RossMAN
Grand Nagus
- Feb 24, 2000
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Scarpozzi
Lifer
- Jun 13, 2000
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What did the guy that sold a waterbed on Craigslist look like?
Btw...that purchase explains a whole lot about you.
Same way you do everything else, research. The internet is simply such a powerful resource for research, combined with an even average intelligence and you can come to the same conclusion as you would trying the mattress - combine that with easy returns and what exactly is your argument against it? Inconvenience?
Simple stuff, physics, thermodynamics.. the brain's a powerful friggen tool when applied to something other than iPhone games.
utahraptor
Golden Member
- Apr 26, 2004
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It was kind of strange. It was just a normal middle class family at the house, but they all were there including like 3 children watching me evaluate this dismantled waterbed frame which basically amounts to a lot of wood boards and metal hardware. They were asking $75, but after looking at it for awhile I asked, "Will you take $50?" They agreed and I loaded it up.
I called around town and one mattress / furniture store happened to also sell the water bed mattresses themselves. I opted for the cheapest which has no foam in it so it is considered "full motion." So only the wood frame was used. The lady was not excited to sell it to me as there is no commission on $50.
BlitzPuppet
Platinum Member
- Feb 4, 2012
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SMOGZINN
Lifer
- Jun 17, 2005
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For those looking for resources for matteress I would suggest you check out these two websites:
http://sleepopolis-mattress-reviews.com/
http://www.mattressnerd.com/
I found them very useful in my (ongoing) search for a new sleep surface.
http://sleepopolis-mattress-reviews.com/
http://www.mattressnerd.com/
I found them very useful in my (ongoing) search for a new sleep surface.
Kaido
Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
- Feb 14, 2004
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For anyone looking for a bed frame for their bed-in-a-box, I just got an 18" Zinus metal frame & would recommend it:
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B017YETH8K
Pricing: (shipped)
If you get a memory foam bed, I also recommend getting bed protector. It's basically a waterproof or water-resistant bed wrap. Liquids soak into foam like crazy, so if you spill a drink or have a kid who wets the bed, good luck! Hanna Kay sells a good one on Amazon. You can get ones that are like fitted sheets or ones that wrap all the way around (useful if you want to flip your bed over now & then). For sheets, I'm going to try a pair of Amazon Basics sheet sets. I'm also in the market for a new pillow myself, right now the top contender is the Casper dual-layer pillow (pillow-in-a-pillow design). One other cool thing I recently discovered was the Nova Duvet cover (from a radio ad, of all things); it's basically a blanket that is made to look like it's already folded with a sheet. Slick!
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B017YETH8K
Pricing: (shipped)
- Twin: $80
- Twin X-Large: $85
- Full: $100
- Queen: $110
- King: $140
- California King: $140
- Crazy cheap. $110 for an all-metal frame is fantastic.
- Really sturdy. One of my bed frames is one of those IKEA wooden slat bases & I hate it.
- Folds in half. Really convenient for carrying up stairs & for storage.
- Easy to assemble for one person. I had it unboxed & setup in under 10 minutes.
- Queen is 2 frames that you bolt together - again, easy for one person to assemble.
- Has a bit of motion (slight wobble) even when fully locked down; I'll see if I can lock it down further, but the design is a split frame & only has 2 connecting bolts, plus the legs swing out & down (there are diagonal leg locks you lock down), so I think that's just how it is. It's not wobbly, just has a bit of motion.
- Silent, as advertised.
- This is the 18" model, which is awesome for storing stuff underneath. They sell shorter sizes as well.
- I would not recommend this size for kids...it's pretty high to fall off of.
- They sell a non-skid pad (like you put under rugs) separately & I would recommend it, it's easy to slide the bed off (not so easy you lay on it & it slides tho, but a non-skid base would really lock it down. MALOUF has one, as an alternative to the one from Zinus, which currently doesn't have Prime shipping)
If you get a memory foam bed, I also recommend getting bed protector. It's basically a waterproof or water-resistant bed wrap. Liquids soak into foam like crazy, so if you spill a drink or have a kid who wets the bed, good luck! Hanna Kay sells a good one on Amazon. You can get ones that are like fitted sheets or ones that wrap all the way around (useful if you want to flip your bed over now & then). For sheets, I'm going to try a pair of Amazon Basics sheet sets. I'm also in the market for a new pillow myself, right now the top contender is the Casper dual-layer pillow (pillow-in-a-pillow design). One other cool thing I recently discovered was the Nova Duvet cover (from a radio ad, of all things); it's basically a blanket that is made to look like it's already folded with a sheet. Slick!
