My dad - an example of christian conservative hypocrisy

[jackschmittusa]

DubyaDisciple

I find it extremely funny how if you actually try to live for something greater, and have morals...being a "hypocrite" is so horrible.
While those who live for nothing, who have no morals, are held to code... anything goes..
somehow in your sick mind those people are held in greater esteem than those who fail to live up to a code of morality.

AT LEAST THEY ARE NOT HYPOCRITES!
lol

What a biggoted remark. How do you get off claiming that you have to believe in some god to have morals or that those who don't live for nothing and anything goes.

I can tell you right off the top that I take no stock in ancient folklore about mystical beings. I respect others, their property, and grant them all the same rights as I would ask for myself. I have led a more moral life than many so called "believers". And I choose a live and let live attitude toward others who also respect my rights.

And please define "live for something greater". Is this some social goal or just believing in some magical entity?

 

[viivo]

Don't feed the gimmick poster.

 

[CaptnKirk]

DubyaDisciple

Who were you before they banned you the last time ?

With only 10 posts, you know way too much about the people and what
has been going on in the past here - The Mods will rat you out.

I just hope that they post who you were before the re-incarnation.

 

[Caminetto]

I have known hundreds of people just like your father, on the religious right, and I make no judgment of them. I have observed they like to hold up an image of themselves in the world as their value system says the world should be, rather than who they really are. They don't think of this as hypocrisy, because in their minds they have accepted the fact that they have an area of weakness, and it's "ok" because at least they are not furthering the ?sin? by preaching it's acceptance to others, and are publicly condemning it. This rationalization applies to more than just porn.

 

[Klixxer]

When it comes to a father-son relationship it is different, i warn my daughter about boys that are like i was and i try to keep my son from being as stupid as i was, it is called "wanting the best for your children" and every sane father does it, wait until you have children of your own and you'll see what i mean.

When it comes to the Christian rights general hipocrasy and the underlying tone i agree, just tell them not to throw stones in the house of glass they are living in, repeat that phrase no matter what they say, tends to drive them into a frenzy and that is quite fun to watch.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Todd33
All Christians are hypocrits, religious babble will never overcome human nature.

All liberals are bigoted hypocrits incapable of morality.


:roll:

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: DubyaDisciple

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: DubyaDisciple

Originally posted by: Dissipate


Grow up and maybe you will be half the man your father is.

You mean he should be a hypocrite who preaches against the evils of porn yet secretly looks at porn anyway?

I guess if you can convince him that his loving, well-meaning father is some kind of horrid "Christian hypocrite".. instead of the father who probably has endless love in his heart... who would do anything for his son.. then give it your best shot.

Everyone has flaws, and being a Christian doesnt mean you are perfect nor does it mean you have to live without sin.

Being Christian means you have the brainpower to comprehend that things are never created without purpose, or in laymans terms.. that a God is undeniable.

And that as Christians we acknowledge to God that we are imperfect, and place the sins we will commit into our faith that Jesus Christ died for us.

So hes actually not a hypocrite at all. Its what you admit being a Christian.
Hes doing exactly as he knows he will undoubtably do, and exactly as God expects of him as a mortal.
The flipside is that as a Christian he should try not to do such things in the future, but that does not make the thesis incorrect.



I find it extremely funny how if you actually try to live for something greater, and have morals...being a "hypocrite" is so horrible.
While those who live for nothing, who have no morals, are held to code... anything goes..
somehow in your sick mind those people are held in greater esteem than those who fail to live up to a code of morality.

AT LEAST THEY ARE NOT HYPOCRITES!
lol

You don't get it, religion is for YOU to follow, not for you to use as a tool to blame others for not following it.

And not walking the path and blaming others for not doing it either IS hypocracy, you can turn twist and squirm all day long, it's still hypocracy.

And BTW, welcome back Passions.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Todd33
All Christians are hypocrits, religious babble will never overcome human nature.

All liberals are bigoted hypocrits incapable of morality.


:roll:

Choosy mother's choose Jif.

 

[Baltazar325]

I hate hypocrites as well. Nothing drives me more insane then super christian hypocrites, The fact that you cant talk any reason to these people is quiet annoying. They just stand behind their blind faith. The Nazi's had blind faith as well....worked out well for them.

Now, that being said, not all christians are hypocrites per se. I know a lot that are truly good people that try to follow christs teachings to the best of their ability, others do not. I know one girl that praises the lord as she fvcks everything in the city...I know because me and 2 of my friends fvcked her in the same week. However, anyone else that acts like her, she would call a slut. Hypocrisy finds it way into everything. I know many liberals that drive around in their SUVs.

That being said. I'm not a christian, but I do have a tendency to vote rebulican.

 

[maluckey]

I have one question

"Not only that but one time I was over at one of my uncle's houses, an even more hard core christian conservative. I went on to his computer and decided to do a little searchy search while no one was looking. His IE history folder was loaded with porn pages. Now I don't know for certain if it was his kids (he has two sons) or him, but some time later my brother and I confronted our little cousins about the porn in the history folder. My uncle overheard and seemed quite agitated, he asked briskly: "What are you doing searching around on our computer anyways?" I decided not to answer the question and left it at that."


Could it be that you could not answer as to why you did something morally wrong, came between a father and his children, disrespected you uncle by not at least talking to him about it, then decided to judge all Christioans by the one example you found because you are as morally bankrupt as they? Your moral bankruptcy is not soley your fault, but at least part of it must lie with you. Your parents obviously tried to talk about right and wrong, but you failed to understand and app,lywhat they taught.

