My dad's a total f-tard.

"What is everybody getting so upset about? I mean, the guy is just obviously upset over something that I would also be frustrated about."

No, no, hon', you don't get it. Now listen, for here's what I find upsetting: It's one thing to be unhappy with daddy's decision or to object to daddy's decision. But to go to the measure of disrespecting daddy and at a public forum calling him despicable names, names that I would not expect from someone who feeds from his dad is what I cannot condone or forgive. It gets me boiled. He shouldn't ever shoot his mouth like that. God, is he so lucky that I'm not his mum 'cuz if he saw tomorrow he would have a lot to be grateful for. This boy is a spoilt brat. But at least if he had the courtesy not to attack his dad personally, then I would feel some kind of sympathy toward him or at least understand where he's coming from. But once he opens his nasty mouth to insult the hand that feeds him publicly and offers no public apology, he loses any respect from me and gets my wrath. It's as simple as that. I don't care if this is a forum to vent, but you don't publicly diss your dad like that when he's not half the irresponsible men out there who leave their kids starving whilst running round and making more babies.

I have read this boy's posts and they tend to have a pattern. I think he needs some senses driven into his head as this thread is just overboard with the language he used toward his father. When I was his age, I was in college too. And I didn't have my parents driving me round at my convenience. I took the public transportation and gave them as much independence as I could.

 

[snooker]

Now what do you think your dad would do if he seen this thread? I know if I was your dad and seen it, you wouldn't have any computer to worry about taking to school with you.:|

 

[whalen]

Why did you bring your computer home in the first place just for the weekend....

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: luvly
"What is everybody getting so upset about? I mean, the guy is just obviously upset over something that I would also be frustrated about."

No, no, hon', you don't get it. Now listen, for here's what I find upsetting: It's one thing to be unhappy with daddy's decision or to object to daddy's decision. But to go to the measure of disrespecting daddy and at a public forum calling him despicable names, names that I would not expect from someone who feeds from his dad is what I cannot condone or forgive. It gets me boiled. He shouldn't ever shoot his mouth like that. God, is he so lucky that I'm not his mum 'cuz if he saw tomorrow he would have a lot to be grateful for. This boy is a spoilt brat. But at least if he had the courtesy not to attack his dad personally, then I would feel some kind of sympathy toward him or at least understand where he's coming from. But once he opens his nasty mouth to insult the hand that feeds him publicly and offers no public apology, he loses any respect from me and gets my wrath. It's as simple as that. I don't care if this is a forum to vent, but you don't publicly diss your dad like that when he's not half the irresponsible men out there who leave their kids starve whilst running round and making more babies.

I have read this boy's posts and they tend to have a pattern. I think he needs some senses driven into his head as this thread is just overboard with the language he used toward his father.

Chill, luvly. He's just a typical teenager. Most teens cannot appreciate what their parents do for them until much later. I have yet to find one person who did not curse their parents when they were teens. Maybe not publically, but at least in their minds. The only difference between him, and kids back when I was a teen is that we never had the internet to vent our frustrations to such a wide audience.

Instead of trashing the kid and therefore alienating him, show him the errors of his ways by giving him a bit of your wisdom on the subject.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Amused
He created you, fed you, educated you and raised you... and probably worked his fingers to the bone doing so. Now he's a "f-tard" and an "SOB" because he wont cater to your whims and make life easy for you?

Re-evaluate your position in life. One day, your father will not be there... and you will regret the times you selfishly pissed all over the man who made you what you are today.

I'm not being critical because I don't like you or anything like that. Hell, I'm not even being self righteous. I'm simply passing on a little bit of wisdom to you.

You see, I was once just like you. But my father died when I was 18, and now I wish I could take back every assholish thing I did and said and spend just one more day with him, just to let him know how grateful I am for everything he did for me... even if some of those things pissed me off, they made me a better man.

