meltdown75
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So I called Oxy's boss back and told him I do not feel comfortable being in the meeting with him and Oxy. He said he would like me in the meeting so we can confront him with the problems, I told him I did not feel comfortable with this. I explained to him I have talked to Oxy about the problems. I told him if he would like to come out and talk to me today in person I would be fine with it but I will not be in the meeting tomorrow.
Just to clarify I have talked Oxy 3 times over the last 10 week about his problem, I know he is using oxycontin because he told me. Im not sure if he is using anything else because I am not sure of all the sings. He says "I am not using oxycontin anymore, well at least any amount that would effect me".
Just to clarify I have talked Oxy 3 times over the last 10 week about his problem, I know he is using oxycontin because he told me. Im not sure if he is using anything else because I am not sure of all the sings. He says "I am not using oxycontin anymore, well at least any amount that would effect me".
good job holding your ground here. I don't think it was right for oxy's boss to put you on the spot like that anyways.
He has his sunglasses on a lot, sometimes he has them on when he his using the computer. He also has takes a few of the pills (small pink ones, he spilled them once) and puts them in his mouth like a chew and sucks on them.
I take oxycontin for my back. I used to take 2 a day, now I just take one as needed. My doctor told me that oxycontin is actually less addictive then Percocet (immediate release oxy + tylenol) or Vicodin (immediate release hydrocodone + tylenol) as it doesn't enter the system so fast since it's a controlled release tablet. The problem with oxycontin is that it's pure oxycodone with some filler, so people can snort it, inject it, etc. You can't snort/inject Percocet or Vicodin because of the Tylenol.
I don't know why so many people are so negative about Oxycodone, so long as I take it as I'm supposed to I have little to no side effects. When I used to take the Percocets you could say I felt a high, the Vicodin even more so. The thing is, for me nothing helped with my pain other then the oxy. Morphine made me dizzy. Vicodin made me feel good and happy, but no difference in pain. The oxycodone definitely helps my pain, it really takes it down a few notches.
When I used to get steroid shots in my spine regularly, they gave me Fentanyl once. Now that is something I can see why people like.
OutHouse
Lifer
- Jun 5, 2000
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the time has come for youto be the hard ass friend. Before the meeting you need to tell Oxy that he has a serious problem that has gotten the attention of his boss. You can not cover for him anymore because it is enabling him to feed his habit. he either needs to get help or quit.
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I take oxycontin for my back. I used to take 2 a day, now I just take one as needed. My doctor told me that oxycontin is actually less addictive then Percocet (immediate release oxy + tylenol) or Vicodin (immediate release hydrocodone + tylenol) as it doesn't enter the system so fast since it's a controlled release tablet. The problem with oxycontin is that it's pure oxycodone with some filler, so people can snort it, inject it, etc. You can't snort/inject Percocet or Vicodin because of the Tylenol.
I don't know why so many people are so negative about Oxycodoneso long as I take it as I'm supposed to I have little to no side effects,. When I used to take the Percocets you could say I felt a high, the Vicodin even more so. The thing is, for me nothing helped with my pain other then the oxy. Morphine made me dizzy. Vicodin made me feel good and happy, but no difference in pain. The oxycodone definitely helps my pain, it really takes it down a few notches.
When I used to get steroid shots in my spine regularly, they gave me Fentanyl once. Now that is something I can see why people like.
Really? You really don't see why we have a problem with people abusing perscription drugs?
Originally posted by: thepd7
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I take oxycontin for my back. I used to take 2 a day, now I just take one as needed. My doctor told me that oxycontin is actually less addictive then Percocet (immediate release oxy + tylenol) or Vicodin (immediate release hydrocodone + tylenol) as it doesn't enter the system so fast since it's a controlled release tablet. The problem with oxycontin is that it's pure oxycodone with some filler, so people can snort it, inject it, etc. You can't snort/inject Percocet or Vicodin because of the Tylenol.
