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My 5 year old just got sent to the Dean's office for saying "I'll kill you"
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CPA
Elite Member
so there was a "case" of a problem 7 year old shooting a classmate who was shown by a 17 year old on how to use a gun. While I appreciate the attempt to back up your claim, this type of situation was a one time exception. Plus, sunnyD's child has not had a history of bad behavior and violence like this kid did. Not to mention the 2 year age difference which is huge in children's brain development.
There is a STEEP salary climb., which gets to an average of $53,535 in my district, which just got out of state receivership.
They also get SERS or STRS, instead of our POS, Social Security crap:
- All School District employees are covered by the state-wide School Employees Retirement System of Ohio (SERS) or the State Teachers Retirement System (STRS).
- On the other hand, it is apparent that teachers are counting every minute they are at school in reporting their workweek. Since teachers report working 38 hours a week at school during the school day and most district contracts specify that teachers? entire school day runs about seven and a half hours ? or about 37 to 38 hours a week ? it is clear that the reported working day includes lunch breaks and preparation periods. If teachers use much of their lunch break and preparation period to relax, eat lunch, and socialize ? which is the norm in my experience as it is in almost any line of work ? they are actually teaching, planning, and grading about six and a half hours a day in school, or about 33 hours a week. Accepting at face value teachers? self-reports about their workload at home and with students after school, the typical teacher is working about 45 hours a week, all told. This is perfectly respectable but hardly unusual. - Text
DrPizza
Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
Sometimes more than 60... well more than 60.
Since I just finished a graduate class on this very issue, allow me to summarize $2000 worth of education:
It's not completely about safety and the fear of columbine...
It's about the fear of lawsuits in a very litigious society. Such comments = automatically sent to office. Otherwise, suppose the kid is still mad after school (or even gets mad over a completely separate incident that occurs later) - you've got 20 witnesses that student A threatened student B, even if it seemed harmless; but following a fight, and a parent looking for easy $$$, you've got a lawsuit.
I was amazed at the number of lawsuits brought up against schools. I didn't know before. There are people out there who see schools as an easy target for suits.
alphatarget1
Diamond Member
Another fine example of public school education.
Tell your kid that what he said was wrong and leave it at that. Your kid didn't even know what it meant! I remember saying something like that to my mom once, except it was like "i'll kill the teacher" or something. I didn't even know what it meant until my mom told me not to say it and explained what it was.
Tell your kid that what he said was wrong and leave it at that. Your kid didn't even know what it meant! I remember saying something like that to my mom once, except it was like "i'll kill the teacher" or something. I didn't even know what it meant until my mom told me not to say it and explained what it was.
iamme
Lifer
unfortunately, that's the world we live in.
hopefully, the school doesn't get out of hand and do anything drastic.
the way i see this situation, the parents should sit down with their kids and parents on both sides should communicate with each other and the teacher. no reason to blow this out of proportion. in kindergarten, kids could pick up this kind of language just watching Cartoon Network.
hopefully, the school doesn't get out of hand and do anything drastic.
the way i see this situation, the parents should sit down with their kids and parents on both sides should communicate with each other and the teacher. no reason to blow this out of proportion. in kindergarten, kids could pick up this kind of language just watching Cartoon Network.
WhiteKnight
Platinum Member
4 year old
5 year old
Another 4 year old
I'm not saying that this is a common occurence by any means. I'm just saying that it's possible and the teacher shouldn't be blamed. This is why zero tolerance policies are called zero tolerance. I don't know anything about the school that the OP's son attends, but perhaps they have already had staff training that directs teachers to pass up cases like this.
MrCodeDude
Lifer
My little cousin would say sh!t, it was one of the few words in her limited vocabulary. But once she'd yell it out, she'd giggle because all the adults would look at her. She didn't know what it meant, she just knew she'd get attention if she said it.
wow. you want to be quick to blame the school system for the sh!t spewing out of your own kid's mouth?
never once in my entire upbringing have i ever uttered the words, "I'll kill you."
work with your kid and stop blaming the damn school system.
you're pissing me off for passing the blame here.
never once in my entire upbringing have i ever uttered the words, "I'll kill you."
work with your kid and stop blaming the damn school system.
you're pissing me off for passing the blame here.
Oh please, stop trying to blame the school for your own lack of parenting skills. As kids sure we all said dumb stuff, but I doubt that anyone here has ever said "I'll kill you" in KINDERGARTEN! You and your wife apparently need to learn how to watch your mouths around your kid. Speaking of which, why in the hell is your wife saying "I'll kill you" in the first place?