For real. Listen to Amused, NuclearFusi0n1. My mom died when I was 16. My dad is old, and I can't be with my family for the holidays. You really, really need to sit down and think about what Amused said. Enjoy your parents, while you still can.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: .paldo

WTF is wrong with you? Why are you stereotyping? Im a fvcking Korean

so am i...just saying i know a couple people who are like that and the responses sound similar to what my dad would say and stuff

 

[agnitrate]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: agnitrate
What is everybody getting so upset about? I mean, the guy is just obviously upset over something that I would also be frustrated about. I'm not sure I would call him a f-tard but I certainly wouldn't say: "Gee dad, I find it entirely respectable that you have decided not to let me function 100% in school". You NEED a computer for many classes so you can look for things online and just do work in general. What the hell is the difference between him going on a message board to post a rant and going to his friends and calling his dad a jerk?

Oh yeah, I know. You get a ton of message board idiots all over him about how 'Back when I was young, we respected our fathers and we did whatever they said and whatever they wanted all the time so we seemed subservient in every way. You had better respect your father, boy, because he gave you live, feeds you, and gives you an education.'

Yeeeeah. First of all, he didn't say I HATE MY DAD BECAUSE HE DIDNT GIVE ME EVERYTHING I WANTS. This is a valid frustration about bringing some necessary things to school with him. I'm sick of all the 'wise' people on here telling people to respect every single one of their parents' wishes. Here's my advice: ALWAYS respect your parents but don't always be told EVERYTHING you do. And use common sense when you confront them about problems (i.e. 'You said you wouldn't pay for my car, I think you should' is stupid).

On the same token however, let's look at the father side of it. I'm not saying Nuclear doesn't deserve to have a ride but we don't know the whole story here. Maybe his dad just busted his ass doing something all week/end and he wants a break. Maybe he is on vacation. Maybe Nuclear did something that pissed him off and he doesn't feel like going out of his way to providing him with something he feels is unnecessary. Fathers are people too and sometimes they get pissed off. Life sucks, wear a helmet.

Think for yourself. Question authority.
-silver

Oh for fsck's sake, few, if any here have said" "'Back when I was young, we respected our fathers and we did whatever they said and whatever they wanted all the time so we seemed subservient in every way. You had better respect your father, boy, because he gave you live, feeds you, and gives you an education.' "

Most of us have admitted to doing the same damn thing he his doing now (I was probably much worse to my father), only to later realize how gawd damn stupid we were. So stop with the activist "question authority" BS and actually read what people are saying

I was actually agreeing with you, Amused. Sorry if it seemed like I was lumping you into the category of my generalization and no I didn't mean people specifically said the quote that I used. I was making a broad generalization and I thought it would have been seen as semi-sarcastic because I actually wrote , boy, like you would say it with a southern accent or something. I was trying to get it to sound like the father-figure in American Beauty or something along those lines.

I whole-heartedly agree with your POV Amused. People don't respect their parents' good deeds while they're around. The few who do are very lucky individuals. Sadly, that's how life works. I know I try to appreciate what my parents do for me and I am trying to make them proud of me because I feel I owe them something for all they have done to me.

Unfortunately, I can't say that I was just as bad to my father because he was never around. I'm sure I would have been if he had been but, oh well. Anyways, it doesn't really mad because teenagers will find somebody to blame their anger on. It's just usually the father because he's the 'authority' figure that they feel they are being repressed by.

I was trying to point out the same thing you did, albeit in a different way. I sympathized with his POV and told others that they did the same thing although not on a public message board. I told him to respect his parents as you did and I questioned the veracity of his statement by trying to think of it through his father's eyes. I'm not sure why you were mad about the 'Think for yourself. Question authority.' I threw that in there because it was intended for all of those who I deemed as subservient (to the extreme) to their parents. It's not healthy to walk around being told everything you do.

-silver

 

[Francodman]

Jesus don't all jump at his throat at once! Don't you remember when you were a teenager? I bet you guys were all little bastards as well that at one point *gasp* got mad at your parents for not doing something for you!
He doesn't hate his dad, he's just a lil mad..and when you add hormones to the mix, you get stuff like this.

