My 2010 Corolla makes me very angry

[PhoKingGuy]

Yeah, it's ridiculous how hard people will work towards putting their lives in danger. Oh well, natural selection will take care of them eventually (hopefully before they have the chance to breed).

Edit: And no one rides in my car without a seatbelt, even if it's legal for them to do so (>16yo in the back seat). I always tell them that they might not care enough to wear their seatbelt, but I don't want to live with the guilt of killing them when some idiot plows into us on the highway. They can either wear their seatbelt or not ride with me.

QFT, I don't leave until everyone's got their belts on.

 

[JulesMaximus]

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In my Tempo, there was a little indicator on the dash to tell you that your seatbelt is not done up, but it wouldn't make any noise. My Civic was slightly more annoying as it would beep every few seconds then eventually give up. This Corolla is relentless. It will beep forever until both the driver and the front passenger are wearing seatbelts. My brother and my best friend don't like wearing seatbelts, so the car will annoy the fuck out of me until they decide to put their seatbelts on.

I just had to get this stuff off my chest. So far it's a pretty good car and nothing has fallen apart yet, but it sure has a lot of annoying problems. Whoever thought of the beeping seatbelt thing should be shot.

No matter how bad your Corolla is it is still much better than a Tempo.

And what kind of idiot rides in a car without wearing a seatbelt?

 

[Pliablemoose]

LOL @ this thread, did the OP think he was buying a Mercedes?

A car is a car is a car, they're so much better than the ones we had when I grew up I really don't find much reason to buy one over another aside from massive differences like convertible tops etc...

My daughter has an 03' Corolla, and it's a flipping appliance-like car, you want something that makes you excited, buy something cooler and used, you want reliability, buy a new jelly bean shaped car from manufacturer XYZ...

I'd 20 times rather have a cool used car than an appliance.

And who in the fuck is stupid enough to not wear a seatbelt? In my cars they wear a damn seatbelt or they get the hell out of my car. I've sat in the middle of the highway holding traction on a woman's head after she was ejected from a car, cuz she didn't wear a seatbelt, you can't imaging how jacked up she was from that, those kind of accident victims are called ragdoll'd cuz they break so many bones, they're like a ragdoll when you scrape them up off the ground and onto a stretcher.

You may as well just go base jumping without a parachute if you're not going to wear a seatbelt, nearly the same effect...

 

[yh125d]

I wasn't aware Toyotas could encite emotional reactions in their owners, I thought that was the point


But I suppose if it were possible, anger would be the most likely emotion

 

[Pliablemoose]

I wasn't aware Toyotas could encite emotional reactions in their owners, I thought that was the point


But I suppose if it were possible, a coma would be the most likely emotion

Fixed that for you...

 

[vi edit]

I wasn't aware Toyotas could encite emotional reactions in their owners, I thought that was the point

Try buying a model with the "stuck accellerator" option. That makes things more fun!

 

[Gibson486]

Try buying a model with the "stuck accellerator" option. That makes things more fun!

some even have had a non working brake option, it's to bad not many people knew about it unless they got a letter stating they had unintentionally gave them the option. Hey, free is free

 

[Zenmervolt]

Headlights cannot be turned off
Cars in Canada are required to have day-running lights that never turn off. This is what the car will run if the knob is set to off. 1 click turns on the parking lights, just like every other car. 1 more click turns on the headlights, just like ever other car. Once the night time headlights are on and car is running, they cannot be turned off until the car is turned off. If I get some drive through mcdonalds at night then eat in my car, I'm blinding the shit out of everyone who drives by because I can't turn the lights off. If I stop on your driveway and I'm waiting for you, my headlights are shining into your living room and I can't turn them off. If I'm parked at a slight upward angle and my headlights are shining directly into the eyes of incoming drivers, I can't turn them off unless I turn the engine off.

Toyotas have "automatic" lights that come on based on a sensor. You can override the sensor to turn the lights on when the sensor thinks they should be off, but you can never override the sensor if it thinks they should be on. You can thank everyone who has ever raved about automatic headlights for this "feature".

The clock is located in a very strange place
In most cars, the clock is part of the stereo. When looking at the road, the clock is high enough on the dash that it can be seen in peripheral vision. We can know what time it is without looking directly at the clock or taking our eyes off the road. In a Corolla, the clock is located as far down as possible. It's right next to the 12V power outlet and there's no way to look at it without looking away from the road and turning my head down.

Uh... The photos of the 2010 Corolla all show the clock as being located within the tachometer in the same way that the odometer is located within the speedometer.

Traction control cannot be turned off
Traction control is generally a nice feature and I'm really glad this car has it. The problem is that I can't toggle it off. There's a button to temporarily disable it, but it turns itself on again once the car moves faster than ~30mph. This is bad because the car has much better acceleration when the traction control is turned off. Without traction control, the snow tires spin and throw a bunch of snow around, but the car still accelerates quickly. With traction control, the computer aggressively cuts power and the acceleration is horrible as a result. Traction control is mostly a feature to prevent getting stuck and it does almost nothing useful once the car is moving, so it seems very odd that it would be a toggle-off rather than toggle-on button.

Push and hold the button for several seconds while the car is stationary. This will turn off the traction control at all speeds until the next time you start the car. Every single vehicle I've ever driven with traction control will default to "on" when the vehicle is started.

