my home theater

[ThisIsMatt]

Flat response is good in that every frequency will have the same volume, but in reality you probably like your music with a little more oomph in the lows and maybe highs, just as a preference. This, plus the fact that you will have different response curves in different rooms makes things more difficult. Yes, you can get a calibration mic and whatever accompanying equipment to EQ the response curve to suit your room, but this is getting rather extreme unless you're creating a dedicated theater room for instance. Some commercial receivers even come with a mic and built in calibration electronics to do it for you, the Pioneer 1014 for example is a great budget receiver that does.

 

[Kaido]

is it better to have a short rolloff or a long rolloff?

 

[ThisIsMatt]

Originally posted by: Kaido
is it better to have a short rolloff or a long rolloff?

If you're talking about the low end roll off of a sub, then it just matters if you're getting the response you want. If the roll off is sharp, but doesn't occur until 15hz then who cares, you won't be playing anything below 15hz anyways. If you're talking about the rolloff of a tweeter with a mid, then usually you want the slope of the roll off of the midrange to match it, so that they produce a resulting flat response.

 

[cerebusPu]

a good education here. Im building my first home theater too.

Im testing two projectors at the moment and cant decide between a screenplay 4805 or the sanyo z2/z3.
Ive selected my audio components already. Since Im not an audiophile Im just going to get the fluance speakers, a sub, and the HK135 receiver .

the biggest problem is i dont have enough seats! No...wait. The biggest problem is i dont know enough bitches to invite to my movie nights. (being out of college has its cons)

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: cerebusPu
a good education here. Im building my first home theater too.

Im testing two projectors at the moment and cant decide between a screenplay 4805 or the sanyo z2/z3.
Ive selected my audio components already. Since Im not an audiophile Im just going to get the fluance speakers, a sub, and the HK135 receiver .

check out the Optoma EzPro745 over at Tiger Direct (I know, I know). It's a rebadged EzPro739. I have one and it's awesome!

And if you don't have a screen yet, check out the one on ebay going for around $23. Just type in "projector screen" and click on one of the listings that says 110" screen.

 

[cerebusPu]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: cerebusPu
a good education here. Im building my first home theater too.

Im testing two projectors at the moment and cant decide between a screenplay 4805 or the sanyo z2/z3.
Ive selected my audio components already. Since Im not an audiophile Im just going to get the fluance speakers, a sub, and the HK135 receiver .

check out the Optoma EzPro745 over at Tiger Direct (I know, I know). It's a rebadged EzPro739. I have one and it's awesome!

And if you don't have a screen yet, check out the one on ebay going for around $23. Just type in "projector screen" and click on one of the listings that says 110" screen.

nice..DLP with 1024 x 768 resolution. thats what i was looking for. i may not go with a homemade screen though. my woodworking skills arent so great.

 

[MikeMike]

i have to admit this happens to be one of the best audio related threads we have had here.

MIKE

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: cerebusPu
a good education here. Im building my first home theater too.

Im testing two projectors at the moment and cant decide between a screenplay 4805 or the sanyo z2/z3.
Ive selected my audio components already. Since Im not an audiophile Im just going to get the fluance speakers, a sub, and the HK135 receiver .

the biggest problem is i dont have enough seats! No...wait. The biggest problem is i dont know enough bitches to invite to my movie nights. (being out of college has its cons)

Wow, your setup is going to be close to mine if you go with the 4805 🙂. I went with a refurbished HK AVR-325, got it for $350 shipped.
What kind of sub did you get? I started with a Dayton Tiny Mighty and then bumped up to the SVS I have now.

 

[Goosemaster]

Mine


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video:
Display: Dell 2001fp 🙁

Audio:
Onkyo tx-sr600
Mirage Frx-5's
Athena psb-400 10''
Optical carrier

Comp:
9800pro Output via DVI
output via toslink
MASSIVE HD space for Hidef recordings

 

[Kaido]

Which calibration disc should I get, DVE or Avia? I want one I can use for both home theater and hi-fi.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Mine


angle 1
angle 2
angle 3
angle 4


video:
Display: Dell 2001fp 🙁

Audio:
Onkyo tx-sr600
Mirage Frx-5's
Athena psb-400 10''
Optical carrier

Comp:
9800pro Output via DVI
output via toslink
MASSIVE HD space for Hidef recordings

what do you mean, 🙁 @ your Dell? the picture quality on that is probably terrific and the size is probably bigger than my tv! 😀

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Kaido
Which calibration disc should I get, DVE or Avia? I want one I can use for both home theater and hi-fi.

