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My i7 7700k Has Arrived - Insights, Benchies & Overclocks Inside (Now With Delid!)

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4.20Ghz stock? Smoking hot 😀

Being serious now, it will be interesting to see how this faces against the Ryzen 4c/8t SKUs next year.
 
yummi 😉

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Chrisch said:
yummi 😉

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What's your plan for these? If you like, I can post your results in the OP as it seems a lot of sites are monitoring this thread.

I think batch numbers and vital statistics (volts, temps, etc) when hitting 5Ghz will be of most interest to people.
 
Looks like intel screwed up the TIM real good again. Guess they dont think they need to learn from previous mistakes because they have such a market share advantage.
 
Rifter said:
Looks like intel screwed up the TIM real good again. Guess they dont think they need to learn from previous mistakes because they have such a market share advantage.
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The cynic in me believes Intel purposely did this to allow them to release a Devil's Canyon version should Zen get too close performance wise.

Looking at this through a business lens, Intel can release the 7700k and cause enough Internet chatter to take the focus (somewhat) away from Zen and then once Zen lands, Intel has the option to release a Devil's Canyon type 7700k to solidify their number 1 position over Zen.

Maybe, who knows.

There are loads of internet 'theories' over Intel's manufacturing process / rationale for the current TIM / IHS setup - it'd be nice to hear from an Intel engineer if there is a genuine technical reason for this.

One thing I would like to point out is it didn't appear the adhesive was raising the IHS. I should have taken some pics, but I could see a small gap between the IHS and PCB when i put the IHS on top of the naked die, so I believe this theory is false.
 
RichUK said:
The cynic in me believes Intel purposely did this to allow them to release a Devil's Canyon version should Zen get too close performance wise.

Looking at this through a business lens, Intel can release the 7700k and cause enough Internet chatter to take the focus (somewhat) away from Zen and then once Zen lands, Intel has the option to release a Devil's Canyon type 7700k to solidify their number 1 position over Zen.
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That won't happen. i7-7700k already clocks so high that another 100 or 200 Mhz increase won't really have an impact. It's 4 cores vs 8 cores after all. Not everything can be compensated with a high clock frequency.
 
mikk said:
That won't happen. i7-7700k already clocks so high that another 100 or 200 Mhz increase won't really have an impact. It's 4 cores vs 8 cores after all. Not everything can be compensated with a high clock frequency.
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Fair point, though I'm guessing only a relatively small user base we really benefit from more cores (this is probably me being ignorant) and therefore the majority of consumer tasks will still perform better on a 7700k+.
 
Chrisch said:
yummi 😉

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RichUK said:
Fair point, though I'm guessing only a relatively small user base we really benefit from more cores (this is probably me being ignorant) and therefore the majority of consumer tasks will still perform better on a 7700k+.
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Depends entirely on Zen's single core IPC, and single core boost levels. We haven't heard anything information about single thread performance yet, so impossible to judge. If it is Broadwell IPC, then Zen will crush any Intel quad core, though that's a massive if.
 
RichUK said:
The cynic in me believes Intel purposely did this to allow them to release a Devil's Canyon version should Zen get too close performance wise.

Looking at this through a business lens, Intel can release the 7700k and cause enough Internet chatter to take the focus (somewhat) away from Zen and then once Zen lands, Intel has the option to release a Devil's Canyon type 7700k to solidify their number 1 position over Zen.

Maybe, who knows.

There are loads of internet 'theories' over Intel's manufacturing process / rationale for the current TIM / IHS setup - it'd be nice to hear from an Intel engineer if there is a genuine technical reason for this.

One thing I would like to point out is it didn't appear the adhesive was raising the IHS. I should have taken some pics, but I could see a small gap between the IHS and PCB when i put the IHS on top of the naked die, so I believe this theory is false.
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The "devil's canyon" of which you speak will be Kaby Lake-X on the HEDT platform. Same Kaby Lake CPU die, but likely solder instead of the weaksauce thermal paste found on the mainstream chips.

The reason that the cheap-o paste is used is that the 7700k is fundamentally the same product as the lower end, locked SKUs, just binned and unlocked. They aren't going to do an entirely separate packaging job just for one SKU.
 
Arachnotronic said:
The "devil's canyon" of which you speak will be Kaby Lake-X on the HEDT platform. Same Kaby Lake CPU die, but likely solder instead of the weaksauce thermal paste found on the mainstream chips.

The reason that the cheap-o paste is used is that the 7700k is fundamentally the same product as the lower end, locked SKUs, just binned and unlocked. They aren't going to do an entirely separate packaging job just for one SKU.
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Ah, forgot about Kaby Lake-X.
 
Nice.

Is it likely my motherboard that is holding my memory back? It doesn't matter whether i up the volts (VCCIO/SA, DRAM) or not, it's just not very stable over 2800?
 
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