, and you don't really want that. Plus, with it under the OP's name, she can do all kinds of sh!t with the phone to screw over the OP.

I guess really the only solution is for OP to confront the ex and tell her that the phone belongs to him, and he gave it to the son for his exclusive use so that he can communicate with his son like he is entitled to. If she wants to use a cell phone, go buy her own. She has no entitlement to the phone.

If she can't pay the overage charges, take something as collateral. Take it out of a support payment or something that impacts her bottom line.
 
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
Originally posted by: rudeguy
I got my son a phone for his birthday last year. He is 11 and has diabetes. He travels a lot, so I figured it would be a good thing for him to have a phone. He has had it almost a year now and with the exception of one month, he has been great with it. I have 1500 minutes that I never touch. We each have 5 people we can call for free and thats about the extent of our voice use.

Well today I found out that his mom has been using his phone. Not only that, her boyfriend has too. I text to find out what my balance is and yep...$120. My bill is never over $40 a month. I called his mom on it and she said that she would pay me for it when she gets her tax refund. Money is tight as it is and now I have to pay for her and her boyfriend's phone calls? Grrrr.

The thing that pisses me off the most is that they didn't ask. I could have changed my plan around to save some money. But they just started using the thing like they owned it. I never saw this coming. I wouldn't ever dream that they would do this...

Obligatory 11-year-old doesn't need a cell phone.

But seriously, he doesn't need a cell phone.

THIS! Cancel the cell phone plan now if you ever want to keep your pockets full. She won't pay, I bet.
 
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
Obligatory 11-year-old doesn't need a cell phone.

But seriously, he doesn't need a cell phone.

THIS! Cancel the cell phone plan now if you ever want to keep your pockets full. She won't pay, I bet.

You guys are missing the fact his kid has a disability. The boy should have a way to contact the father at all times on him, a cell phone is the best way. The mother sounds like a douchebag deadbeat and thus the boy probably wouldn't and doesn't want to turn to her for help.

OP, suspend the line. When the ex-bitch calls about it, tell her you suspended it because she abused your lifeline to your son.
 
Originally posted by: Boo Boo
what you get for having a ex and being divorced
Nice...:disgust😡Boo Boo

I'd look at perhaps only giving her the child support - $120 next month. See if this is OK with the powers that be. Or if you have a handiman friend, schedule a visit to her house and go to the bathroom. Then comment you hear something funny and that you know a repairman who will come and fix it. The bill? $120. It's wierd how fate gets tied into these sorts of numbers...errr...situations.
 
Originally posted by: syee
I feel for the OP. I was going to suggest having her pitch in for the bill, but then that would just end up giving her the sense of entitlement, and you don't really want that. Plus, with it under the OP's name, she can do all kinds of sh!t with the phone to screw over the OP.

I guess really the only solution is for OP to confront the ex and tell her that the phone belongs to him, and he gave it to the son for his exclusive use so that he can communicate with his son like he is entitled to. If she wants to use a cell phone, go buy her own. She has no entitlement to the phone.

If she can't pay the overage charges, take something as collateral. Take it out of a support payment or something that impacts her bottom line.

Taking it out of the support payment will effect the kid, and probably get the OP in some hot water. I'd go with a prepaid phone that can only dial numbers you allow.
 
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Wow, what the hell is wrong with some of the people here? Ohh boy.. he's 11 and he spoiled because he has a cellphone!!

I mean seriously WTF... did everyone over here grow up without electricity, food, and clean running water...
The OP stated that it was so they could talk to each other? How the hell is that spoiling him.

Originally posted by: zeruty
Get your son one of those children's cell phones that only allow the child to call a limited set of numbers (911, you, his mom, etc)
That way his mom can't use it...

Tell your son that's all he gets until he learns to stand up to his POS mother and hang on to his damn cell phone 😛


Oops, beaten to it

Now thats a good suggestion.

Learn to read. I said that he was spoiled because he doesn't need a cell phone to play music on or play games on. He only needs to talk on it. A 911 phone would accomplish that and keep the money-grubbing Mommy from taking advantage of it.

Would it make him cool among his 11-year-old peers? Who cares. If it's for medical purposes and to talk to his father that's really all that matters.

Jeez the kid's not spoilt for having a good phone. if everything he got was top of the range, as per his whims then he'd be spoilt :roll: Live a little.
 
