My first Warcraft 3 map...test it please :) (not simple deathmatch, has scripted events)...final version

kami

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It's LOTR-based (surprise, surprise)...you get to command the heroes Aragorn, Gandalf, and Gimli and they are very powerful. Using your heroes well is key to winning this one I think. Your workers can't build much because I want it to be combat focused and nothing else. Most of the units used in the game are modified, the enemies get harder and harder, etc.

I want to see if it crashes on any machines. It did once on mine but I fixed the problem (on my machine anyway). It's 1 player vs. the computer only BTW, but i may change that in the future. Oh and it's like an alpha release, so don't mock me if it sucks k? :p

--edit---

you can get the map here now.
 

kami

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Oh yeah, it is a 30 minute game. Please let me know if you think it's too hard or too easy, etc..
 

Alex

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wow dude!! is the game out yet?? gosh darnit!!!

ok well since i dont even own the game yet and, as such, can't be usefull to ya i'll give ya this free bump to compensate :p
 

Martin

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the map is very nice, but I was brutally slaughtered. ouch.

I think you should give the player more time before the first attack, after all, aragorn had at least some soldiers with him when the battle began...
 

kami

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Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
the map is very nice, but I was brutally slaughtered. ouch.

I think you should give the player more time before the first attack, after all, aragorn had at least some soldiers with him when the battle began...

Well, I thought of that...BUT the heroes can take care of the first two waves on their own pretty much. Gimli might die if you don't give him any attention, but gandalf can summon that water creature and stuff like that. How long did it take before you were slaughtered? Did you make to to the Chaos Uruk Hai guys?? There was 3 levels of the regular orcs...grunts (at the beginning), then uruk hai, then chaos uruk hai...and of course all the other types.

I am trying to figure out how to put a visible countdown timer in place but I don't know how yet.

thanks for trying it :D

 

kami

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OK...now the first time i was making this, the opening was very small (more realistic) and there was a gate...however, i couldn't get the enemies to bash the gate open :( You can only make neutral gates, not one for a specific team. It was cool this way cause you could have archers lined up on the top of the wall...but then when i took the gate out, it was too easy cause all the enemies would congregate in the little opening and couldn't move anywhere since your guys were on them...with this bigger opening they are able to get by. I think I tweaked it to a point where even I can lose sometimes (even though i know exactly what's going to happen), but I found archers help a lot..there is little ramps that they can go up, and they only take up 1 food each, whereas the riders take up 4 food! Archers are pretty deadly in groups.

i think this would also be cool if you had maybe 3 teams on a huge wall, and orcs would attack all different positions. Lotta work though!
 

FrogDog

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I'll try it...

I'll report back when I'm done!

Edit - Oh shoot I forgot I can't right now, my CPU is tied up in encoding stuff. Later though!
 

kami

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OK there's a new version up. this time I made more places for placing archers (out of reach of melee attackers), I changed a few timing things, and you start off with two extra Riders of the Mark to make the first waves easier. Oh, and there's also a new unit (Elite Archer)
 

nirgis

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I played it and died, but got pretty far I think to the chaos taurens. A few waves after the hero rush. I think it is a good map, a fun becasue it is so different than normal War 3. I probably should/could have gotten a larger gold stream going -- I had two barracks continuously pumping. A suggestion: Gandalf is far more powerful than the other two since he can continuously cast blizzard. Aragorn was the weakest in my opinion. I will play again to see if I can beat it. Can it be beaten?
 

kami

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Originally posted by: nirgis
I played it and died, but got pretty far I think to the chaos taurens. A few waves after the hero rush. I think it is a good map, a fun becasue it is so different than normal War 3. I probably should/could have gotten a larger gold stream going -- I had two barracks continuously pumping. A suggestion: Gandalf is far more powerful than the other two since he can continuously cast blizzard. Aragorn was the weakest in my opinion. I will play again to see if I can beat it. Can it be beaten?
Thanks for trying! Yes it can be beaten...if you survive long enough the Ents come and help you. They come and then you can control them. They are very powerful.

You think Aragorn's the weakest? Hmm...I always thought Gimli was. Aragorn can put on his divine shield, plus he can heal other units (600 hit points at a time) and he can raise 6 units from the dead to full health. If any of my heroes die, it has always been Gimli first.

So you think Gandalf is too powerful? He should be more powerful than the other two obviously, so should all the heroes be weakened?

 

nirgis

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Ok I retract that. But Aragorn can heal Gimli, but not vice versa. Plus Gimli has his avatar ultimate. A timer like you suggested would make it much better, I agree
 

zzzz

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I survived until the chaos headhunters and uruk taurens showed up btw
 

kami

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Originally posted by: zzzz
summon more ziggerot? its not undead!!

You probably had the races set to random. I have it specified as human, but it will still allow random for some reason. You can set to human if you want the human voices.
survived until the chaos headhunters and uruk taurens showed up btw
Cool...has ANYONE been able to beat it?

i will go take some screenies btw
 

zzzz

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can you make the other gold mine more accessible from start? by the time I finished cutting the wood, it was too late!
 

XBoxLPU

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I survived until the Chaos Urk Hai and Chaos Hedhunter showed up. All of my heroes were killed.. they destroyed my base at 29:55!!!!!!! ALMOST had it beat.

FUN FUN! but there needs to a little more space in between attacks or something to heal Aragorn, as he has no chance to heal in between the fast attacks. Maybe a more established base such as farms and defense
 

kami

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zzzz, did you even have to use the second gold mine? every time i have played i have never come close to running out of gold on the first mine.

XBoxLPU, almost!!! a few more seconds and the Ents would have arrived. They have 6500 hit points and about 900 damage per hit. They are VERY fun to control :D

thanks for trying though, i will contrinue to tweak it :) Maybe I will make Aragorn regenerate his health quicker? that might help so he could survive longer

 

zzzz

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If you can already put all the farms and a barack on the map, it would help greatly!
 

nirgis

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I beat it the second time I played. It is actually very easy if you make a lot of archers and put them up on the cliffs. They just mow down anyone coming in.

A very fun map though!!