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My 9800pro 256 wont overclock a damn inch!

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Bravo, well said Rollo. I couldn't agree more!
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Thanks Tigereye. This form of fraud has always been kind of a sore spot with me, you used to see a lot more posts about people bragging how they'd burned up their card and RMA'd for a new one.

Like I said, if you want to buy a Ti4200 and OC it to Ti4600 performance, knowing you may shorten it's useful life but willing to eat the loss if it dies, who cares?

You can see a big difference in performance on a low end card or cpu if you can clock it high enough, because there's not enough performance there to start with. A R9800P 256MB isn't going to show any functional difference, the fps are already sky high.
 
I know what you're saying rollo and I agree with you that you take a risk when overclocking, and it is one that should not allow you to scam the vendor/manufacturer when you burn a card out by doing so.

That being said, I have sort of been under an assumption that the high-end gaming card companies (whoever those guys are) pretty much try to account for the fact that no matter how much they forewarn consumers not to overclock, they will do so, regardless.

Is this a false assumption? I mean, granted, you will never see nv or ati post an official document that says "we have created a safety zone for overclocking", but still, they know who buys the high-end gaming cards and what they will try to do to them.

Again, not disputing anything here. You overclock your card and burn it up, it's your fault. You were warned. Buy a new one.

But I'm wondering if I have been under a false impression with the whole high-end overclocking scene, which is that most modern high-end 3D cards are built with some overclocking potential in mind. Can anybody add an educated guess on this matter?
 
I don't think they're built with OCing potential in mind, I think it's easier to sell parts set to one speed. They probably just test and set to the highest speed they can where enough chips will run at that speed error free for a profitable yield.
Some chips barely make the threshold, some can go much higher.
 
Thanks for all the input.

OK I have come to the realization that the main inhibitor to my overclock is heat. The stock heat solution the card came with is totally inadequate. Which is unaccepatable for a card of this price. The other night the temps where I live dropped to I guess 59F so I opened the window to my computer room. After the room cooled off I tried over clocking my card I was able to manage 410/370 with no artifacts. I just placed my order for the Vantec VGA cooler and for some Tweak Monster Ram Sinks. I will post my results after I install them.

And for Mr. Rollo, for calling me a thief. I didn't ask for a diatribe about what I should do with my hardware that I purchased for my computer. I asked for help from knowledgeable people to help overclock my card. Clearly you are not one of them. So why did you find it necessary to post. Perhaps you think that the amount of posts you have on this forum somehow elevates your selfworth. Sad.
 
I have a 9800 Pro, and find that overclocking, even by as much as 45mhz results in minimal (2-5fps in America's Army 1280x1024 4xAA8xAF) gain. No point in OCing here.
 
Originally posted by: Granorense
I know that my 9600 Pro is a much cheaper card but at stuck voltage it is doing 480/360 without any stability problems. I run Prime95 for 24 hours.
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Erm...........your GPU is doing pi calculations now??? :Q
 
And for Mr. Rollo, for calling me a thief.
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I didn't call you a thief. I said you're doing something pointless that may put you in the position of being a thief, or taking a $450 loss. Big difference.
 
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Originally posted by: Jeff7181


And by the way... in what way does DDR533 RAM match a 1 Ghz FSB???????
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Well if the Ram is 533Mhz, and the FSB is 1066Mhz, then you have 1:2 ratio don't you? 😛
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Well make up your mind... which is it, 1 Ghz or 1066 Mhz? You say it's "close enough?" Tell that to the guy who can't get his P4 stable with a FSB higher than 250 mhz 😀
 
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