My first experience with an American Muslim

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steppinthrax

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All of that bolded shit is terrifying. Sick fucks. That Muslim girl didn't pull any of that shit on me. We just had fun.

Although I don't agree with arranged marriages, many still practice it.

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You can look at it both ways.
 

BoberFett

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You didn't really answer my question, but that's fine...

My father is from Pakistan. I have a middle eastern name. However, I'm not Muslim. I do however, identify with much of the discrimination that persons with middle eastern decent encounter. I'm just curious, because I know many Muslims are pretty tight when it comes to who they date etc... It's actually quite common to find arranged marriages. The father of the household may arrange his daughter with someone who they know is reliable and is of good "character".

She's not necessarily forced into the marriage, because she's been indoctrinated into the culture and "way of doing things" and it's not difficult to convince her she needs to marry this person.

Usually both families meet and they discuss their son and their daughter. The families become involved. Some indians do this as well, however they tend to be a little more liberal.

Another friend of mine is Indian, and his was an arranged marriage. The first time he met his wife-to-be was when he flew to India to meet her. They're here in the US now and happy together, but I still find the arranged thing odd. She is a helluva good cook though, so that counts for something. :p
 

pete6032

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I'm American and I've known many Muslims, Sufi, Sunni, Shiite. Where do you all live that you don't come into contact with Muslims? I don't think it's that uncommon?
 

brianmanahan

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I'm American and I've known many Muslims, Sufi, Sunni, Shiite. Where do you all live that you don't come into contact with Muslims? I don't think it's that uncommon?

rural ohio has approximately 0 muslims

it is %99 white people
 

Train

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No disrespect intended my good man. I recognize my error, and humbly beg your forgiveness.

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cronos

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What's not understand about what's written in the book that you believe in? If these people were really serious, they would try to read and understand the Quran. If they can't read, they can go to a mosque where the imam can help them follow the right path. These people are NOT really serious if they don't bother to do those things.

I think you need to take a step back and stop judging other people's seriousness in following their religion, brother.
 

HamburgerBoy

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My last year of undergrad we had a semi-mandated study group, consisting mostly of Mormons but also one Muslim. He was pretty much an ordinary brodude with a Catholic girlfriend that enjoyed drinking and checking out women. He was also very conservative in other ways though, closer to any 50s middle/upper-class WASP stereotype than most of the actual white conservatives I know.

In Portland Oregon they have a mosque I used to drive by often. Not to far from where I lived. They were always out there walking their kids home from school. The women anyway. Covered in black head to toe. Kind of feel bad for them actually. Although I kind of feel worse for the American men who have to deal with skanky big mouthed entitled wenches in our society lol. Can't we find something in between and all be happy?

It's kind of strange driving through that area, but I don't really care. I kind of worry if things get bad that some of the innocent Muslim kids and women might be targets.

Years back not long after 9/11 there were like a hundred cop cars and helicopters at the 7/11. Turns out they caught some terrorists.

Also I lived right next door to a car repair shop run by middle eastern men. The big scary looking kind. I never had any problem with them though and was always pleasant to them if we talked. And them also. Not that we did much. I'd often see them outside burning papers and documents in large drums.

One day I came home and they were totally gone. Just totally disappeared very fast. Never saw them again. Just went poof and gone. Usually it takes quite some time to move an entire business. Seemed a little suspicious. Always wondered about that. Although maybe sales went down because of their race and how people felt toward them. But even then, it was awfully fast to just be suddenly gone one day.

Then some horrible horrible, white trash repair guys moved in. Big loud mouths always looking for trouble. Ugh. It was terrible. Between them and the crazy white guy behind me who stacked crates 8 feet high in his entire front yard, the unstable white guy on the other side of me with the crappy motor home leaning over so far it was about to fall on my house, the neighborhood went to crap. Just months before it was great, with great neighbors, then literally all 4 neighbors move away directly around me. I sold my house, made a lot of money and got the heck out of there.

My moral, I don't give a crap who you are or what you look like, as long as you're a decent person.

I remember the Muslim family of a girl in one of my sibling's classes moved very abruptly to Pakistan after 9/11. Probably a mixture of discrimination and maybe sudden visa troubles.
 

steppinthrax

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Another friend of mine is Indian, and his was an arranged marriage. The first time he met his wife-to-be was when he flew to India to meet her. They're here in the US now and happy together, but I still find the arranged thing odd. She is a helluva good cook though, so that counts for something. :p

What I've found is most Asians view marriage differently than Americans. Marriages in Asian countries tend to be a marriage of "facility" while in America it tends to be out of "love". I remember when I visited Pakistan for the first time (when I was 12), I would hear people say "first comes marriage then comes love".

In general Marriage (Asian culture) is similar to two companies merging together. It's seen as a strategy (i.e. what does this company have and/or what will the end result be and/or how much more powerful will he/she be when married to he/she). The two people don't necessarily have to like each other or love each other.
 

ControlD

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Are you trying to say Toledo is "rural" ?

lol, no. I would say Toledo is "shitty" (still nice compared to where I live though I suppose).

Just trying to help a poor country boy expand his horizons a little.
 

tcsenter

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What I've found is most Asians view marriage differently than Americans. Marriages in Asian countries tend to be a marriage of "facility" while in America it tends to be out of "love". I remember when I visited Pakistan for the first time (when I was 12), I would hear people say "first comes marriage then comes love".
This was pretty much the global institution of marriage until quite recently, due to women in the West gaining some human rights. It mostly existed in books and stories for a while, or was limited to very privileged/educated/cultured families. It didn't really become "common" in the West until no more than 150 years ago, but even then, there was still pressure in many families to marry for reasons other than love. It's why there used to be a lot of so-called shotgun weddings because girls knew that if they were to get pregnant by a boy (of her choosing) on whom she was smitten, then the expectation was that they get married.

Hell, my grandfather tried to marry-off my mom to his 2nd cousin when she was 14 (he was 20). My grandmother wouldn't have it. It was the 1950s.