Theres 1 teacher and 25+ children. They spend about 1 hour per WEEKDAY, while you spend hours with your child individually everyday. At least I hope you are. Teachers are there to educate your children with necessary SCHOOL skills. They aren't there to babysit your child and bring them up for you. Its your own damn responsiblity to discipline your child and FURTHER educate your child on what he should and shouldn't say.
It's hilarious how all the people here are quick to blame the school for becoming so political correct. How about parents do their own damn job because then the school wouldn't have to deal with such BS in the first place. Problems at school are more often than not a result of problems at HOME. Everyone is quick to the blame school system for failing in educating children when they should be looking at themselves.
Theres 1 teacher and 25+ children. They spend about 1 hour per WEEKDAY, while you spend hours with your child individually everyday. At least I hope you are. Teachers are there to educate your children with necessary SCHOOL skills. They aren't there to babysit your child and bring them up for you. Its your own damn responsiblity to discipline your child and FURTHER educate your child on what he should and shouldn't say.
It's hilarious how all the people here are quick to blame the school for becoming so political correct. How about parents do their own damn job because then the school wouldn't have to deal with such BS in the first place. Problems at school are more often than not a result of problems at HOME. Everyone is quick to the blame school system for failing in educating children when they should be looking at themselves.
20 or 30 years ago this would be no big deal. But 20 or 30 years ago 5 year children didn't kill people, and these days there have been incidents of children at that age killing playmates. I certainly would feel uncomfortable if my 5 year old came home and told me that another kid said he was going to kill him. I would be pissed.....🙁
SunnyD
Belgian Waffler
And you obviously aren't a parent either.
I will be the first to admit my parenting skills aren't perfect. Then again, if anyone ever does, I will call them a liar immediately. However such language is not used in my home, and never has been - as new evidence brings to light. However, I do entrust my son to the school system from 8am to 3pm on a daily basis. The school is responsible for his wellbeing AND his behavior during those hours.
So no, you're right. The school is not a baby sitter. It is infact a surrogate parent during those hours, which is supposed to at least be supporting my role as a parent.
invalidiuser
Banned
I agree that teachers these days are so eager to jump the gun and not talk to the parents first. I have a friend who has kids and this one time one of the kids a 4 year old happend to find one match and lit it up to show his brother and sisters.
The kid that was in kindergarten talked to the teacher that he saw a match light up and the teacher jumped the gun and called child services on them. They were under child services monitor for 6 months (a child services visits and stay with them for about 2 hours everyday for 6 months teaching them how to parent kids) and another 6 months kinda of like on probation saying that they don't know how to take care of their children.
I was just thinking why was this not taken up with the parents first to let them know that one of their kids talked about it in class. I mean how stupid is that. Wouldn't you want to confirm it with the parents or talk to the parents about it first before even calling child services on them just because a kid said something that either A, was true or B, making up stories or C, a different story as to what happended. Maybe the kid was lighting a birthday cake for all they know. But they will believe a kid rather then a grown up. How sad these days. 🙁
How about this, heres a good idea. Find someone you really hate with kids. Pay the kid to lie to a teacher or cop about the parents sexually abusing them, touching them, abusing them, doing nasty stuff to them, etc.. With all these eager gun jumper the those people that you hate will definately go to jail. Problem solve to get rid of people you hate. 🙂
But anyways,
I guess there is alot of dumb people in this world instead of people that uses common sense first. It's kind of like guilty until proven innocent and not innocent until proven guilty.
I guess the world is just coming to an end or something nowadays.
The kid that was in kindergarten talked to the teacher that he saw a match light up and the teacher jumped the gun and called child services on them. They were under child services monitor for 6 months (a child services visits and stay with them for about 2 hours everyday for 6 months teaching them how to parent kids) and another 6 months kinda of like on probation saying that they don't know how to take care of their children.
I was just thinking why was this not taken up with the parents first to let them know that one of their kids talked about it in class. I mean how stupid is that. Wouldn't you want to confirm it with the parents or talk to the parents about it first before even calling child services on them just because a kid said something that either A, was true or B, making up stories or C, a different story as to what happended. Maybe the kid was lighting a birthday cake for all they know. But they will believe a kid rather then a grown up. How sad these days. 🙁
How about this, heres a good idea. Find someone you really hate with kids. Pay the kid to lie to a teacher or cop about the parents sexually abusing them, touching them, abusing them, doing nasty stuff to them, etc.. With all these eager gun jumper the those people that you hate will definately go to jail. Problem solve to get rid of people you hate. 🙂
But anyways,
I guess there is alot of dumb people in this world instead of people that uses common sense first. It's kind of like guilty until proven innocent and not innocent until proven guilty.
I guess the world is just coming to an end or something nowadays.
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