Kaido
Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
- Feb 14, 2004
- 48,652
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Updates:
Twin bed project:
Was looking for a quality kid-sized bed. Already had a blanket & a couple pillows. Started out with the shorter 14" bed frame - less storage underneath than the 18" model, but also less painful for kids to roll off of because of the shorter drop. You definitely need the non-skid rug because even memory foam beds will slide off of the metal frame. Decided to try out a very short mattress to see how it compared to thicker memory foam mattresses; not bad, but you can still kind of feel the frame; the 2" topper helped by being squishy (dunno about the gel part because it just feels like foam & not sure about the cooling part either), and at 8" total with the bed, made the overall height 22" (vs. an 18" bed with a 12" mattress = 30" high). It's comfy, but not something I'd want to sleep on long-term - but great for children.
Also got a pair of twin sheets (tried out Amazon Basics, they're fine - 100% polyester microfiber) & a pair of mattress protectors (basically a waterproof fitted sheet, which is really important to get because memory foam will suck up fluids, so if your kids throw up in bed or wet the bed, your mattress is hosed without them). The protectors were pretty pricey at $27 each, but are machine-washable, which is nice. I keep the spare sheets & protector under the bed in a bed for conveniently swapping out bedding every week for laundry day or for if the sheets get soiled.
I initially considered a Casper bed ($450 with the $50 off coupon that's always floating around) & then a Leesa bed (a bit cheaper at $425 with the $75 off coupon they always have, not including the $25 Target gift card because you're still paying $425 OTD for the mattress). My bed is a memory foam bed from Bob's Discount Furniture (budget-friendly New England furniture store chain) & is actually extremely high quality; my guess is that the Casper, Leesa, and other competing beds are equal in quality to that model. The Zinus Sleep Master is more of a cheap but nice memory foam bed, so if you want to jump into memory foam on a budget, it's a great deal. I paid about $300 shipped for everything (BYO blanket & pillows), which included a very sturdy metal frame & non-skid pad, 6" foam mattress & 2" gel topper, and a pair of twin sheets & waterproof mattress protectors. That's $125 less than just the plain Leesa bed with no frame or other accessories for nearly a complete bed system. Here are links to everything:
This is our guest bed, or the one we use when someone gets sick & needs to be isolated in quarantine, haha. I had a cold recently & slept on my ancient queen mattress & woke up with back pain due to the old, smooshed coils, so that got chucked. Ended up getting another Zinus mattress, this time the thicker 12" Green Tea line, which is made up of:
Weighted blanket project:
I like to sleep with a lot of weight on me & usually have a few blankets piled on top of my sheet. I recently heard about weighted blankets for soldiers with PTSD & kids with special needs and decided to look into it. They've done some studies showing that the blankets are basically a form of deep-touch therapy, which is useful for reducing anxiety & insomnia. Like a good hug, it's supposed to be able to calm you down. This was a splurge, as they are really expensive to buy pre-made (mine was $225 plus a discount code for $22 off, plus $43 shipping, which is kind of insane in this day & age), but since I had saved so much money by not going with a Casper or Leesa, I went for the 54x78" minky blanket at 24 pounds (adult blankets range between 15 to 30 pounds; 24 was the heaviest available from Magic Weighted Blanket). Note that they are super easy to make & can be built at home for around $40, if you have any kind of sewing skills or friends with sewing skills (I don't have either, unfortunately).
In short, it's the bomb! It is surprisingly heavy & a bit difficult to pick up & move around because of how the weight distribution is handled (basically a soft outside with little bean bag sections sown in on the inside), but I really like it so far. Although I'm a somewhat big dude, I think 24 pounds is just a bit too heavy; at the right angle, it can affect breathing, haha. If I were to order again, I'd buy the next step down (18 pounds...but remember, the weight is distributed over the entire blanket), but having used this for a few days, I think I can get used to it. The extra weight gives you a pressure almost like when you're comfortably floating on your back in a pool with the water all around you; it's actually pretty relaxing & I've fallen asleep really quickly since I started using it. Plus I only have to pull one blanket over me & I'm all set for having a nice, heavy weight to get comfortable under, instead of a giant pile that I usually end up kicking off in the middle of the night.
One other thing I ordered (still waiting on delivery), is Nest latex & memory foam pillows. I ordered one of each. Another not-cheap buy, but I've been through half a dozen pillows in the last couple of years & have been waking up with kinks in the neck lately, so it's really time for me to invest in some quality pillows (getting old, ftl). I'm hoping these do the trick! They are the best-rated pillows on Sleepopolis. Regarding the overall cost & technology of bedding, this is one of the few areas where I'm willing to spend at least a bit of money...a good-quality bed & good-quality shoes. After years of toe & foot pain, I finally invested in a good pair of New Balance shoes with custom inserts & BOY were they worth the money. I feel the same way about my Bob's memory foam bed...it was over a grand at the time (~5 years ago), but I would buy it again in a heartbeat because I sleep so much better now.