I think the main benefits of the discs are to
1. calitbrate your video devices
2. get all your speaker levels at the correct volume compared to each other
3. get your sub at the correct level compared to the speakers

None of those would really apply to your dayton stereo system with integrated amp.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Mine


angle 1
angle 2
angle 3
angle 4


video:
Display: Dell 2001fp 🙁

Audio:
Onkyo tx-sr600
Mirage Frx-5's
Athena psb-400 10''
Optical carrier

Comp:
9800pro Output via DVI
output via toslink
MASSIVE HD space for Hidef recordings

what do you mean, 🙁 @ your Dell? the picture quality on that is probably terrific and the size is probably bigger than my tv! 😀

I will forever long for something more...the blacks suck🙁

 

[vshah]

for HT just a yamaha HTIB + panny ae700u
for music
Bowers & Wilkins Matrix 802 Series 2s
Nad 2600preamp/tuner
Nad 1700 power amplifier
Nad 5000 compact disc player
Nakamichi Dragon tape deck

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: vshah
for HT just a yamaha HTIB + panny ae700u
for music
Bowers & Wilkins Matrix 802 Series 2s
Nad 2600preamp/tuner
Nad 1700 power amplifier
Nad 5000 compact disc player
Nakamichi Dragon tape deck

"just?" :|

 

[vshah]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: vshah
for HT just a yamaha HTIB + panny ae700u
for music
Bowers & Wilkins Matrix 802 Series 2s
Nad 2600preamp/tuner
Nad 1700 power amplifier
Nad 5000 compact disc player
Nakamichi Dragon tape deck

"just?" :|

the audio part of it is "just" eventually i will integrate the two, but that will require a reciever capable of replacing the Nads for music, and rear speakers that can match well with the 802s

 

[Kaido]

on another note, I was thinking about subwoofers today.

let's say I were to get an SVS cylinder subwoofer and stick it in a corner. what would the advantage be of adding a second one, in the corner across from it?

also, is it better to get a passive sub with a good amp, such as the CS Plus and Samson 500w x 2, or a powered amp, such as the PC Plus?

 

[ThisIsMatt]

Two would give you more output, and even though sub bass frequencies should be unidirectional, often times this isn't the case (especially if you have the sub near a wall or other objects that vibrate/rattle).

For flexibility an external amp is the better choice (upgradability, don't have to have an outlet by the sub, etc), but built in plate amps are less cluttering sometimes and more portable with the sub. Typically, though, an amp will outlast any sub due to upgraditis if you get a good one.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Kaido
on another note, I was thinking about subwoofers today.

let's say I were to get an SVS cylinder subwoofer and stick it in a corner. what would the advantage be of adding a second one, in the corner across from it?

also, is it better to get a passive sub with a good amp, such as the CS Plus and Samson 500w x 2, or a powered amp, such as the PC Plus?

Piece of advice #1: send an e-mail to SVS. Ron and Tom are great. They'll answer all your sub questions and they really know their stuff.

Ok... the advantage of adding a second sub is you'll get more output from it. I think it's 6dB more max output when you go from single to dual. (It's either 6 or 3, but I think it's 6).

A drawback to this is that it's a lot more difficult to place two subs and get a good response throughout the room and with a single. If you don't spend time on it, they can end up cancelling each other out in some places. If you get it right though, you'll have a lot more headroom.

Co-locating them can be a good idea as it seems to minimize the canceling effects (so I've read)

Ask SVS on the CS vs PC choice, I don't know.

 

[EvilYoda]

Originally posted by: vshah

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: vshah
for HT just a yamaha HTIB + panny ae700u
for music
Bowers & Wilkins Matrix 802 Series 2s
Nad 2600preamp/tuner
Nad 1700 power amplifier
Nad 5000 compact disc player
Nakamichi Dragon tape deck

"just?" :|

the audio part of it is "just" eventually i will integrate the two, but that will require a reciever capable of replacing the Nads for music, and rear speakers that can match well with the 802s

nice, 802s...a little old but still a great sound. I want to upgrade to the new Signature 805s, but my bookshelf comparison still isn't even close to finishing yet...sadly.

 

[Kaido]

okay, I need a suggestion. my bros are going to pool up some $$ for my wedding gift and hook me up with a better tv (yay, lol). under $250, 27" or less, flat front screen (non-bubble), component inputs. is it possible and which model should I choose? we're registered at Target.