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CRT for gaming, I'd assume?

Get a 6800GT (pci) and OC it to Ultra speeds, upgrade to another 6800GT later and then you have 2x the performance, save you a little money 🙂
 
im laughing over here to myself thinking kids these days sure are stubborn...first comment i said get the nvidia 6800gt, i didnt explain why i told him to do his OWN research since i figured he'd only believe himself, now three pages later he's finally grasping at a clue and otis your posts made me laugh

 
ok
1. get a CRT with low responce times, less or equal to 16ms
2. make sure you get a motherboard with SLI
3. Get an SLI Nvidia Graphics card either the 6800GT on PIC-E or a 6800GT Ultra on PCI-E.

Latter when the time comes you can get another SLI 6800GT or Ultra and use two video cards.

you just have to make sure that both video cards have SLI support and are the same card and you have it done.
 
My only real recomendation is really what everyone else is saying. If your getting an Nforce 4 board then u need to get an nvidia graphics card. The only game right now that ati cards are optimized for is half life 2. Other then that the nvidia cards work a bit better. But i mean if your getting an Nforce 4 board with sli then you would want to leave the door open for upgrading to two graphics cards. Most reviews ive read put the 6800gt ahead of the x800pro. If you buy the ati card iam sure youll be happy with it but for future upgrades you will want an nvidia card so you can take advantage of the wonders of SLI when it gets into your price range. Hope this helps and good luck with everything you buy.
 
what do you guys think of getting a the 6800gt that oc to ultra when i want to. than when the R500 comes out i get that i am sure the R500 is going to pwn. when will it be coming out i heard 2005.
 
Originally posted by: w00t
i have nothing against nvidia i just would rather have a x800xt.
age :15 by the way but i dont see why that matters.
i like them to give me advice i was gonna get 2 raptor drives on raid 0 until mik3y saved me 170 somthing dollars.
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Why are we arguying ATI vs. Nvidia? Anyone who has done any type of research knows that overall X800XT is faster than 6800Ultra/GT.

Otherwise good config.

EDIT:
If I was in your shoes, I'd get 6800GT but not because it's faster than X800xt (because it's not) but for these reasons:

x800pro isnt guaranteed to mod into x800xt
get 6800gt pci => this gives you the choice of SLI later, you can overclock it to Ultra speeds without doing any hard mod that is probably going to be required for x800pro.
x800pro vivo costs a lot more than regular x800pro, might as well just get x800xt right away.

But if X800xt and 6800GT PCIe cost the same and you arent planning to upgrade in the near future, get X800xt because it's faster in shader intensive games. But to me, SLI 6800GT is an attractive option. Also if you are planning to upgrade to R500/NV50, then really it makes no difference if you get X800pro/6800gt/x800xt because that'll be replaced in 6 months so don't give yourself too many headaches.

Look at the games you like to play. If it's UT2K4, Perimeter, HL2, Far Cry, then x800xt will be surely faster. Also the difference in performance isn't going to be night and day, maybe a difference in resolution or an image quality setting or so.

See I am not sure what the price of 6800GT PCIe and X800Pro PCIe and X800xt PCIe is, so it is difficult to recommend the best choice. Also it'd be better if u asked this question when Nforce 4 becomes available, since by that time refresh products for x800 and 6800 will have come out and prices will change on current cards. So situation might change in 1 month's time. Also don't forget that dual-sli nforce 4 mobo will cost $50 more than regular Nforce 4 ultra board. This is something to consider if you'd rather spend $400 US on R500 (for new feature set, etc) in 6 months, as opposed to buying an extra 6800GT.

 
Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Originally posted by: w00t
i have nothing against nvidia i just would rather have a x800xt.
age :15 by the way but i dont see why that matters.
i like them to give me advice i was gonna get 2 raptor drives on raid 0 until mik3y saved me 170 somthing dollars.
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Why are we arguying ATI vs. Nvidia? Anyone who has done any type of research knows that overall X800XT is faster than 6800Ultra/GT.

The problem is modding X800Pro into X800xt is not guaranteed.

Otherwise good config.
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so you are saying nvidia 6 series still doesnt look as good as ati's x800xt
 
Originally posted by: w00t
Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Originally posted by: w00t
i have nothing against nvidia i just would rather have a x800xt.
age :15 by the way but i dont see why that matters.
i like them to give me advice i was gonna get 2 raptor drives on raid 0 until mik3y saved me 170 somthing dollars.
Click to expand...

Why are we arguying ATI vs. Nvidia? Anyone who has done any type of research knows that overall X800XT is faster than 6800Ultra/GT.

The problem is modding X800Pro into X800xt is not guaranteed.

Otherwise good config.
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so you are saying nvidia 6 series still doesnt look as good as ati's x800xt
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Read my edited response above.
 
