My friend got fired for a crappy reason

[eleison]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
while i agree with you that the boss was wrong to fire your friend, your friend shouldn't have mentioned it.

meh, why not?

The boss made it clear to him that it was a recreational thing only and that it would not be tolerated on the job as they are usually working at clients houses.

if its not tolerated, its not tolerated. shouldn't he be setting the example?

Yes, the example is this: if you are a boss and someone calls you out for doing mj, you can fire him

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
shouldn't your buddy have some sort of legal recourse?

yeah, I can see this leading some place good for all those involved including your pot head friend.

 

[Goosemaster]

Simple.

A lot of people out there are small-minded and losing credibility to their subordinates is unacceptable. Boss had lost all credibility at this point, so he had to fire the guy.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Sphexi
Let people know why he got fired, specifically customers. If that's how the guy runs his business, I wouldn't want him working for me. I have no problem with people getting high now and then, or every day even. But if they're coming to my house and getting paid to do work, they better be sober while they do it.

BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD IDEA.

Unless the OP's friend has undeniable proof that will stand up in a court of law, he's going to get absolutely slammed on slander and libel charges (depending on how he spreads the information).

 

[Amused]

The real question here is, why on earth would your friend WANT to work for a guy like that?

He should be thankful he no longer works for him. I would be. In fact, I would have walked out the minute he started yelling at me.

Trust me folks, NEVER let anyone yell at you. Abuse only gets worse.

 

[ebaycj]

Calling out your boss = bad idea.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: ebaycj
Calling out your boss = bad idea.

BINGO! What a stupid mistake.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Jeeebus
Calling the boss out on his hypocrisy = not a good idea.

My thoughts exactly. What did he hope to gain by doing that?

Yup. That was stupid. Bosses are allowed to be hypocrites, especially in a small operation like that.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
while i agree with you that the boss was wrong to fire your friend, your friend shouldn't have mentioned it.

meh, why not?

to avoid being fired?

why didn't you quote the rest of my post?

b/c it was not relevant.

 

[Vic]

Some seriously poor judgement exercised by your friend all around. I recommend he just kick back with his unenjoyment checks and a 4 footer loaded with some chronic.

 

[BillyBatson]

this is also why you should never get too close to co-workers and especially the boss and when you guys do hang outside of work even if you do something like smoke weed and your boss is there smoking weed you shouldn't join in you let them do their thing and you sit back that way nothign could come back to you ever and you hold all the cards if somethign dumb liek this does happen

 

[JDMnAR1]

Let's always remember boys and girls, the boss ALWAYS gets to make the rules, and quite frequently will have two (or more) sets to apply as he sees fit. "Do as I say, not as I do" definitely applies here. That doesn't make it right/fair/legal, but unless you have deep pockets or can convince the EEOC to take up your case, there's not a whole heck of a lot you can do about it.

 

[MasonLuke]

i would fire his ass too. that was very uncool to mention the drug thing.

 

[Anghang]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Simple.

A lot of people out there are small-minded and losing credibility to their subordinates is unacceptable. Boss had lost all credibility at this point, so he had to fire the guy.

:thumbsup:

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
while i agree with you that the boss was wrong to fire your friend, your friend shouldn't have mentioned it.

meh, why not?

to avoid being fired?

why didn't you quote the rest of my post?

b/c it was not relevant.

yes it was

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: Jeeebus
Working at a place where your boss smokes weed on the job = not a good idea.

Fixed

 

[ForumMaster]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
while i agree with you that the boss was wrong to fire your friend, your friend shouldn't have mentioned it.

meh, why not?

The boss made it clear to him that it was a recreational thing only and that it would not be tolerated on the job as they are usually working at clients houses.

if its not tolerated, its not tolerated. shouldn't he be setting the example?

i'm not saying the guy was wrong in confronting the boss but especially since it sounds like the boss might have been high, it was bound to get him fired.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: ForumMaster

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
while i agree with you that the boss was wrong to fire your friend, your friend shouldn't have mentioned it.

meh, why not?

The boss made it clear to him that it was a recreational thing only and that it would not be tolerated on the job as they are usually working at clients houses.

if its not tolerated, its not tolerated. shouldn't he be setting the example?

i'm not saying the guy was wrong in confronting the boss but especially since it sounds like the boss might have been high, it was bound to get him fired.

the boss had every right to fire him. i'm just saying that if someone told me that so and so wasn't tolerated and then did what wasn't tolerated, i'd confront them about it. how was he supposed to know he'd get fired? sure, doing this while the boss was pissed off was dumb, but later on shoudn't have been a problem.

 

[dmw16]

smoking weed w/ boss = really bad idea.

i feel for your friend, but he really has no leg to stand on at this point.

 

[ForumMaster]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: ForumMaster

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
while i agree with you that the boss was wrong to fire your friend, your friend shouldn't have mentioned it.

meh, why not?

The boss made it clear to him that it was a recreational thing only and that it would not be tolerated on the job as they are usually working at clients houses.

if its not tolerated, its not tolerated. shouldn't he be setting the example?

i'm not saying the guy was wrong in confronting the boss but especially since it sounds like the boss might have been high, it was bound to get him fired.

the boss had every right to fire him. i'm just saying that if someone told me that so and so wasn't tolerated and then did what wasn't tolerated, i'd confront them about it. how was he supposed to know he'd get fired? sure, doing this while the boss was pissed off was dumb, but later on shoudn't have been a problem.

:thumbsup: yeah i agree. he might have been able to get away with it had he done it later at a different time when his boss wasn't high/tense.

 

[AMCRambler]

Yeah, you'll get no argument that it was stupid from me. Even stupider is that he smokes. I guess he had good reason to think that the boss had toked up. He found the bosses pipe, looked like it had been recently used(I've never smoked, so I have no clue how you can tell, but I guess you can) and after having his ass chewed for something that the boss screwed up probably so the boss could save face in front of the customer, he got ticked. Next time he'll definitely think twice before bringing it up. However I think that the boss has blamed him for othe screw ups in the past in the same way. Over all him not working there is the best thing that could happen. And I will be sure that anybody looking for chimney work/stove installation does not go to that place for it. I know I wouldn't want some stoner anywhere near my roof or chimney.

 

[pontifex]

whats funny is that everyone on this forum is all "stand up for yourself" all the time and then this thread comes along and its like "whoa, no way, take it like a bitch"

 

[dman]

How hard is it to get into the chimney sweep business? Maybe your friend should incorporate and cut out the middle man.

 

[FoBoT]

:laugh:

 

[AMCRambler]

Originally posted by: dman
How hard is it to get into the chimney sweep business? Maybe your friend should incorporate and cut out the middle man.

He's got a certification and everything. The guy made sure they all got trained and certified which was pretty cool of him. However there are a lot of tools needed to do the jobs and my friend could not afford to purchase them nor is his credit good enough that he could start his own business. Not to mention he's currently without transportation.