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BCYL

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To you, you are working for free...

To the company you are working for, even though they aren't paying you any salary, they probably still need to spend time training you, giving you access to their information etc... which means there's still a cost to them...
 

Scarpozzi

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If you work there, you're a liability. They still have to pay insurance on you...so you have to be on the books. Most places can't do it unless you hit a mom & pop shop somewhere.

I highly recommend working now because a graduate with no work experience has a hard time getting hired unless you're some kind of lab rat researcher.
 

bwatson283

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Originally posted by: DaiShan
I dunno, unless your trust fund is enough to live off for the rest of your life I don't understand why your parents object to you getting a job. It's really going to be difficult for you to get a job now. Education is important, but you just aren't going to get hired into a high paying job with no work experience and nothing more than a degree, and you'll be behind the curve starting out in entry level positions at 22 or 23. That being said, good for you for trying to get a job, but this is really the wrong way to go about it. You should apply for jobs that are in your field of study, perhaps go to your University's career resource center, they'll be able to help you at least get an interview for an Internship (with no work experience this is really the only thing that is going to get you a job making enough to live on, unless you plan on working for your family or something) Good luck to you. :thumbsup:


Very well said!
 

bwatson283

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Originally posted by: goku
To be honest, I've never worked a job before, you know why? Because I'm a trust fund baby, there I said it. :p Funny thing is, my parents don't want me to have a job. But I realize that I'll need a job to make it in this world (after college) and so this was my idea on getting a job I'd otherwise not likely get.

It's pretty simple, I tell the employer I'm basically free trial software, try me out for two weeks and if you like me, hire me, if you don't, then the internship is over. You'd basically do this for a job where they'd normally ask for something like in computers being A+ certified etc.

1. Have you ever heard of this.
2. Is this stupid?
3. Is it more than likely the employer would take advantage of this?
4. Is this just simply a bad idea?


Temp agency were created for this reason. Try getting jobs through a temp agency. Companies go to temp agencies and tell them to find someone that meets their needs and you will get paid less then average for the company you go to. Then if the company likes you after a few months, then they will hire you out and raise your pay. Temp agencies are like the trial software to companies.
 

2Dead

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Originally posted by: bwatson283
Originally posted by: goku
To be honest, I've never worked a job before, you know why? Because I'm a trust fund baby, there I said it. :p Funny thing is, my parents don't want me to have a job. But I realize that I'll need a job to make it in this world (after college) and so this was my idea on getting a job I'd otherwise not likely get.

It's pretty simple, I tell the employer I'm basically free trial software, try me out for two weeks and if you like me, hire me, if you don't, then the internship is over. You'd basically do this for a job where they'd normally ask for something like in computers being A+ certified etc.

1. Have you ever heard of this.
2. Is this stupid?
3. Is it more than likely the employer would take advantage of this?
4. Is this just simply a bad idea?


Temp agency were created for this reason. Try getting jobs through a temp agency. Companies go to temp agencies and tell them to find someone that meets their needs and you will get paid less then average for the company you go to. Then if the company likes you after a few months, then they will hire you out and raise your pay. Temp agencies are like the trial software to companies.

This does make sense and wouldn't be a bad way to go.

My sister (no pics, don't ask) was able to get into a major financial institution by basically saying "i'll be free this summer and looking to do an an internship (she's in college) and i'll help out where ever" to one of the managers and they were gonna go for it even though she wasn't supposed to outside of school but she was able to get it going by talking to the head of the finance department at her school (which she had classes with) and get an internship going. But unless you know someone who knows someone, i wouldn't go this route.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: Descartes
This is not a new concept. It's done a lot and it's successful for a lot of people; of course, not exactly the way you describe it.

People are hired on probationary periods quite a lot, but they still get paid. You're not going to find any company willing to assume your services for free. What you can likely find is someone willing to give you a chance, but even then these are going to be your small companies. What others have said about large companies is largely true, so don't count on that; however, if you know someone you might have the potential to get in under a contract for a probationary period, and I've seen that work successfuly on many occasions.

Still another way is to simply take an entry-level position anywhere in the company. Then network as much as possible, meet up with those in a position to make decisions in the groups you'd like to be in. You can often find ways to take on small projects in this manner that will give you credibility, and since you're already an employee there are fewer issues.

So, yes, it does work. I've seen it at small 20-employee companies and I've seen it with Fortune 100 companies. What it really comes down to is persistence, networking and a little social engineering. I found my way into MCI WorldCom while still in high school making $32k/yr doing something very similar, and it worked out extraordinarily well for me until they found out I wasn't 18.

Good luck.

:laugh:

Sorry, I just had a vision of Maeby from Arrested Development at the Hollywood studio.