I don't know why so many people are so negative about Oxycodoneso long as I take it as I'm supposed to I have little to no side effects,. When I used to take the Percocets you could say I felt a high, the Vicodin even more so. The thing is, for me nothing helped with my pain other then the oxy. Morphine made me dizzy. Vicodin made me feel good and happy, but no difference in pain. The oxycodone definitely helps my pain, it really takes it down a few notches.
When I used to get steroid shots in my spine regularly, they gave me Fentanyl once. Now that is something I can see why people like.
Really? You really don't see why we have a problem with people abusing perscription drugs?
I see the issue with that, but people always make it sound like taking oxycodone is like being on heroin. I could go buy some Robitussin and drink the bottle and get high on that if I wanted. Lots of things can be abused. It just seems that I see a lot of people mentioning oxycodone as a this terrible drug when I've used it off and on for a year with no issues. <shrug>
Oxy's boss called me again, from what he said Oxy will not be back until Tuesday next week. He also said he was removing Oxy from the superintendents position and would like me to take over. Our insurance program does cover some sort of treatment program and they are not going to fire him but they do want to leave him on the site working for me now. I can already see problems with this.
I am debating in I should try and call Oxy over the weekend before Tuesday.
I am debating in I should try and call Oxy over the weekend before Tuesday.
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Originally posted by: thepd7
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I take oxycontin for my back. I used to take 2 a day, now I just take one as needed. My doctor told me that oxycontin is actually less addictive then Percocet (immediate release oxy + tylenol) or Vicodin (immediate release hydrocodone + tylenol) as it doesn't enter the system so fast since it's a controlled release tablet. The problem with oxycontin is that it's pure oxycodone with some filler, so people can snort it, inject it, etc. You can't snort/inject Percocet or Vicodin because of the Tylenol.
I don't know why so many people are so negative about Oxycodoneso long as I take it as I'm supposed to I have little to no side effects,. When I used to take the Percocets you could say I felt a high, the Vicodin even more so. The thing is, for me nothing helped with my pain other then the oxy. Morphine made me dizzy. Vicodin made me feel good and happy, but no difference in pain. The oxycodone definitely helps my pain, it really takes it down a few notches.
When I used to get steroid shots in my spine regularly, they gave me Fentanyl once. Now that is something I can see why people like.
Really? You really don't see why we have a problem with people abusing perscription drugs?
I see the issue with that, but people always make it sound like taking oxycodone is like being on heroin. I could go buy some Robitussin and drink the bottle and get high on that if I wanted. Lots of things can be abused. It just seems that I see a lot of people mentioning oxycodone as a this terrible drug when I've used it off and on for a year with no issues. <shrug>
No one is making you out to be like you are on heroin, they are making the OP's boss oxy out to be like he is on heroin, which he essentially is. No one here is saying responsible perscription drug use is bad, we are merely pointed out that abuse of perscription drugs is just as bad as abuse of illegal drugs.
oxycodone is a synthetic opiate, its is VERY similar to heroin in how it affects the body. I really don't see any difference between abusing a legal opiate like morphine or oxycontin or an illegal one like heroin. All the effects are the same except to slightly varying degrees.
Oxycontin is the longer extended-release of oxycodone (spelling?)
I believe most cancer patients take it when they have a lot of pain and nausea.
It is similar. Many prescription drugs are this way.
