My Benchmarks

[JPB]

My parts finally came in yesterday and I ran some tests just to compare the two systems. Not that this is really important information, but I figure it would help someone that has an old build like I did that wants an average upgrade.

I plan on also running actual game benchmarks such as Far Cry 2 and a few others as well. I have already included some Far Cry 2 benchmarks, but not all. I still need to add benches for System 2.

I will also be using a ATI HD3870 in system 2 to compare the two cards.

But anyway, here they are.

All hardware is at stock settings.

System 1

Athlon 64 3500+ @ 2.2GHz
1 GIG Corsair Value Ram (Cas Latency 2.5 )
HIS HD3870 @ 780 Core / 2260 Memory

System 2

Intel E7200 @ 2.53GHz
4 GIG G-Skill DDR2 800
EVGA 9800GTX @ 675 Core / 2200 Memory

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Far Cry 2

System 1

ALL SETTINGS LOW / 1920X1080

* Average Framerate: 24.62
* Max. Framerate: 36.35
* Min. Framerate: 15.38

System 2

NOT YET RUN
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ALL SETTINGS LOW / 2XAA / 1920X1080

System 1

* Average Framerate: 24.07
* Max. Framerate: 35.90
* Min. Framerate: 15.48

System 2

NOT YET RUN
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ALL SETTINGS LOW / 4XAA / 1920X1080

System 1

* Average Framerate: 24.09
* Max. Framerate: 36.54
* Min. Framerate: 15.54


System 2

NOT YET RUN
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ALL SETTINGS LOW / 8XAA / 1920X1080

System 1

* Average Framerate: 23.74
* Max. Framerate: 33.87
* Min. Framerate: 15.97


System 2

NOT YET RUN
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ALL SETTINGS MEDIUM / 1920X1080

System 1

* Average Framerate: 20.56
* Max. Framerate: 30.34
* Min. Framerate: 13.80

System 2

NOT YET RUN
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ALL SETTINGS MEDIUM / 2xAA / 1920X1080

System 1

* Average Framerate: 20.18
* Max. Framerate: 29.59
* Min. Framerate: 13.52

System 2

NOT YET RUN
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ALL SETTINGS MEDIUM / 4xAA / 1920X1080

System 1

* Average Framerate: 20.38
* Max. Framerate: 30.12
* Min. Framerate: 13.54

System 2

NOT YET RUN
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ALL SETTINGS MEDIUM / 8xAA / 1920X1080

System 1

* Average Framerate: 20.21
* Max. Framerate: 28.48
* Min. Framerate: 13.76

System 2

NOT YET RUN
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ALL SETTINGS HIGH / 1920X1080

System 1

* Average Framerate: 19.03
* Max. Framerate: 28.52
* Min. Framerate: 12.62

System 2

NOT YET RUN
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ALL SETTINGS HIGH / 2XAA / 1920X1080

System 1

* Average Framerate: 17.89
* Max. Framerate: 27.64
* Min. Framerate: 12.59

System 2

NOT YET RUN
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ALL SETTINGS HIGH / 4XAA / 1920X1080

System 1

NOT YET RUN

System 2

NOT YET RUN
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Everest Ultimate

System 1

--Memory Write = 4129 MB/s
--Memory Read = 6042 MB/s
--Memory Copy = 4663MB/s
--Memory Latency = 53.5ns
--FPU SinJulia = 2946
--FPU Mandel = 1067
--FPU Julia = 1882
--CPU ZLib = 13077 KB/s
--CPU Queen = 3881
--CPU PhotoWorxx = 11226
--CPU AES = 2876

System 2

--Memory Write = 5647
--Memory Read = 6363
--Memory Copy = 5875
--Memory Latency = 77ns
--FPU SinJulia = 7455
--FPU Mandel = 4771
--FPU Julia = 9580
--CPU ZLib = 32687
--CPU Queen = 10709
--CPU PhotoWorxx = 22435
--CPU AES = 9404
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3DMark 05

System 1

--3DMark Score= 10157
--CPU Score = 6036

(CPU Tests)
--CPU Test 1 = 3.3 FPS
--CPU Test 2 = 4.91 FPS

(GAME Tests)
--GT1 - Return To Proxycon 35.71
--GT2 - Firefly Forest 27.13
--GT3 - Canyon Flight 69.21

System 2

--3DMark Score= 16222
--CPU Score = 10923

(CPU Tests)
--CPU Test 1 = 6.48
--CPU Test 2 = 8.18

(Game Tests)
--GT1 - Return To Proxycon = 55.6
--GT2 - Firefly Forest = 43.19
--GT3 - Canyon Flight = 113.9
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3DMark 06