Twin bed project:
Was looking for a quality kid-sized bed. Already had a blanket & a couple pillows. Started out with the shorter 14" bed frame - less storage underneath than the 18" model, but also less painful for kids to roll off of because of the shorter drop. You definitely need the non-skid rug because even memory foam beds will slide off of the metal frame. Decided to try out a very short mattress to see how it compared to thicker memory foam mattresses; not bad, but you can still kind of feel the frame; the 2" topper helped by being squishy (dunno about the gel part because it just feels like foam & not sure about the cooling part either), and at 8" total with the bed, made the overall height 22" (vs. an 18" bed with a 12" mattress = 30" high). It's comfy, but not something I'd want to sleep on long-term - but great for children.
Also got a pair of twin sheets (tried out Amazon Basics, they're fine - 100% polyester microfiber) & a pair of mattress protectors (basically a waterproof fitted sheet, which is really important to get because memory foam will suck up fluids, so if your kids throw up in bed or wet the bed, your mattress is hosed without them). The protectors were pretty pricey at $27 each, but are machine-washable, which is nice. I keep the spare sheets & protector under the bed in a bed for conveniently swapping out bedding every week for laundry day or for if the sheets get soiled.
I initially considered a Casper bed ($450 with the $50 off coupon that's always floating around) & then a Leesa bed (a bit cheaper at $425 with the $75 off coupon they always have, not including the $25 Target gift card because you're still paying $425 OTD for the mattress). My bed is a memory foam bed from Bob's Discount Furniture (budget-friendly New England furniture store chain) & is actually extremely high quality; my guess is that the Casper, Leesa, and other competing beds are equal in quality to that model. The Zinus Sleep Master is more of a cheap but nice memory foam bed, so if you want to jump into memory foam on a budget, it's a great deal. I paid about $300 shipped for everything (BYO blanket & pillows), which included a very sturdy metal frame & non-skid pad, 6" foam mattress & 2" gel topper, and a pair of twin sheets & waterproof mattress protectors. That's $125 less than just the plain Leesa bed with no frame or other accessories for nearly a complete bed system. Here are links to everything:
- Zinus 14" twin bed frame: $60
- Twin-sized non-skid pad: $15
- Zinus 6" Sleep Master memory foam twin mattress: $97
- 2" cooling gel topper: $47
- Amazon Basics twin sheet set: $14 x2 = $28
- Malouf waterproof mattress protector: $27 x2 = $54
This is our guest bed, or the one we use when someone gets sick & needs to be isolated in quarantine, haha. I had a cold recently & slept on my ancient queen mattress & woke up with back pain due to the old, smooshed coils, so that got chucked. Ended up getting another Zinus mattress, this time the thicker 12" Green Tea line, which is made up of:
- 3" memory foam
- 2" comfort foam
- 3.5" airflow high-density foam
- 3.5" airfow high-density base support foam
- Zinus 18" queen bed frame: $109
- Queen-sized non-skid pad: $18
- Zinus 12" Green Tea memory foam mattress: $289
- Mellanni queen sheet set: $33 x2 = $66
- Lucid noiseless waterproof mattress protector: $22 x2 = $44
Weighted blanket project:
I like to sleep with a lot of weight on me & usually have a few blankets piled on top of my sheet. I recently heard about weighted blankets for soldiers with PTSD & kids with special needs and decided to look into it. They've done some studies showing that the blankets are basically a form of deep-touch therapy, which is useful for reducing anxiety & insomnia. Like a good hug, it's supposed to be able to calm you down. This was a splurge, as they are really expensive to buy pre-made (mine was $225 plus a discount code for $22 off, plus $43 shipping, which is kind of insane in this day & age), but since I had saved so much money by not going with a Casper or Leesa, I went for the 54x78" minky blanket at 24 pounds (adult blankets range between 15 to 30 pounds; 24 was the heaviest available from Magic Weighted Blanket). Note that they are super easy to make & can be built at home for around $40, if you have any kind of sewing skills or friends with sewing skills (I don't have either, unfortunately).
In short, it's the bomb! It is surprisingly heavy & a bit difficult to pick up & move around because of how the weight distribution is handled (basically a soft outside with little bean bag sections sown in on the inside), but I really like it so far. Although I'm a somewhat big dude, I think 24 pounds is just a bit too heavy; at the right angle, it can affect breathing, haha. If I were to order again, I'd buy the next step down (18 pounds...but remember, the weight is distributed over the entire blanket), but having used this for a few days, I think I can get used to it. The extra weight gives you a pressure almost like when you're comfortably floating on your back in a pool with the water all around you; it's actually pretty relaxing & I've fallen asleep really quickly since I started using it. Plus I only have to pull one blanket over me & I'm all set for having a nice, heavy weight to get comfortable under, instead of a giant pile that I usually end up kicking off in the middle of the night.
