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My 9800pro 256 wont overclock a damn inch!

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Pfunky

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Yeah my 9800 pro 256 wont overclock at all. My stock is 378/351. I tried using catalyst 3.7 and omega drivers. I can push the frequencies up and they run 3dmark 2001 and my directX 8 games no problem, but when I try runing 3dmark 2003 game 4 is heavily pixalated and aquamark is heavily pixalated. I just orderd a new power supply I hope it solves all my problems. I have a feeling my card is just not getting enough juice.
 
Yes a 350W PSU is recommended but I would think that Antec could handle it. Bump the voltage up a bit in the bios and see if it helps. Try radclocker or powerstrip. You may just have a card that won't OC or a heat issue.
 
As strange as it may seem, video cards are not guaranteed to OC a damn inch. The quality of each chip varies, and they are only guaranteed to run at the speed on the box. :Q

What I can't believe is that someone who has the best video card currently available, as well as one of the most expensive video cards currently available, would OC it at ALL for something as meaningless as a 3dmark score. :Q

You could damage the card, which would put you in the position of being a thief if you return it, or out out of a $450 vid card if you're an honest person with integrity. :Q

I know you're not OCing it for gaming functionality, because their are no current games that can stress this card, and the differences in fps on OCd cards are trivial
 
Originally posted by: Rollo
As strange as it may seem, video cards are not guaranteed to OC a damn inch. The quality of each chip varies, and they are only guaranteed to run at the speed on the box. :Q

What I can't believe is that someone who has the best video card currently available, as well as one of the most expensive video cards currently available, would OC it at ALL for something as meaningless as a 3dmark score. :Q

You could damage the card, which would put you in the position of being a thief if you return it, or out out of a $450 vid card if you're an honest person with integrity. :Q

I know you're not OCing it for gaming functionality, because their are no current games that can stress this card, and the differences in fps on OCd cards are trivial
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Nice post
 
Originally posted by: Rollo
[snip]................because their are no current games that can stress this card, and the differences in fps on OCd cards are trivial
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Is this true?
 
Originally posted by: Rollo
As strange as it may seem, video cards are not guaranteed to OC a damn inch. The quality of each chip varies, and they are only guaranteed to run at the speed on the box. :Q

What I can't believe is that someone who has the best video card currently available, as well as one of the most expensive video cards currently available, would OC it at ALL for something as meaningless as a 3dmark score. :Q

You could damage the card, which would put you in the position of being a thief if you return it, or out out of a $450 vid card if you're an honest person with integrity. :Q

I know you're not OCing it for gaming functionality, because their are no current games that can stress this card, and the differences in fps on OCd cards are trivial
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very true, I totally agree. But...oc'ing is fun and trying to get the best possible benches is fun.
 
Originally posted by: touchmyichi
Originally posted by: Rollo
As strange as it may seem, video cards are not guaranteed to OC a damn inch. The quality of each chip varies, and they are only guaranteed to run at the speed on the box. :Q

What I can't believe is that someone who has the best video card currently available, as well as one of the most expensive video cards currently available, would OC it at ALL for something as meaningless as a 3dmark score. :Q

You could damage the card, which would put you in the position of being a thief if you return it, or out out of a $450 vid card if you're an honest person with integrity. :Q

I know you're not OCing it for gaming functionality, because their are no current games that can stress this card, and the differences in fps on OCd cards are trivial
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very true, I totally agree. But...oc'ing is fun and trying to get the best possible benches is fun.
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It may be fun, but also totally pointless unless you have a 4.1Ghz OC'd P4 running at 1+GhzFSB and Ram@DDR533 to match, with a fully overclocked GFX card, all inside a Prometia cooling system....
 
Originally posted by: Alkali
It may be fun, but also totally pointless unless you have a 4.1Ghz OC'd P4 running at 1+GhzFSB and Ram@DDR533 to match, with a fully overclocked GFX card, all inside a Prometia cooling system....
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Wow I did not realize this. I have the 9800np @ 380/315, and my computer specs are nowhere near the above description.

I had been considering buying the 9800pro for my other rig around Christmas because I'm seeing these outrageous overclocks with the Pros, thinking it would improve the games. But this particular computer is even slower than my first.
 
But...oc'ing is fun and trying to get the best possible benches is fun.
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I'm not against OCing if you have a cheap part you want to try to make a fast part and you don't mind the loss if you burn it. Not many people have the stones and money to throw away a 256 RPro if they burn it up, and to return it in those circumstances is the same as stealing a new card.

There's no reason whatsoever to OC this card, it's the best there is. Maybe if ATI put the OC safety valve in their drivers that won't let the card get hot like nVidia has.
 
I know that my 9600 Pro is a much cheaper card but at stuck voltage it is doing 480/360 without any stability problems. I run Prime95 for 24 hours.
 
Originally posted by: Wedge1
Originally posted by: Rollo
[snip]................because their are no current games that can stress this card, and the differences in fps on OCd cards are trivial
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Is this true?
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"because their are no current games that can stress this card"

That is true.

"the differences in fps on OCd cards are trivial"

This is a HUGE load of BS. Tell me my Ti4200 overclocked to 325/650 didn't perform tremendously better than it did before I overclocked it
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Maybe if these "anti-overclockers" actually saw the results first hand they wouldn't make such ignorant statements.
 