System 1

--3DMark Score = 5794
--SM 2.0 Score = 2938
--SM 3.0 Score = 3641
--CPU Score = 867

(Graphics Tests)
--1 - Return To Proxycon 24.2
--2 - Firefly Forest 24.76

(CPU Tests)
--CPU1 - Red Valley = 0.27
--CPU2 - Red Valley = 0.44

(HDR Tests)
--1 - Canyon Flight (SM 3.0) = 39.79
--2 - Deep Freeze (SM 3.0) = 33.04

System 2

--3DMark Score = 11474
--SM 2.0 Score = 5291
--SM 3.0 Score = 5779
--CPU Score = 2350

(Graphics Tests)
--1 - Return To Proxycon = 43.4
--2 - Firefly Forest =44.78

(CPU Tests)
--CPU1 - Red Valley = 0.74
--CPU2 - Red Valley = 1.19

(HDR Tests)
--1 - Canyon Flight (SM 3.0) = 60.3
--2 - Deep Freeze (SM 3.0) = 55.21
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Lightsmark 2008

System 1

--1280x1024 Fullscreen = 267.0

System 2

--1280x1024 Fullscreen = 679.5
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SISoftware Sandra

PROCESSOR ARITHMETIC

System 1

(Benchmark Results)
--Dhrystone ALU = 6.27GIPS
--Whetstone iSSE3 = 6.60GFLOPS

(Performance Vs. Speed)
--Dhrystone ALU = 2.84MIPS/MHz
--Whetstone iSSE3 = 2.99MFLOPS/MHz

(Performance Vs. Power)
--Processor Power = 57.24W
--Dhrystone ALU = 109.57MIPS/W
--Whetstone iSSE3 = 115.30MFLOPS/W

System 2

(Benchmark Results)
--Dhrystone ALU = 21.61GIPS
--Whetstone iSSE3 = 18.60GFLOPS

(Performance Vs. Speed)
--Dhrystone ALU = 8.53MIPS/MHz
--Whetstone iSSE3 = 7.34MFLOPS/MHz

(Performance Vs. Power)
--Processor Power = 35.22W
--Dhrystone ALU = 613.71MIPS/W
--Whetstone iSSE3 = 528.08MFLOPS/W

PROCESSOR MULTIMEDIA

System 1

(Benchmark Results)
--Multi-Media Int x8 aSSE2 = 12.36MPixels/s
--Multi-Media Float x4 iSSE2 = 7.55MPixels/s
--Multi-Media Double x2 iSSE2 = 4.17MPixels/s

(Performance Vs. Speed)
--Multi-Media Int x8 aSSE2 = 5.60kPixels/s/MHz
--Multi-Media Float x4 iSSE2 = 3.42kPixels/s/MHz
--Multi-Media Double x2 iSSE2 = 1.89kPixels/s/MHz

(Performance Vs. Power)
--Processor Power = 57.24W
--Multi-Media Int x8 aSSE2 = 215.86kPixels/s/W
--Multi-Media Float x4 iSSE2 = 131.92kPixels/s/W
--Multi-Media Double x2 iSSE2 = 72.76kPixels/s/W

System 2

(Benchmark Results)
--Multi-Media Int x8 aSSE2 = 45.43MPixels/s
--Multi-Media Float x4 iSSE2 = 26.16MPixels/s
--Multi-Media Double x2 iSSE2 = 13.24MPixels/s

(Performance Vs. Speed)
--Multi-Media Int x8 aSSE2 = 17.94Pixels/s/MHz
--Multi-Media Float x4 iSSE2 = 10.33Pixels/s/MHz
--Multi-Media Double x2 iSSE2 = 5.23Pixels/s/MHz

(Performance Vs. Power)
--Processor Power = 35.22W
--Multi-Media Int x8 aSSE4.1 = 1290.01kPixels/s/W
--Multi-Media Float x4 iSSE2 = 742.84kPixels/s/W
--Multi-Media Double x2 iSSE2 = 376.04kPixels/s/W

VIDEO RENDERING

System 1

(Benchmark Results)
--Dx9c (SM3.0) Float Shaders = 77.35MPixels/s
--Dx9c (SM3.0) Double Shaders = 14.32MPixels/s

(Performance Vs. Speed)
--Dx9c (SM3.0) Float Shaders = 99.16kPixels/s/MHz
--Dx9c (SM3.0) Double Shaders = 18.36kPixels/s/MHz