You do not have to be without sin to teach what is a sin. You do not have to be the greatest football player to coach a winning team. You just have to understand the way things are in that discipline.

You do have to pay attention, and understand what you learned, to practice what you know to be good and bad.

Talk to your parents...openly, and without judgement. They are no better or worse than any other parents, and the fact that you HAVE TWO PARENTS speaks volumes in todays world.

 

[Caminetto]

And BTW, welcome back Passions.

Yep.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime

Why do you think so many preists are pedophiles? They're told to stay away from women, but they still have basic human sexual desires that can't just be turned off. So, their behavior becomes deviant.

But why do they become homosexual paedophiles instead of straight fornicaters?

Then what excuse do you have for teachers? I would think a huge amount of teachers are atheists and liberal yet pedophilia is rampant in the schools.

 

[Isla]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: zephyrprime

Why do you think so many preists are pedophiles? They're told to stay away from women, but they still have basic human sexual desires that can't just be turned off. So, their behavior becomes deviant.

But why do they become homosexual paedophiles instead of straight fornicaters?

Then what excuse do you have for teachers? I would think a huge amount of teachers are atheists and liberal yet pedophilia is rampant in the schools.

Rampant?



There may be a few bad apples here and there, and when they get caught, it is sensational news.

Meanwhile, the majority of us won't even risk having sex on the beach with our husbands (in celebration of our 12th anniversary) because we are afraid what would happen if we get caught.

I sincerely told him, "No sweetheart, because if we get caught, it will end up being front page news!"

Sigh.

 

[Todd33]

DubyaDisciple is probably that moron Willian.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: zephyrprime

Why do you think so many preists are pedophiles? They're told to stay away from women, but they still have basic human sexual desires that can't just be turned off. So, their behavior becomes deviant.

But why do they become homosexual paedophiles instead of straight fornicaters?

Then what excuse do you have for teachers? I would think a huge amount of teachers are atheists and liberal yet pedophilia is rampant in the schools.

Nothing supports that. Yet another made up statement, welcome to the Neocons, here is your membership card.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: zephyrprime

Why do you think so many preists are pedophiles? They're told to stay away from women, but they still have basic human sexual desires that can't just be turned off. So, their behavior becomes deviant.

But why do they become homosexual paedophiles instead of straight fornicaters?

Then what excuse do you have for teachers? I would think a huge amount of teachers are atheists and liberal yet pedophilia is rampant in the schools.

Nothing supports that. Yet another made up statement, welcome to the Neocons, here is your membership card.

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There ya go, read it. If you can pull your head out of your a** long enough.

edit: You don't even know what a neocon is. A neocon is a democrat that got sick of the vomotous filth spewed by the ignorant and took a realistic view of the world. Im more classic in my beliefs.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Dissipate


If anyone could shed some light on this subject, please do because I really cannot believe the extreme hypocrisy taking place here. My theory is that these christian conservative men will publicly denounce pornography in order to appease their wives, but then secretly relish themselves in it while no one is watching.

There is this thing in life called temptation. To be tempted by the things that we know conflict with the values that we hold. You could label the failure to resist temptation, hypocrisy. But to assign the label to a group of people without knowing the individual details of each person in that group would not be prudent.

The fact that you may see it that way because of your immediate family and come to conclusions of your theory would suggest that you have not yet seen enough of the real world to draw such a broad conclusion.

"Confronting", as you put it, your father about this may not be well received but certainly could be an eye opening thing for both of you, and may even yield to you the answer you are seeking.

Have a great day!

 

[myusername]

Originally posted by: nutxo

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There ya go, read it. If you can pull your head out of your a** long enough.

edit: You don't even know what a neocon is. A neocon is a democrat that got sick of the vomotous filth spewed by the ignorant and took a realistic view of the world. Im more classic in my beliefs.

"the NEA convention supported homosexual rights and programs to teach schoolchildren to be tolerant of homosexual, bisexual and transgendered lifestyles; criticized capital punishment in the United States; and called for a federally run health care program."

Good to see you finally came to your senses.

 

[judasmachine]

The fact is that we are animals, even if there is a god up there. Sex is hardwired, and the desire to do it arrises more than the oppurtunity. Porn provides a service. Albeit at the expense of some of the participants. It doesn't cause madness, like they tend to think marijuana does too. All extremes are dead ends. If you look for perfection you will find failings, if you look for failings you will succeed. The fact remains we are animals, and as such we will continue to pursue our lustful, greedful, covetous ways no matter what religion we belong to, or political faction we join, or the absense of them.

GET OVER IT! Humanists is what we all are, no matter how we deny it.

 

[jackschmittusa]

nutxo

Could you find me a link that pulls the Catholic schools out of the total?

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

I think the biggest Christian conservative hypocracy lies in the large amount of them who support war. But that's a whole other can of worms...

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
nutxo

Could you find me a link that pulls the Catholic schools out of the total?

http://www.ed.gov/news/pressreleases/2004/06/06302004.html

Take the numbers as you will, but please leave your bigotry at the door.

 

[Excelsior]

All of you that bash christianity are just as close-minded as the conservative-christians themselves.

 

[Fingolfin269]

The guy might just not like the fact that you're looking around on the computer and now know that his children have been looking at porn.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Excelsior
All of you that bash christianity are just as close-minded as the conservative-christians themselves.

All of you who bash atheism are as close minded as those who bach christians.

See how that works?

They are just using their Religion to base their nazi beliefs on, it is, of course no worse than basing your nazi beliefs on anything else.

But it isn't better either.