My 2016 Prediction

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Lifer
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Again Benghazi isn't going to be about Benghazi, it's going to be about her emotionality and apparent inability to stay cool under pressure.

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Jhhnn

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More desperate than serious. The public is sick of Benghazi bullshit, have been for some while. Any mention of it is an instant forgetaboutit. Bow-ring. In one ear & right out the other, in a good way.

We'll see her opponents loading the slime cannon with their own shit before it's over.
 

Mxylplyx

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Again Benghazi isn't going to be about Benghazi, it's going to be about her emotionality and apparent inability to stay cool under pressure.

Ahh yes, lets see Republicans run with an attack line accusing the female Democratic nominee of being too "emotional". It will do wonders with their already tepid support among female voters.
 

Mxylplyx

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Republicans that have watched fox news for the past 15 yrs are convinced that the entire country is on board with their constantly reinforced narrative that Hillary is a she-devil. I guess reality will slap them in the face yet again in 2016. Imagine how many seemingly dutiful, obedient wives in the south are going to go to the polls and vote for Hillary, and tell their husbands otherwise. I bet it will be quite a few.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
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When you have nearly all the same mentors/advisors as George, it's about George as much as it is about Jeb.

It goes even deeper than that. It's the political ideology that the Bush family lives by. Jeb can take a train to Texas where George took a plane that had a couple of layovers, but they both end up in the same place. When asked about it, Jeb can nuance his way around something George did in office but he'd end up making the same mistakes anyway because his ideology compels him to.

Jeb's benefactors will demand that he repeat what George did because they made huge profits while George was in office. It didn't matter at all that the nation sank into a stinking economic quagmire because up or down, the Bush family and their godparents made out like bandits due to the demands made on Bush and that's all that really matters to them.
 

Jhhnn

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When you have nearly all the same mentors/advisors as George, it's about George as much as it is about Jeb.

It's about refusal to admit error, to stay the course regardless of past performance. It's about denial.

Iraq may have been a mistake, but they'd make the same mistake all over again.

35 years of trickle down economics may have yielded less than optimal results, but it's still the right thing to do. Tax cuts at the top promote growth rather than hoarding.

Deregulated finance nearly collapsed the economy but they wouldn't have it any other way.

Offshoring may deprive Americans of jobs & opportunity, but the people have no right to seek compensation in other ways.

The justice system may yield racist results, but that doesn't mean it's racist.

I could go on, but people who don't understand that likely never will because they're cowards when it comes to examining their own most cherished beliefs.
 

Indus

Lifer
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Don't argue with him, if the right wing couldn't win with a bad economy against a black guy from Kenya, do you really think they could win against a white woman from Arkansas with a good economy and Bill clinton by her side?
 

dank69

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Well within the error range I am sure.
I am sure you assume the errors all go in your favor as well like a good little conservative.

Your claim: Hillary is the most dishonest.

Claim status: Demonstrably False.
 

soundforbjt

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I think it is going to be a lot closer than you Libs think.

I agree it could be, actually going by history Republicans should win. But as we've seen in the past, all it takes is some slip-up (remember 47%?) and they lose. Trump's Mexican tirades could sway Jeb's feeble attempt of speaking in Spanish (as his brother did) to secure the latino vote.
 

Jhhnn

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Bernie Sanders grabs the flag on a resonant issue-

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/19/bernie-sanders-marijuana_n_7337454.html

"Colorado has led the effort toward legalizing marijuana and I'm going to watch very closely to see the pluses and minuses of what they have done," Sanders wrote on Reddit. "I will have more to say about this issue within the coming months."

Dirty rotten socialist bastard!

Hillary can chime right in, of course, leaving the Repub field sucking hind tit or no tit at all...
 

bshole

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Those links say Jeb is slightly more dishonest than Hillary.


I'm all atwitter.... we get Jeb/Hillary this time around. Next up will be Chelsea/some random Bush kid. Are we ever going to get off this merry-go-round? We are already have had more than a quarter century of these two families, are we going for a half-century? a century?
 

dank69

Lifer
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I'm all atwitter.... we get Jeb/Hillary this time around. Next up will be Chelsea/some random Bush kid. Are we ever going to get off this merry-go-round? We are already have had more than a quarter century of these two families, are we going for a half-century? a century?
Were people this frothy about a "Bush Dynasty" back when Dubya was first running for President?
 

bshole

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Were people this frothy about a "Bush Dynasty" back when Dubya was first running for President?


Dunno... I am sick to the puke point of both families (but especially the Bush family). I want dynamic young new leaders that are completely disconnected from the people who have held power for the last three decades.
 

werepossum

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I agree it could be, actually going by history Republicans should win. But as we've seen in the past, all it takes is some slip-up (remember 47%?) and they lose. Trump's Mexican tirades could sway Jeb's feeble attempt of speaking in Spanish (as his brother did) to secure the latino vote.
Maybe, but as Romney found out there are a lot more young and minority voters now, not to mention a lot more Americans on assistance. And where previously conservatives could rely on young people maturing, that doesn't make their social views more conservative, and the Pubbies' social views are way out of line with mainstream America. I suspect the reason we have so many contenders is this history, and probably Hillary as the opponent, but I think the Pubbies are in for a rude surprise if they are relying on the pendulum effect of the past.

Bernie Sanders grabs the flag on a resonant issue-

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/19/bernie-sanders-marijuana_n_7337454.html



Dirty rotten socialist bastard!

Hillary can chime right in, of course, leaving the Repub field sucking hind tit or no tit at all...
Wow, how brave of a politician to promise to closely watch a controversial issue.
 

werepossum

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Were people this frothy about a "Bush Dynasty" back when Dubya was first running for President?
No, but Bush himself caused some of it; he would never have come close without his family name. For the rest, Hillary is a particularly dislikeable example, and while Jeb may be an affable oaf or even a smart guy with the Bush children's verbal dyslexia, he is the third. There were heroic efforts to move Teddy into the White House and they came to naught, and people liked JFK and RFK a hell of a lot more than either Bush. Barbara might be the exception but surely a lot of that was her being apolitical. It's just easier to like people not trying to get power.