(Performance Vs. Power)
--Device Power = 81.00W
--Dx9c (SM3.0) Float Shaders = 954.90kPixels/s/W
--Dx9c (SM3.0) Double Shaders = 176.78kPixels/s/W

System 2

(Benchmark Results)
--Dx9c (SM3.0) Float Shaders = 239.4777.35MPixels/s
--Dx9c (SM3.0) Double Shaders = 37.2877.35MPixels/s

(Performance Vs. Speed)
--Dx9c (SM3.0) Float Shaders = 165.15kPixels/s/MHz
--Dx9c (SM3.0) Double Shaders = 25.71kPixels/s/MHz

(Performance Vs. Power)
--Device Power = 197.00W
--Dx9c (SM3.0) Float Shaders = 1215.58kPixels/s/W
--Dx9c (SM3.0) Double Shaders = 189.23kPixels/s/W

GRAPHICS PROCESSING

System 1

(Benchmark Results)
--Native Float Shaders = 168.5Mpixels/s
--Native Double Shaders = 79.30Mpixels/s

(Performance Vs. Speed)
--Native Float Shaders = 216.03kPixels/s/MHz
--Native Double Shaders = 101.66kPixels/s/MHz

(Performance Vs. Power)
--Device Power = 81.00W
--Native Float Shaders = 2080.25kPixels/s/W
--Native Double Shaders = 978.96Pixels/s/W

System 2

(Benchmark Results)
--Native Float Shaders = 238.49Mpixels/s
--Emulated Double Shaders = 140.39Mpixels/s

(Performance Vs. Speed)
--Native Float Shaders = 164.48kPixels/s/MHz
--Emulated Double Shaders = 96823.27kPixels/s/MHz

(Performance Vs. Power)
--Device Power = 197.00W
--Native Float Shaders = 1210.62kPixels/s/W
--Emulated Double Shaders = 712658.63kPixels/s/W

GRAPHICS BANDWIDTH

System 1

(Benchmark Results)
--Internal Memory Bandwidth = 42.64GB/s
--Data Transfer Bandwidth = 2.26GB/s

(Detailed Benchmark Results)
--Internal Memory Bandwidth = 42.64GB/s
--System to Device Bandwidth = 2.18GB/s
--Bandwidth Efficiency = 55.91%
--Device to System Bandwidth = 2.92GB/s
--Bandwidth Efficiency = 74.78%

System 2

(Benchmark Results)
--Internal Memory Bandwidth = 56.16GB/s
--Data Transfer Bandwidth = 4.40GB/s

(Detailed Benchmark Results)
--Internal Memory Bandwidth = 56.16GB/s
--System to Device Bandwidth = 4.41GB/s
--Bandwidth Efficiency = 81.61%
--Device to System Bandwidth = 4.26GB/s
--Bandwidth Efficiency = 54.59%

MEMORY BANDWIDTH

System 1

(Benchmark Results)
--Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth = 4.60GB/s
--Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth = 4.60GB/s

(Performance Vs. Speed)
--Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth = 11.78MB/s/MHz
--Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth = 11.79MB/s/MHz

(Performance Vs. Power)
--Chipset Memory Power 15.05W
--Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth = 313.09MB/s/W
--Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth = 313.22MB/s/W

System 2

(Benchmark Results)
--Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth = 5.61GB/s
--Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth = 5.60GB/s

(Performance Vs. Speed)
--Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth = 7.16MB/s/MHz
--Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth = 7.15MB/s/MHz

(Performance Vs. Power)
--Chipset Memory Power = 27.01W
--Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth = 212.51313.09MB/s/W
--Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth = 212.44MB/s/W

MEMORY LATENCY

System 1

(Benchmark Results)
--Memory (Random Access) Latency = 92ns
--Speed Factor = 62.30

(Cache Information)
--Internal Data Cache = 3clocks
--L2 On-board Cache = 19clocks

(Performance Vs. Speed)
--Memory (Random Access) Latency = 0.23ns/MHz

(Performance Vs. Power)
--Chipset Memory Power 15.05W
--Memory (Random Access) Latency = 6.11ns/W

System 2

(Benchmark Results)
--Memory (Random Access) Latency = 92ns
--Speed Factor = 76.60

(Cache Information)
--Internal Data Cache = 3clocks
--L2 On-board Cache = 17clocks

(Performance Vs. Speed)
--Memory (Random Access) Latency = 0.11ns/MHz

(Performance Vs. Power)
--Chipset Memory Power = 27.01W
--Memory (Random Access) Latency = 3.41ns/W