 

[lilFajita]

I know a lot of people are mad because NuclearFusion called his dad a bad name...but isn't that the point of a forum like this? Often times in life, we get so angry at the people in our lives that we want to just yell out mean names and well, rant.

I'm sure that he doesn't always think his dad is a f*tard all the time, but I can see how the situation kinda sucks and is frustrating. Yea, he is probably luckier than alot of people, in terms of being provided for, but that doesn't mean that his dad isn't being a little illogical in requiring his son to come home all the time, but be unwilling to provide him with a form of transportation. And generally, people judge life and situations based on the experiences they have had. A person who has always had the basic neccessities provided will never look at a situation the way someone who has never had anything given to them , and it wouldn't make sense if they did.

I guess, though I understand that he has it pretty good, and that we should all appreciate our parents when we have the chance, that I don't think that he deserves the flames for just saying "man, I think this sucks".

so, all I really have to say is....yea man, that's a bizatch! glad you got a ride tho

 

[Citation]

My mother is a f-tard just because I don't like her =Þ
and if you guys are going to all get into the morality of "disrespecting" your parents on a public forum then maybe you should psychoanalyze how he shouldn't vent how he feels to anyone and bottle it all deep down inside, always has worked for me.
Just because parents are older doesn't make them right. My mother uses that logic all the time, "I'm older and have lived here longer so I know more then you and I'm always right" yeah well that?s crap, and it goes to show just how much she doesn't know. I respect my dad to an infinite extent because he doesn't comment on things he doesn't know, allows me to hold my own opinions and gives advice but doesn't tell me how to think or act.



Think for yourself, Question the penguin.

-Cit

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Citation
My mother is a f-tard just because I don't like her =Þ
and if you guys are going to all get into the morality of "disrespecting" your parents on a public forum then maybe you should psychoanalyze how he shouldn't vent how he feels to anyone and bottle it all deep down inside, always has worked for me.
Just because parents are older doesn't make them right. My mother uses that logic all the time, "I'm older and have lived here longer so I know more then you and I'm always right" yeah well that?s crap, and it goes to show just how much she doesn't know. I respect my dad to an infinite extent because he doesn't comment on things he doesn't know, allows me to hold my own opinions and gives advice but doesn't tell me how to think or act.



Think for yourself, Question the penguin.

-Cit

As I said before, we all think like this when we're young. Then, at some point in our twenties we start to realize just how right they were, and what insolent little brats we were.

Teenagers didn't get a reputation of being know-it-all idiots for nothing, ya know.

Use your allowence and buy a clue here... ALL the folks over their twenties are trying to explain something to you here. The only people saying what you're saying are younger. What is the difference? We got older and saw the error of our ways.

This has little to do with morality, and EVERYTHING to do with regret. I know that most of what I'm saying will mean little to most of you younger than your early twenties, but it will ring true to just about anybody older than that. Especially to those of us who have lost our parents.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: luvly
My Lord! You speak like some little child in high school. If it weren't for your lame thread about the bet you made with your roommate about getting laid where you revealed your age, I would have sworn that you were some little kid. Grow up! You have the liberty of not living with your parents and the liberty of public transportation. Listen kid, 16 years is not an age to be babied. Fend for yourself and quit disrespecting your father because he won't baby you. You have no grounds to . . . until at least you are willing to fend for yourself. Grow up! :|

actually, most people who are 16 are in high school. so he's par for the course.

 

[Jfur]

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Originally posted by: Jfur

Originally posted by: dannybek
lol yep and wants to kill his father! LoL

and then gauge out his own eyeballs!

gouge, maybe?

he just measured them, didn't rip them out that would make it hard to see

 

[handoverfist]

Originally posted by: Fireman
When I was 16 my dad was really stupid too. Then amazingly as I got older, he got alot smarter.
F'n wierd I know, but now I'm 36 and I STILL ask him for advice.
Freaky stuff man.