Originally posted by: Sentrosi2121
Originally posted by: Boo Boo
what you get for having a ex and being divorced
Nice...:disgust😡Boo Boo

I'd look at perhaps only giving her the child support - $120 next month. See if this is OK with the powers that be. Or if you have a handiman friend, schedule a visit to her house and go to the bathroom. Then comment you hear something funny and that you know a repairman who will come and fix it. The bill? $120. It's wierd how fate gets tied into these sorts of numbers...errr...situations.

I'm going to be a mean here and point out a few things before everyone wants to feel too sorry for him:

1) He isn't paying child support, those of us with real jobs are paying it for him whether he's on SSI or SSD. He's on disability which means his kid is collecting benefits. (greatest scam of some of my clients is to get on disability to avoid paying child support)

2) He has a restricted license or suspended license, anyone want as to guess why?

3) While having a fifth in cabinet isn't a crime given the first 2 points any guesses as to what contributed to his situation.

4) If you can afford a PC and an internet connection you're not too broke.

5) He never said he was married to her just that he had a kid with her. If she's so broke that she can't pony up her share of a phone bill then she, her new boyfriend, (live in most likely) are just your standard mopes and again he got himself into this situation.

6) If you have an 11 year old then by the law of averages your age should be late 20's or early 30's a little too young to be on disability unless you got hit by a train, had some other catastrophic accident or debilitating disease, (driving drunk and crashing your car doesn't count, see point 2)

Sorry but I hear this story or some variation everyday from my clients who don't want to take responsibility for their own situation and eventually you can pick out the bulls**ters and the whiners from those that are truly sincere and need help.
 
Originally posted by: Slapstick

I'm going to be a mean here and point out a few things before everyone wants to feel too sorry for him:

1) He isn't paying child support, those of us with real jobs are paying it for him whether he's on SSI or SSD. He's on disability which means his kid is collecting benefits. (greatest scam of some of my clients is to get on disability to avoid paying child support)

2) He has a restricted license or suspended license, anyone want as to guess why?

3) While having a fifth in cabinet isn't a crime given the first 2 points any guesses as to what contributed to his situation.

4) If you can afford a PC and an internet connection you're not too broke.

5) He never said he was married to her just that he had a kid with her. If she's so broke that she can't pony up her share of a phone bill then she, her new boyfriend, (live in most likely) are just your standard mopes and again he got himself into this situation.

6) If you have an 11 year old then by the law of averages your age should be late 20's or early 30's a little too young to be on disability unless you got hit by a train, had some other catastrophic accident or debilitating disease, (driving drunk and crashing your car doesn't count, see point 2)

Sorry but I hear this story or some variation everyday from my clients who don't want to take responsibility for their own situation and eventually you can pick out the bulls**ters and the whiners from those that are truly sincere and need help.

I can see where you would make those assumptions, but they aren't quite correct.

1. I am on STD through my insurance. I have been paying into insurance all my life and this is the first time I have ever really used it. My son is not collecting benefits and I am still fulfilling my obligations.

2. My license is actually revoked. I used to have a habit of collecting DUI's.

3. Having alcohol around and not going to it in the face of adversity is a good sign of strong sobriety IMHO. Its been 302 days since I have needed to take a drink.

4. My computer and internet are my connection to the outside world. I never said that I was destitute, just that I don't have much money. Should I give up any and all modern conveniences in order to....wait, what was it you wanted me to do?

5. Is 100% correct.

6. I am 30 (fuck). After being sober for about 6 months, I was hit with a pretty severe depression. Some call it PAWS, others have their names for it. I had to make a choice between taking a pay cut and focusing on getting better, or going back to my old ways and starting the cycle again. I chose to make some pretty severe sacrifices to protect my sobriety. However, I have turned down all government assistance during this time. I could easily have a Bridge Card and be living in a cushy section 8 house but I am not.

I know there are too many people who play the system. I get frustrated myself. Even though I am living off 60% of what I am used to, I still have to pay taxes and insurance. I have taken full responsibility for my past and made amends for what I did. I am in the situation I am in because of decisions that I made in the past and I have accepted that. If you read this thread carefully, you would see that I have taken responsibility for this current situation too. There hasn't been any issues for the past 11 months and I never considered this might happen. I'm a dumbass for putting myself in a situation where this could possibly happen. I accept that. I can still be pissed about it, I can still fret over where to cut back in order to pay for it and I can still post threads about it. I don't have to make this someone else's problem and I damn sure don't have to drink over it.
 
