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My goodness. Three Maxtors dead with same problem.

amdhunter

Lifer
I may file a complaint with the BBB over this.

Over the course of about 1 1/2 years, I have had 3 Maxtor drives fail in different PCs. These PC's are powered on 24/7 and are run in a relatively clean enviornment, and with decent airflow.

Here is my problem, of all the hard drives I own, I have had 2 Maxtor brand HDD die the same EXACT death. Here are the errors of 2 of them, 120GB and 160GB respectively.

The device 'Maxtor 6Y120P0' (IDE\DiskMaxtor_6Y120P0__________________________YAR41BW0\335936323650453520202
202020202020202020) disappeared from the system without first being prepared for removal.

The device 'Maxtor 6Y160P0' (IDE\DiskMaxtor_6Y120P0__________________________YAR41BW0\335936323650453520202
202020202020202020)(IDE\DiskMaxtor_6Y160P0__________________________YAR41BW0\345947335337454720202
202020202020202020) disappeared from the system without first being prepared for removal.

The 3rd drive has no issues detecting, but has developed a weird problem where the transfer rate never exceeds 8MB/s, although ATA100 mode is enabled and functioning. This drive is 20GB and runs a small fileserver.

Now, I know harddrives go bad, but it seems that Maxtor drives in general tend to die right when warranty is over. This has got me pissed as hell, since I now have 300GB worth of doorstops.

These drives appear to be in brand new condition, even after being used all this time. Are Maxtors made not to run in a 24/7 enviornment? All of these models have the suffix "YAR41BW0" at the end.

Are there any websites or has anyone seen information regarding the failure rates of these drives..?
 
With one exception that I know of, all SATA & PATA drives are not made to run 24/7. theya re rated and tested for 10 hours a day.
 
Originally posted by: acemcmac
NEVER had a maxtor fail, knock on wood. Owned half a dozen aquired through various means (oem in macs, retail, etc)

I concur :beer:

Sorry to hear that amdhunter 🙁
 
Do you have the hard drives set to shut down if they are not used after so many minutes?

desktop hard drives are not meant to be used in a server style enviroment. So running them full speed for a year will probable put a hurt on their life span. Mind you some will last longer some less. But in your case, it seems to be less.

<--- has a 4 year old maxtor drive still running in grandmothers system. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Evadman
With one exception that I know of, all SATA & PATA drives are not made to run 24/7. theya re rated and tested for 10 hours a day.

I thought IBM was the only manufacturer that claimed this. And the MTBF on these drives are like a million hours or so. I am looking for the exact amount now.
 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Do you have the hard drives set to shut down if they are not used after so many minutes?

desktop hard drives are not meant to be used in a server style enviroment. So running them full speed for a year will probable put a hurt on their life span. Mind you some will last longer some less. But in your case, it seems to be less.

<--- has a 4 year old maxtor drive still running in grandmothers system. 🙂

I had 2 Seagate ATA66 drives running for 3 years, and an old Mode 4 IBM drive running daily since June 1997. Also, no they are not set to shut down. They have been running about a year straight non-stop.
 
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: Evadman
With one exception that I know of, all SATA & PATA drives are not made to run 24/7. theya re rated and tested for 10 hours a day.

I thought IBM was the only manufacturer that claimed this. And the MTBF on these drives are like a million hours or so. I am looking for the exact amount now.

LOL..... I have never had an IBM last longer than 6 months without some form of critical error..... and I've been through about 8 of 'em
 
Originally posted by: amdhunter
And the MTBF on these drives are like a million hours or so. I am looking for the exact amount now.

What in the world are you talking about. SCSI drives are usually around 400k hours, which is over 60 years. Are you telling me that IBM drives have a mean time to failure of 115 years? Do you have any idea how idiotic that suonds?

<edit>
of course, spelling errors are bad too.
 