Originally posted by: Alkali
Originally posted by: touchmyichi
Originally posted by: Rollo
As strange as it may seem, video cards are not guaranteed to OC a damn inch. The quality of each chip varies, and they are only guaranteed to run at the speed on the box. :Q

What I can't believe is that someone who has the best video card currently available, as well as one of the most expensive video cards currently available, would OC it at ALL for something as meaningless as a 3dmark score. :Q

You could damage the card, which would put you in the position of being a thief if you return it, or out out of a $450 vid card if you're an honest person with integrity. :Q

I know you're not OCing it for gaming functionality, because their are no current games that can stress this card, and the differences in fps on OCd cards are trivial
Click to expand...

very true, I totally agree. But...oc'ing is fun and trying to get the best possible benches is fun.
Click to expand...

It may be fun, but also totally pointless unless you have a 4.1Ghz OC'd P4 running at 1+GhzFSB and Ram@DDR533 to match, with a fully overclocked GFX card, all inside a Prometia cooling system....
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No, it's not pointless. Overclocking a video card will make the video card run faster, obviously. So in applications where the video card limits the performance, such as Unreal 2: The Awakening with 4XAA and 8XAF... I guarantee you'll see an improvement. Will it make a difference in Quake 3 at 640x480 with no AA and no AF? No, because then that game would be platform limited, not limited by the video card.

And by the way... in what way does DDR533 RAM match a 1 Ghz FSB???????
 
Thats what a retail warranty is for. If Rollo thinks that is wrong and evil, thats his perogative.
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You must be one of two types of people Johnbear:1. Has stolen a video card after destroying it 2. Would steal one if necessary

Manufacturer's Warranty in my kid's PNY 4200 states that they warrant it to be free of defect and void if they determine subject to "Misuse, neglect, damaged in an accident, repaired or altered, or improperly installed".

I think most warranties read the same way, but let's use your logic Johnbear. I buy a 4200, double it's clock speed and burn it up. I have them send me another because I'm dense and think "normal operation" means double clock speed. I burn it up. They send me another and at this point I've gotten 3 video cards for the price of one. When does it become theft if I keep burning up vid cards Johnbear? 5? 10? 15?

Do you think most vendors would honor the warranty if you told them up front you were running at above the stock clock speed? Uh huh. Or do you lie and say it just stopped working?

So steal all the cards you like, you're the one that has to look in the mirror and see a thief who's stolen another man's work, not me.
 
Originally posted by: Rollo
Thats what a retail warranty is for. If Rollo thinks that is wrong and evil, thats his perogative.
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You must be one of two types of people Johnbear:1. Has stolen a video card after destroying it 2. Would steal one if necessary

Manufacturer's Warranty in my kid's PNY 4200 states that they warrant it to be free of defect and void if they determine subject to "Misuse, neglect, damaged in an accident, repaired or altered, or improperly installed".

I think most warranties read the same way, but let's use your logic Johnbear. I buy a 4200, double it's clock speed and burn it up. I have them send me another because I'm dense and think "normal operation" means double clock speed. I burn it up. They send me another and at this point I've gotten 3 video cards for the price of one. When does it become theft if I keep burning up vid cards Johnbear? 5? 10? 15?

Do you think most vendors would honor the warranty if you told them up front you were running at above the stock clock speed? Uh huh. Or do you lie and say it just stopped working?

So steal all the cards you like, you're the one that has to look in the mirror and see a thief who's stolen another man's work, not me.
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That's right!
 
Originally posted by: touchmyichi
Originally posted by: Rollo
As strange as it may seem, video cards are not guaranteed to OC a damn inch. The quality of each chip varies, and they are only guaranteed to run at the speed on the box. :Q

What I can't believe is that someone who has the best video card currently available, as well as one of the most expensive video cards currently available, would OC it at ALL for something as meaningless as a 3dmark score. :Q

You could damage the card, which would put you in the position of being a thief if you return it, or out out of a $450 vid card if you're an honest person with integrity. :Q

I know you're not OCing it for gaming functionality, because their are no current games that can stress this card, and the differences in fps on OCd cards are trivial
Click to expand...

very true, I totally agree. But...oc'ing is fun and trying to get the best possible benches is fun.
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i find benchmarking boring actually
you should feel free to go outside today 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7181


And by the way... in what way does DDR533 RAM match a 1 Ghz FSB???????
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Well if the Ram is 533Mhz, and the FSB is 1066Mhz, then you have 1:2 ratio don't you? 😛
 
"u know y right its cuz that video card SUCK and ti4600 rapes woot!!"

"tret ur right about that but, my friend duals sony moniters own to much"




Your 7th grade english teacher just had a heart attack.
 
increasing my 9700pro core 9Mhz gave me about 5 FPS more

I lapped my crystal orb and re-applied it to my 9700 to see what I could squeeze

went from 360 to 369

I noticed that some clock settings give a lot more FPS than others

(and remember not to OC past the point of diminished return)

__________ if your getting artifacts on a slight OC ,,, I'd check the HSF unit
(but you cant return it after modification)

watch the "Da Bears" in thier new stadium tonight ! 😛
 
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