This is called the dumbing down effect..... Realization that parents actually know what they're talking about happens around 20-21 for girls, and later for guys. My professor was talking about this the other day. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: handoverfist

Originally posted by: Fireman
When I was 16 my dad was really stupid too. Then amazingly as I got older, he got alot smarter.
F'n wierd I know, but now I'm 36 and I STILL ask him for advice.
Freaky stuff man.

This is called the dumbing down effect..... Realization that parents actually know what they're talking about happens around 20-21 for girls, and later for guys. My professor was talking about this the other day. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Nope, you're not wrong. I've been trying to say this all along.

It's much like children and the "terrible twos." At around age two, a child develops the ability to walk anywhere, and pick up just about anything. What they have not developed is any sense of discipline and cannot understand why they are not allowed to do anything they want with these new found skills.

It's much the same for teens.

 

[CurtCold]

<chris Rock>

"You never hear anyone say "gee daddy, thanks for knockn' out this rent."
"Boy it sure is nice having some electricity around here daddy"
"Boy these chicken wings sure are good daddy"

Me@16
"Sure would be nice to have a truck"
Mom/Dad
"No one gave me a truck when I was your age"
"Tell you what..you work for us all summer long building houses, and we'll give you $1500"
Me
"Aiight"

End of Summer:
52' Chevy driving down the Road


Mom: "oh yeah, and your going to have to pay your insurance"
Me: "shut up I'll pay it"
Mom: "btw, it's going to be about $90 a month
Me: "Hola Shiznit....has to get job to pay gas/insurance."

Fusi0n1 you should be happy with what you have. Your parents would be out a buttload on insurance alon for you. Get a job and stop whining.
Welcome to the beginning of "The real world" BTW

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Your dad has paid for just about everything you own while keeping you focused on the important things and you call him a f-tard? LOL you're pretty funny you ungrateful sh!t.

 

[Dudd]

You can have a bank account when you are less than 18 FWIW.

I don't know about the rest of the country, but that's false in NY. I went to two banks looking to open a checking account, but because I'm not legally old enough to enter a contract, I can only get a joint savings account with one of my parents. That's all good, except that I can't cash any of my paychecks or take any money out of the account. All I can do is deposit checks. If I want to cash a check or withdraw money, I have to bring a parent with me. They won't give me an ATM card either, nor one to my parents that could just happen to find its way into my hands. All you guys who are ragging on him don't realize how frustrating it is to be a minor at times.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Dudd

You can have a bank account when you are less than 18 FWIW.

I don't know about the rest of the country, but that's false in NY. I went to two banks looking to open a checking account, but because I'm not legally old enough to enter a contract, I can only get a joint savings account with one of my parents. That's all good, except that I can't cash any of my paychecks or take any money out of the account. All I can do is deposit checks. If I want to cash a check or withdraw money, I have to bring a parent with me. They won't give me an ATM card either, nor one to my parents that could just happen to find its way into my hands. All you guys who are ragging on him don't realize how frustrating it is to be a minor at times.

Oh yeah, we don't understand. We only have the luxury of having lived through it, and gaining the ability to look back and see what clueless, whining little know-it-all brats we were.

 

[CurtCold]

Originally posted by: Dudd

You can have a bank account when you are less than 18 FWIW.

All you guys who are ragging on him don't realize how frustrating it is to be a minor at times.

HAHAHA! that's Rich man....

Yeah it's official, he's the only minor ever in the world.

I don't know how it is everywhere else, but I've had a savings account since I was 12.
I'm sure different banks have different rules.

 

[Dragnov]

Originally posted by: yamahaXS
Your dad has paid for just about everything you own while keeping you focused on the important things and you call him a f-tard? LOL you're pretty funny you ungrateful sh!t.

Wait no one is flaming in this thread?

Sorry you old timers, you have some growing to do still yourself. I completely agree that he should show some more respect and be more grateful... and as time goes by he'll learn that. You're telling me when you were 16 you never were so pissed at your parents (no matter how minor it is) that you were cussing and saying how much you hate them? Nothings acheived by flaming him and being a complete @ss about it... for fsck sake wtf were you doing when you were a teen? Experiementing w/ drugs, sex, and alocohol? You're all great angels.