I've been running a couple of Maxtor 80gb drives for well over two years, 24/7... haven't had any problem with them yet. I'm also running a Seagate 160gb external drive 24/7... I've probably been using it for about a year now. I also have a 10gb Maxtor (from a Compaq machine) that was made in '99, and it's ran nearly 24/7 since the day it was bought (except that I took it offline for about a year, but now it's back in service, chugging along as ususal.

Also have a couple of Hitachi SATA drives... one 80gb, one 160gb, both of them ran for about a year 24/7 until my mobo died... I powered them back up in another machine, and was getting constant errors, but later determined that to be the SATA controller I was using. I'm still trying to find a cheap reliable SATA controller to put those two drives back in service.
 
Originally posted by: NuroMancer
Ya that seems wierd. Test em in a different system?

These drives sat on physically different systems across their lifetime. They all dissapear the same on any PC I connect it to. Not right away, but it usually disappears within an hour or so.

Cables/Controllers make no difference.
 
Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: amdhunter
And the MTBF on these drives are like a million hours or so. I am looking for the exact amount now.

What in the world are you talking about. SCSI drives are usually around 400k hours, which is over 60 years. Are you telling me that IBM drives have a mean time to failure of 115 years? Do you have any idea how idiotic that suonds?

<edit>
of course, spelling errors are bad too.

Hate to correct but,
A normal year has 24* 365 hours (8760 hours)
400,000 / 8760 = 45 years not 60
You got the "supposed" life of the ATA drives right tho 😀😀
 
Originally posted by: NuroMancer
Originally posted by: Evadman
What in the world are you talking about. SCSI drives are usually around 400k hours, which is over 60 years. Are you telling me that IBM drives have a mean time to failure of 115 years? Do you have any idea how idiotic that suonds?

Hate to correct but,
A normal year has 24* 365 hours (8760 hours)
400,000 / 8760 = 45 years not 60
You got the "supposed" life of the ATA drives right tho 😀😀

I was doing it in my head. If this were in the right foum I would have busted out the calculator, and alo explaned that the testing is usually done on lots of 500 to 1000 drives. So if you have 1000 drives running 24/7 for 1000 hours (~40 days) and one of them fails at 1001 hours, then that counts as 1,000,000 hour MTBF. But this is OT, so I didn't feel like explaining or doing anything close to actual math 😀
 
we had three die as well and one was the back hard drive of one of the ones that died.
Its safe to say my office is now anti maxtor.
 
I just lost the exact same 160GB model 🙁 Replaced it w/a Seagate.

I have a Maxtor 60GB drive from the athlon thunderbird days....that's still kicking.
 
BTW, I have used Maxtor's, WD's and Segate drives, and have not had a higher failure rate with any 1 brand over another. I can say that I used to use may more Maxtor's than anything else, but now I really only buy Seagate's bcause of the 5 year warranty. IIRC, I have only had 2 drives fail in warranty, a maxtor and a WD, and I run them 24/7. the computer I am on now has a 120 WD in it, and I got it when 120 was max. What is that, 3 years ago? I don't feel like dissassembling this to check it.
 
I ordered a batch of 25 Dell Optiplex GX260's. They shipped with the half height DiamondMax 80gig HD's. I had 10 of the 25 go down with drive failures within a couple month span, about a year into the life of the machine. It was like clockwork. Get one replaced. Another would die. Replace that, then another would die. Rinse and repeat x 8.

Not cool.
 
Topic Title: My goodness. Three Maxtors dead with same problem.
Topic Summary: Are Maxtors programmed to die after a year..?
Created On: 08/10/2005 01:32 PM

Originally posted by: amdhunter
I may file a complaint with the BBB over this.

I refuse to read beyond this point.

End yourself or buy a different brand. Good god, do you not understand that hard drives fail? Entire "batches" of HDDs get borked. That's what the warranty is for. If it's outside of warranty, cry me a frickin river. Hardware dies. Period.
 
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