The mistake is that most people think that the illegal drugs are much more addictive and worse for you than the prescription stuff. It's pretty much the same, but with better manufacturing quality control and more regulated dispensation.
oxycotin is bad stuff i was addicted to it for a few years, HUGE doses ... i was taking ten of the 80mg pills at once crushed up.. it goes from bad to really bad real quick. i am so happy i am off that shit and its out of my life. detox was the worst thing i've ever experieced in my life. he needs to quit work, and detox or get into inpatient, and then he needs to leave his state because staying there is only going to make him relapse again.
anyway, as for your situation i'd go ahead and take over the job and worry about your boss later.. as i see it, your relationship is compromised either way at this point. and your boss's boss knows you are in the right. if oxy wants to believe you had any part of it then that is his problem. now that your boss's boss knows that as well, you should be alright IMO, but you will have to deal with having a bad relationship with oxy if he stays with the company. (but like i said, thats pretty much inevitable now anyway)
he needs to stop his mess, and if he doesn't want to go to rehab (prefers to do it at home) then let him because rehab only makes you dwell on your problem for no reason.
P.S. those little pink things he leaves under his tongue are suboxone pills.. they are pills so you do not feel the withdrawal from oxycotin. they are a miracle for him if he uses them correctly.
anyway, as for your situation i'd go ahead and take over the job and worry about your boss later.. as i see it, your relationship is compromised either way at this point. and your boss's boss knows you are in the right. if oxy wants to believe you had any part of it then that is his problem. now that your boss's boss knows that as well, you should be alright IMO, but you will have to deal with having a bad relationship with oxy if he stays with the company. (but like i said, thats pretty much inevitable now anyway)
he needs to stop his mess, and if he doesn't want to go to rehab (prefers to do it at home) then let him because rehab only makes you dwell on your problem for no reason.
P.S. those little pink things he leaves under his tongue are suboxone pills.. they are pills so you do not feel the withdrawal from oxycotin. they are a miracle for him if he uses them correctly.
BoomerD
No Lifer
- Feb 26, 2006
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Rush? Is that you?
Giz, it's good to hear you kicked the habit. An opiate monkey can be tought to get off your back. I have 2 large bottles of oxy left over from my knee surgery 3-1/2 years ago, and 2 or 3 bottles of Norco (hydrocodone) as well. My pain management doctor keeps offering me more and more pain meds (Fentanyl, hydrocodone and others) that I keep refusing. I tell him that I'm in school full time, and I'm stupid enough naturally, I don't need any chemical help...there are other reasons I don't want to take those kinds of things if I can possibly avoid them...and he & I have discussed that as well...so now he understands...and no longer thinks I'm just being tough or noble...
This is for the poster who is lucky enough to jump on and off opiates w/o tolerance and withdrawal effects:
It's not that oxycodone is bad per se. I think its just that we ALL process this stuff differently. This example has nothing to do with the brain but, why is is that some chinese commonly have a flushing skin reaction to booze while a select minority are spared this embarassment? Perhaps our genetic differences confer some differences in processing of opiods in the brain?
Now for the OP:
Everyone else has already said that Oxy needs help and fast before things get any worse. Make that professional help.
There's this guy named Eric Nestler who (IMO) has done some really fascinating work on addiction and it seems like he's trying to unite all of the drugs of abuse on their ability to hi-jack our primitive dopaminergic reward system:
Easier read
Hurt-me-plenty read
I dont know about anyone else, but all of it suggests that even normal things that DONT involve drugs might even be addictive like WOW, CS, latex, whips, chains, etc. Maybe it all comes down to what level of stimulation you need?
It's not that oxycodone is bad per se. I think its just that we ALL process this stuff differently. This example has nothing to do with the brain but, why is is that some chinese commonly have a flushing skin reaction to booze while a select minority are spared this embarassment? Perhaps our genetic differences confer some differences in processing of opiods in the brain?
Now for the OP:
Everyone else has already said that Oxy needs help and fast before things get any worse. Make that professional help.
There's this guy named Eric Nestler who (IMO) has done some really fascinating work on addiction and it seems like he's trying to unite all of the drugs of abuse on their ability to hi-jack our primitive dopaminergic reward system:
Easier read
Hurt-me-plenty read
I dont know about anyone else, but all of it suggests that even normal things that DONT involve drugs might even be addictive like WOW, CS, latex, whips, chains, etc. Maybe it all comes down to what level of stimulation you need?
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