I'm not defending his words or actions, but jesus give him a break. He'll realize hes wrong soon enough, and he'll grow out of his stupidity.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

Originally posted by: yamahaXS
Your dad has paid for just about everything you own while keeping you focused on the important things and you call him a f-tard? LOL you're pretty funny you ungrateful sh!t.

Wait no one is flaming in this thread?

Sorry you old timers, you have some growing to do still yourself. I completely agree that he should show some more respect and be more grateful... and as time goes by he'll learn that. You're telling me when you were 16 you never were so pissed at your parents (no matter how minor it is) that you were cussing and saying how much you hate them? Nothings acheived by flaming him and being a complete @ss about it... for fsck sake wtf were you doing when you were a teen? Experiementing w/ drugs, sex, and alocohol? You're all great angels.

Did you READ the thread???

We are trying to teach him something we learned because we made the SAME FSCKING MISTAKES he's now making. The core issue here is not about morality, or respect. It's about regret.

I can guarantee I treated my parents FAR worse than he has ever, or will ever, treat his. And boy, do I regret it like nothing else in this world. All I'm trying to do is give him a little of the wisdom I gained far too late.

 

[Dragnov]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

Originally posted by: yamahaXS
Your dad has paid for just about everything you own while keeping you focused on the important things and you call him a f-tard? LOL you're pretty funny you ungrateful sh!t.

Wait no one is flaming in this thread?

Sorry you old timers, you have some growing to do still yourself. I completely agree that he should show some more respect and be more grateful... and as time goes by he'll learn that. You're telling me when you were 16 you never were so pissed at your parents (no matter how minor it is) that you were cussing and saying how much you hate them? Nothings acheived by flaming him and being a complete @ss about it... for fsck sake wtf were you doing when you were a teen? Experiementing w/ drugs, sex, and alocohol? You're all great angels.

Did you READ the thread???

We are trying to teach him something we learned because we made the SAME FSCKING MISTAKES he's now making. The core issue here is not about morality, or respect. It's about regret.

I can guarantee I treated my parents FAR worse than he has ever, or will ever, treat his. And boy, do I regret it like nothing else in this world. All I'm trying to do is give him a little of the wisdom I gained far too late.

Agreed. You've been level headed about this Amused . But people just calling him an ungrateful piece of sh1t and other names aint going to do anything.

Examples...

Poor smart kid. STFU. Me go play with funny colored blocks now.

man your nothing but a whiny POS in my book. anyone who completely disrespects his father over something sooo trivial so complete lack of discipline and a complete lack of character.

I think thats called being a teenager.

 

[TurtleMan]

glad to hear someone is giving u a ride, where u live neway

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

Originally posted by: yamahaXS
Your dad has paid for just about everything you own while keeping you focused on the important things and you call him a f-tard? LOL you're pretty funny you ungrateful sh!t.

Wait no one is flaming in this thread?

Sorry you old timers, you have some growing to do still yourself. I completely agree that he should show some more respect and be more grateful... and as time goes by he'll learn that. You're telling me when you were 16 you never were so pissed at your parents (no matter how minor it is) that you were cussing and saying how much you hate them? Nothings acheived by flaming him and being a complete @ss about it... for fsck sake wtf were you doing when you were a teen? Experiementing w/ drugs, sex, and alocohol? You're all great angels.

Did you READ the thread???

We are trying to teach him something we learned because we made the SAME FSCKING MISTAKES he's now making. The core issue here is not about morality, or respect. It's about regret.

I can guarantee I treated my parents FAR worse than he has ever, or will ever, treat his. And boy, do I regret it like nothing else in this world. All I'm trying to do is give him a little of the wisdom I gained far too late.

Agreed. But just calling him an ungrateful piece of sh1t and other names aint going to do anything.

No, it's not. And I already chastised one person for insulting him. However, I'm not the thread cop here. Plus, even though he was crass about it, I can certainly understand the sentiment.

But if you read the bulk of the thread, most people are not insulting him.