One other thing I ordered (still waiting on delivery), is Nest latex & memory foam pillows. I ordered one of each. Another not-cheap buy, but I've been through half a dozen pillows in the last couple of years & have been waking up with kinks in the neck lately, so it's really time for me to invest in some quality pillows (getting old, ftl). I'm hoping these do the trick! They are the best-rated pillows on Sleepopolis. Regarding the overall cost & technology of bedding, this is one of the few areas where I'm willing to spend at least a bit of money...a good-quality bed & good-quality shoes. After years of toe & foot pain, I finally invested in a good pair of New Balance shoes with custom inserts & BOY were they worth the money. I feel the same way about my Bob's memory foam bed...it was over a grand at the time (~5 years ago), but I would buy it again in a heartbeat because I sleep so much better now.
Wuzup101
Platinum Member
- Feb 20, 2002
- 2,334
- 37
- 91
I bought my last mattress online, and I should have gotten it much sooner. I opted for a Christeli Danieli (https://www.christeli.com/mattresses/danieli) and I absolutely love it. I think they have updated it a little bit since I purchased mine, but I have friends who recently purchased one also (so I'll have to take a look at theirs).
There are a lot of great options online depending on what you want. This one feels like a firm Tempurpedic which I love.
There are a lot of great options online depending on what you want. This one feels like a firm Tempurpedic which I love.
Carson Dyle
Diamond Member
- Jul 2, 2012
- 8,173
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That's really interesting. Temple Grandin, famous for being very high functioning, but very autistic, developed a human squeeze machine, inspired by cattle squeeze chutes. Many autistic people have found them useful.
I have a hard time sleeping with very lightweight covers, but I also sleep very warm, so it can be a challenge.
For anyone looking for a bed frame for their bed-in-a-box, I just got an 18" Zinus metal frame & would recommend it:
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B017YETH8K
Pricing: (shipped)
I got the queen-sized for my guest room. Thoughts:
- Twin: $80
- Twin X-Large: $85
- Full: $100
- Queen: $110
- King: $140
- California King: $140
As far as the bed goes, I have a really old queen pillowtop that we just throw down on the floor when we have guests over (beats an inflatable!). It's pretty old at this point. I'm debating what mattress to replace it with. I was thinking either a Casper or Leesa, but I don't want to spend $800 on something we don't use that much. Zinus actually has their own memory foam mattress line; because the pillowtop is so tall (maybe 10" or 12"), I'm thinking about getting their 6" memory foam bed & putting their 2" cooling gel pad on top of that, just to try something different.
- Crazy cheap. $110 for an all-metal frame is fantastic.
- Really sturdy. One of my bed frames is one of those IKEA wooden slat bases & I hate it.
- Folds in half. Really convenient for carrying up stairs & for storage.
- Easy to assemble for one person. I had it unboxed & setup in under 10 minutes.
- Queen is 2 frames that you bolt together - again, easy for one person to assemble.
- Has a bit of motion (slight wobble) even when fully locked down; I'll see if I can lock it down further, but the design is a split frame & only has 2 connecting bolts, plus the legs swing out & down (there are diagonal leg locks you lock down), so I think that's just how it is. It's not wobbly, just has a bit of motion.
- Silent, as advertised.
- This is the 18" model, which is awesome for storing stuff underneath. They sell shorter sizes as well.
- I would not recommend this size for kids...it's pretty high to fall off of.
- They sell a non-skid pad (like you put under rugs) separately & I would recommend it, it's easy to slide the bed off (not so easy you lay on it & it slides tho, but a non-skid base would really lock it down. MALOUF has one, as an alternative to the one from Zinus, which currently doesn't have Prime shipping)
If you get a memory foam bed, I also recommend getting bed protector. It's basically a waterproof or water-resistant bed wrap. Liquids soak into foam like crazy, so if you spill a drink or have a kid who wets the bed, good luck! Hanna Kay sells a good one on Amazon. You can get ones that are like fitted sheets or ones that wrap all the way around (useful if you want to flip your bed over now & then). For sheets, I'm going to try a pair of Amazon Basics sheet sets. I'm also in the market for a new pillow myself, right now the top contender is the Casper dual-layer pillow (pillow-in-a-pillow design). One other cool thing I recently discovered was the Nova Duvet cover (from a radio ad, of all things); it's basically a blanket that is made to look like it's already folded with a sheet. Slick!
I have the Zinus 1500H and really like it. No squeaks yet but it's only 4 months old.
I also went with the Signature Sleep coil spring mattress (did not want memory foam) in a box for $200 since my body is not very picky about what I sleep on. It was a bit uncomfortable for the first week or so but now I'm used to it.
Installed on the top is the cheap, soft microfiber sheet set from walmart. It's definitely not high quality but feels plenty soft. There is a bit of pilling already and lint appears to stick to it a fair amount which really shows up on my white set.
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