CACHE and MEMORY

System 1

(Benchmark Results)
--Cache/Memory Bandwidth = 5.29GB/s
--Speed Factor = 7.80

(Cache Information)
--Internal Data Cache = 15.92GB/s
--L2 On-board Cache = 9.68GB/s

(Performance Vs. Speed)
--Cache/Memory Bandwidth = 2.46MB/s/MHz

(Performance Vs. Power)
--Processor/Chipset/Memory Power = 72.29W
--Cache/Memory Bandwidth = 74.89MB/s/W

System 2

(Benchmark Results)
--Cache/Memory Bandwidth = 21.49GB/s
--Speed Factor = 28.60

(Cache Information)
--Internal Data Cache = 114.54GB/s
--L2 On-board Cache = 33.41GB/s

(Performance Vs. Speed)
--Cache/Memory Bandwidth = 8.69/s/MHz

(Performance Vs. Power)
--Processor/Chipset/Memory Power = 62.22W
--Cache/Memory Bandwidth = 353.60MB/s/W

 

[Blain]

Why all the polls and indecision? Are you actually going to order Thursday, or is this just another dry run?

IF you're actually going to order thurday... go with ALL INTEL (P45/E8400), build you posted before.


I see You love Polls.

 

[JPB]

To be honest, each time I went to order...something always came up. This time it is being ordered whether something comes up or not because frankly I am not waiting any longer.

Anyway, I plan on running SLI so I would say the P45 is out.

I have $550 and I need a motherboard, cpu, video and memory. I already have everything else. Only the most important hardware is being replaced.

 

[Blain]

"I plan on running SLI so I would say the P45 is out"
"4. The only brand preferences I really have is Asus and ATI"



You can run Crossfire with ATI cards on the P45 MB.

 

[JPB]

This is a new thread, so can we not be posting things from my old one ? Times change and so does opinions of companies.

That being said, I am going with a Nvidia gpu.

 

[DSF]

An odd time to decide to change to Nvidia, what with ATI's cards currently being a little bit better for the money, but that's your choice.

There's no need for DDR2-1066 with an E8400. You'd be better off with 2x2GB DDR2-800. DDR2-1000 if you're really looking to push an overclock.

If you're looking for the best stability an Intel motherboard is going to be superior to an Nvidia one.

As far as which would be faster, it depends on what you're doing with the computer. In general my recommendation would be the E8400 without a doubt.

 

[JPB]

Thanks DSF. I am going to go with the E8400. And finally I am going to get into overclocking so I would like a good overclocker, Which the E8400 clearly is.

And about changing to Nvidia, I guess the real reason is that you simply cannot beat the price of the EVGA 9800GTX at $159. I don't like dealing with rebates and stuff. I know I could get a HD4850, but to get it to the price of the GTX I would have to use the rebate. And anyway, the cards arnt all that much different in speed any way.🙂

I was deciding on the DDR2-1066 so it would be good for overclocking. Does DDR2-800 overclock just as good ?

FINALLY get to upgrade. I am STILL running a Athlon 64 3500+ @ 2.2 :shocked: at 1920x1080 resolution. So yea, its time rebuild.

 

[JPB]

I was deciding on the DDR2-1066 so it would be good for overclocking. Does DDR2-800 overclock just as good ?

?

 

[theAnimal]

DDR2 800 is fine unless you want much more than 3.6GHz, then DDR2 1000 is good.

 

[disports]

I have the G.Skill DDR2-800 overclocked to DDR2-890 to be at 4.0GHz with the E8400, so it's plausible, but DDR2-1000 does give you more leeway.

 

[Denithor]

What're you using it for?

Check out this review over at xbitlabs comparing the e8600 to various quad-core cpus (including Q9400, Q8200 and X4 9950).

An E8400 overclocked to 3.6GHz or so will match an X4 in most applications and beat it badly in some. Even a fast C2D will lose to slower C2Q in applications that are optimized for multicore processors.

Another option in the same price range is the Q8200 (2.66GHz, 4MB cache) which basically matches the Q6600 at stock speeds. Once overclocked it handily beats even an overclocked X4.

 

[aclim]

first of all, I dont like the nforce chipsets at all. I would look at the Gigabyte board, or moreso the Asus P5Q Pro. Do that and screw SLI with a 9800? Get a nice single card. gtx 260/280, or a 48701gb. That RAM is ok, but why not get a 4gb 800mhz kit? It will probably OC to where you need it anyway.

Its my opinion but you could get better components for the money. Plus going back in tech and getting a 9800gtx i dont like. Just my opinion

 

[JPB]

Originally posted by: Denithor
What're you using it for?