Originally posted by: aixenv
im laughing over here to myself thinking kids these days sure are stubborn...first comment i said get the nvidia 6800gt, i didnt explain why i told him to do his OWN research since i figured he'd only believe himself, now three pages later he's finally grasping at a clue and otis your posts made me laugh
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hope it was my humor ur laughin at.....

i wish to remain unbiasd towards either company

i have a 6800gt and im happy as larry with it

if u can find a x800xt for a good price then its def a faster card than even the 6800ultra, again its jus lacking in hardware features in comparison to nivida 6800
 
just out of curiosity who is paying for all this? i mean 6800gt/x800pro/x800xt aitn cheap, NF4 mobo wont be cheap infact nothing in ur list is what id consider cheap for a 15 yr old
 
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

if u can find a x800xt for a good price then its def a faster card than even the 6800ultra, again its jus lacking in hardware features in comparison to nivida 6800
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As a side note, what features is it lacking exactly? Lets analyze

A video processor that doesnt work.

PS3.0 vs. PS2.0b that brings nothing to the table since the maximum instruction size in a game has yet to exceed 100 lines

....but oh yes! High-Dynamic Range lighting...which is, lets be frank about it - Unusuable - on today's nvidia cards.

So again what feature set where you talking about exactly?

Now add to the fact that X800xt supports HDTV, has some untapped potential of 3Dc (patch for HL2 perhaps), has better quality DVI-compliant connectors on board - Link, has a quieter fan, dissipates less heat, and requires a less powerful power supply, and things really start to turn away against Nvidia don't they? The answer would be yes, if 6800GT didnt cost $100-150 less while losing only 15-20% in performance.
 
in response to mr russiansensationlol yeh video proc is bust.....kinda disapointed bout that, but havent they fixed it in pci-e versions?

we havent seen mass sm3 yet....so hold ur horses right there, ill admit the farcry HDR implentation sucked, but whats that? it couldnt even be done on the ati hardware. ill give u a valid comment tho coz crytek didnt need to do it the daft movie precision way, excluding ati users from a graphical enhance ment was wrong.

an im now gonna have to agree with u on the DVI issue too i jus saw an aritcle at toms and ati have stellar DVI output, and nvidia an their way of producing dvi signal on a sperate chip didnt look to good. but my only gripe is they tested asus and gigabyte against MSI who arent know to always deliver quality

but the issue i was putting across is that the 6800gt is for the most part better than the x800pro, so i say save money n get the gt, but if he wants to spend bit more. then yes russian i wll agree with you that ATI X800XT is much better than the 6800ultra/gt in terms of shear performance....ati drivers still stink tho

but in the large scheme of things......no matter what u buy ur gonna enjoy it, the level of performance of the new cards is staggering. i am jus thinking he is 15 and unlikly to upgrade 6 months later...hence i suggest the *POSSIBLY* more future proof 6800 series
 
russian u have to agree that the 6800gt makes more sense than a x800pro right now....but its thw other way round if hes looking at x800xt/6800ultra

also ati's refresh products are just around the corner....maybe seen as u waiting for NF4, u might as well see what ATI's speed bumpped cards are like before buying any card
 
tell you what woul dmake more sense

if he is wanting a nf4 or even the ati chipset, hes gonna be waiting, w00t why not right, wait on the graphics front, refresh products are just round the corner so the ati vs nvidia scenario may change depending on what is brought to the table by each company

ati have the x850 series out next, (where are they with r500?) but i have no idea what nvidia are coming up with, probably just a speed bump, if thats at all possible with 222million transistors roasting away
 
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
just out of curiosity who is paying for all this? i mean 6800gt/x800pro/x800xt aitn cheap, NF4 mobo wont be cheap infact nothing in ur list is what id consider cheap for a 15 yr old
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ive wanted a new computer for along time i saved alot of money.
 
if i was ever going to get the x800pro i was going to flash. i decided to wait alot of people said new stuff will be coming out so i decided to stay with my 13fps for a bit longer.
 
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
russian u have to agree that the 6800gt makes more sense than a x800pro right now....but its thw other way round if hes looking at x800xt/6800ultra

also ati's refresh products are just around the corner....maybe seen as u waiting for NF4, u might as well see what ATI's speed bumpped cards are like before buying any card
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Most definately agree with everything you've said (except for feature set advantage). I even pointed out that I would personally get 6800GT since X800pro isn't guaranteed to become x800xt (of course if he were to buy 2 cards where the price of x800xt = 6800GT, then I'd get x800xt). Also since 6800GT costs almost $100 less than X800XT on pricewatch, it's an even more valid reason to go for it.

yeah if you are willing to wait, there is a possibility the prices on current cards will come down a bit as the new refresh products will occupy their current price brackets (at least that's the theory).
 
Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
in response to mr russiansensationlol
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hey, I made the name when I was still a kid, give me some slack will ya? 😀
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rofl ok i will wait and wait and wait and wait. i have perfected my syteam my waiting if i woulda bought when i 1st started i woulda had stuff that wasnt that good but thanks to my friends and these forums my 1st built computer is going to be a nice one.
 
woot- just get what you can afford now. If you wait for the next best thing, you will always be waiting
 
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