"6. I am 30 (fuck). After being sober for about 6 months, I was hit with a pretty severe depression. Some call it PAWS, others have their names for it. I had to make a choice between taking a pay cut and focusing on getting better, or going back to my old ways and starting the cycle again. I chose to make some pretty severe sacrifices to protect my sobriety. However, I have turned down all government assistance during this time. I could easily have a Bridge Card and be living in a cushy section 8 house but I am not. "

I stand corrected! (thank God or what ever power you hold to!) Good luck with the changes you're making and when you are satisfied they are long lasting try and get custody of your son, it sounds like he'd be better off with you than living with mope mom and her boyfriend. Again GOOD LUCK to you!
 
Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: xSauronx

she's seflish and stupid?

seriously, im divorced from someone and this is the exact behavior i would expect of her if i had given our kids a cell phone.

good luck getting that "tax refund" money
it will be gone before she even gets it, and paying you your share of the phone bill wont be any part of it :-/

The shitty part is that if I cancel it, I won't have any way to talk to him. Him having this phone is USUALLY cheaper than a prepaid.

I am such a dumbass...

Dont know if anyone has said this yet but almost all phones have some sort of keypass locking mechanism on it. Have him create a PIN number on it? If the mom starts bugging him about the lock the son can easily say that its your phone and I'm not allowed to let anyone use it with permission. You'll have to ask him.

Keeps your son from getting on his mother's bad side and will let you keep control of things so the selfish bitch doesn't try to steal from you again.

EDIT: Nevermind, it has been mentioned more than once, sorry about that.

Yeah I did mention this before but I don't mind it being mentioned again as I'm not sure if anyone actually saw it, especially the OP. Have your son put a passcode on the phone and make sure he knows NOT to give it to his mother. Problem solved.
 
Originally posted by: Slapstick
"6. I am 30 (fuck). After being sober for about 6 months, I was hit with a pretty severe depression. Some call it PAWS, others have their names for it. I had to make a choice between taking a pay cut and focusing on getting better, or going back to my old ways and starting the cycle again. I chose to make some pretty severe sacrifices to protect my sobriety. However, I have turned down all government assistance during this time. I could easily have a Bridge Card and be living in a cushy section 8 house but I am not. "

I stand corrected! (thank God or what ever power you hold to!) Good luck with the changes you're making and when you are satisfied they are long lasting try and get custody of your son, it sounds like he'd be better off with you than living with mope mom and her boyfriend. Again GOOD LUCK to you!

😎
I appreciate the kind words. I am in a pretty big internal debate on if I want to move back into the city to be closer to him. That would mean addressing some things that I haven't had to deal with living out here in BFE. But that's really cool part of this journey that I am on. I actually look forward to dealing with problems instead of running away from them.
 
Originally posted by: kevnich2


Yeah I did mention this before but I don't mind it being mentioned again as I'm not sure if anyone actually saw it, especially the OP. Have your son put a passcode on the phone and make sure he knows NOT to give it to his mother. Problem solved.

I answered it, but it was buried.

I would not put him in a position where he would have to play the bad guy. Since I found out they are using the phone, I have tweaked my plan so that it won't be a concern anymore.

I (technically) work for a cell phone company. My plan is 1500 daytime minutes, 5 numbers that each line can call or receive call from for free, unlimited text and internet. The thing is that its designed to be a work phone so any calls after 8pm or on the weekends are billed at $.05/minute. I hardly ever make calls and my son never makes calls that late. Its worked out great up until now. Once I found out they were making calls on the nights and weekends, I added the night and weekends feature so this won't be a problem from here on out.

If they had only asked, I would have added that and this wouldn't be such an issue.
 
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: dbk
What about those phones where you can only dial like 5 numbers...
I remember Verizon had this before called the Migo.


Maybe too restrictive for your son?

He has an Ericsson 580i. Its his mp3 player, camera, video game platform...

I could have made every damn one of their calls free if I had known in advance. Why wouldn't you even call and ask?????

You broke up with her for a reason. I'd guess that one of those reasons is because she's an inconsiderate b****.

And I agree with others - the odds of you seeing any of that tax refund money are pretty low.

Just wait 'til you see the "special" pix she and her boyfriend have been taking with your son's phone...

Sorry, dude, this sucks. Good luck to you.
 
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