Check out this review over at xbitlabs comparing the e8600 to various quad-core cpus (including Q9400, Q8200 and X4 9950).

An E8400 overclocked to 3.6GHz or so will match an X4 in most applications and beat it badly in some. Even a fast C2D will lose to slower C2Q in applications that are optimized for multicore processors.

Another option in the same price range is the Q8200 (2.66GHz, 4MB cache) which basically matches the Q6600 at stock speeds. Once overclocked it handily beats even an overclocked X4.

Based on the Core 2 Quads, which would actually be better here ? 2x4MB for the Q6600 or just 4MB for the Q8200 ?

Well, the rig will be using primarily for gaming. I was thinking about the E8400 because of the 6mb in cache. I just assumed it would be better. Whichever cpu I choose, has to be no more than $190 total for it alone.

first of all, I dont like the nforce chipsets at all. I would look at the Gigabyte board, or moreso the Asus P5Q Pro. Do that and screw SLI with a 9800? Get a nice single card. gtx 260/280, or a 48701gb. That RAM is ok, but why not get a 4gb 800mhz kit? It will probably OC to where you need it anyway.

Its my opinion but you could get better components for the money. Plus going back in tech and getting a 9800gtx i dont like. Just my opinion

Not enough funds to get a 260, 280 or even a 4870. I already stated I have to keep this around $550 for all 4 pieces of hardware.

 

[corkyg]

I voted for #1, but either one is decent. The main thing I am happy about is that you are willing to help revive the economy! 🙂

 

[disports]

could go

E8400 - $164.99
Gigabyte EP45-DS3L - $89.99 AR
G.Skill DDR2-800 - $54.99

leaves $240.03 leftover for video card (not including taxes, s&h)

 

[JPB]

Originally posted by: smithrwon
could go

E8400 - $164.99
Gigabyte EP45-DS3L - $89.99 AR
G.Skill DDR2-800 - $54.99

leaves $240.03 leftover for video card (not including taxes, s&h)

Exactly how good is that Gigabyte board ? I am searching for reviews now. The last Gigabyte board I ever purchased was the 7VAXP Socket A. 🙂

Depending on the board, I really like your suggestions though.

EDIT: And is it just me, or does that Gigabyte board look really narrow ?

 

[disports]

Not sure if it's narrow, but along with that board and the Asus P5Q Pro ($114.99) are the ones that are generally recommended for use

 

[Ichigo]

Get a cheaper CPU and get a more expensive GPU.

Duh.

 

[aatf510]

Originally posted by: Ichigo
Get a cheaper Motherboard and get a more expensive GPU.

Duh.

Fixed!
Seriously dude.. it's way better to get a $100 P45 motherboard (overclocks better, runs cooler) and forget about SLI.
Spend the extra cash on a 4870 and do Crossfire in the future (not that I recommend it, but at least P45 does support CF)
That way you get a rig that overclocks better & runs games with higher FPS!

 

[JPB]

That doesnt sound like a bad idea either. :thumbsup:

However, I am running Win XP Pro..so is 4 gig of memory really needed ?

 

[DSF]

Originally posted by: JPB
That doesnt sound like a bad idea either. :thumbsup:

However, I am running Win XP Pro..so is 4 gig of memory really needed ?

You'll probably be fine with 2GB, but that depends somewhat on how much stuff you like to have open, what types of programs you use, etc.

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: JPB
Purchase... next month

??? Now Thursday ???

As long as you're putting off your purchase until some point in time in the future...
Start yet another thread then. It's too early now to predict future "best buy" options. :roll:

 

[JPB]

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: JPB
Purchase... next month

??? Now Thursday ???

As long as you're putting off your purchase until some point in time in the future...
Start yet another thread then. It's too early now to predict future "best buy" options. :roll:

Yea, its called waiting on the GPU and getting better components TOMORROW with the $550.

If all you are going to post is smart ass remarks, then stay out of the thread.

But then again, I would be willing to bet you didnt even see the revised poll. :roll:

 

[disports]

Just to let you know, that G.Skill DDR2-800 got even cheaper. Now it's $49.99. To think that I paid $79.99 for them back in July. UGH!

 

[JPB]

Originally posted by: smithrwon
Just to let you know, that G.Skill DDR2-800 got even cheaper. Now it's $49.99. To think that I paid $79.99 for them back in July. UGH!

Thanks for the tip. I am changing to the DDR2-800. That price cannot be beat.

Is the the memory your referring to ?