The cruise control sucks
My last compact cars were a Honda Civic and a Ford Tempo. The Tempo had a cable driven accelerator, and I could feel the pedal go right to the floor when the cruise control tried to maintain speed. It usually didn't work too well since that Tempo had less power than a bicycle, but at least it tried its best. My Civic would also go wide open throttle to maintain speed, and it could usually pull it off because it had a lot more power than the Tempo. That Civic could maintain cruise on a relatively steep hill in fifth gear. Cruise in the Corolla is just pathetic. It doesn't even try. Rather than keep it in 4th gear (top gear) and floor it, the cruise control will drop to third then rev up to 4000 just to get up the most pathetic hill imaginable. It makes the ride a lot jerkier when the cruise is constantly jumping between third and fourth gear because it won't open the throttle enough. I've driven the manual transmission version of this car, and I know for a fact that it could easily stay in top gear and maintain speed, but for some reason the automatic loves to fuck around.

Welcome to automatic transmissions. They downshift based on engine load and when the throttle opens a lot, they downshift. Every automatic does this.

Terrible highway performance
The maximum speed my brother and I could get this car up to was 108mph, and the acceleration is slow enough that passing a car driving 60mph is a considerable challenge. It takes long enough that it's a bit scary. Comparatively, my 2006 Honda Civic had a top of speed of 125mph (it would govern itself at that speed), could easily pass cars on the highway, and got the same gas mileage while doing so.

Welcome to economy cars with automatic transmissions. Should have test-driven the car first.

The OEM remote starter is very strange
I can understand a remote starter behaving weird, but we're talking about a remote starter that came with the car. If I remote start the car, the regular remote entry and the smart key entry no longer work. The doors must be unlocked by the remote starter's remote. Once I'm in the car, hitting the brakes will turn the engine off. The only way to get the car moving without turning the engine off and on is to put on the emergency brake, shift into drive or reverse, put my foot on the brakes, then disengage the emergency brake. wtf??

Toyota's website does not list a remote starter as an OEM option. Sounds like you have an issue with a dealer-installed accessory, not an OEM Toyota part. Also, the usual way to drive a car that has been remote started is to place the key in the ignition and turn the ignition to the "run" position before stepping on the brake or putting the car in gear. Sounds like you should read the manual.

The doors automatically unlock, even when you don't want them to
This is probably a "feature" on many cars, but the doors will automatically unlock when the car is put into park. This one doesn't really affect me since my last car was a manual and it's now second nature to put the car into neutral and use the emergency brake whenever I come to a temporary stop. Unfortunately girls don't drive manuals, so both my mom and my girlfriend were totally freaked out when they found out the car automatically unlocks all 4 doors when the car is put in park. Stop at the Taco Bell drive through? All the doors unlock. Park at Walmart then dig around in your purse for shit? The doors unlocked themselves long before you thought about leaving the car.

I've never driven a car with auto-lock that didn't unlock the doors when it was put into park. The owner's manual will tell you how to disable the auto-lock feature, however, which will stop this issue that your mother and girlfriend are having. It's a simple process.

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In my Tempo, there was a little indicator on the dash to tell you that your seatbelt is not done up, but it wouldn't make any noise. My Civic was slightly more annoying as it would beep every few seconds then eventually give up. This Corolla is relentless. It will beep forever until both the driver and the front passenger are wearing seatbelts. My brother and my best friend don't like wearing seatbelts, so the car will annoy the fuck out of me until they decide to put their seatbelts on.

There is a simple process to disable this chime.

ZV

 

[BurnItDwn]

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In my Tempo, there was a little indicator on the dash to tell you that your seatbelt is not done up, but it wouldn't make any noise. My Civic was slightly more annoying as it would beep every few seconds then eventually give up. This Corolla is relentless. It will beep forever until both the driver and the front passenger are wearing seatbelts. My brother and my best friend don't like wearing seatbelts, so the car will annoy the fuck out of me until they decide to put their seatbelts on.

same thing in my 2008 Subaru. It annoys the hell out of me, as soon as I turn the key to the on position, even if I don't actually start the car, it beeps forever, nice and loud.
Note: I ALWAYS wear my belt when I am driving or riding in any car. I have NEVER once not put on my belt, I don't need an annoying beeping. I HATE annoying beeping noises.

 

[PricklyPete]

My GF has an 05 Corolla and it makes me angry driving it. I cannot name a single thing positive about it other than MPG.

That was the same way I felt about my wife's '04 Civic. It got good gas mileage, was easy/cheap to maintain, and was comfortable enough on long trips...but everything else about the car was pure boring and it would irritate me to drive it.

 

[MJinZ]

I wasn't aware Toyotas could encite emotional reactions in their owners, I thought that was the point


But I suppose if it were possible, anger would be the most likely emotion

Direct you to the new Celica (FT-86), coming to a store near you in 2011.

FT-HS in the next few years, the return of the Supra.

For now, there is the Camry SE V6, which has outhandled and out powered every mid-size front drive competitor for a few years.

Go crawl around in the mud with the FJ Cruiser or Land Cruiser.

Lexus IS and IS-F but those are not Toyotas technically. Lexus LX for people with too much money.

Oh, and the emotional excitement you can't afford from Lexus, unless you are hand-picked to own one... LF-A.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

Direct you to the new Celica (FT-86), coming to a store near you in 2011.

FT-HS in the next few years, the return of the Supra.

For now, there is the Camry SE V6, which has outhandled and out powered every mid-size front drive competitor for a few years.

Go crawl around in the mud with the FJ Cruiser or Land Cruiser.

Lexus IS and IS-F but those are not Toyotas technically. Lexus LX for people with too much money.

Oh, and the emotional excitement you can't afford from Lexus, unless you are hand-picked to own one... LF-A.

lulz, in a straight line maybe

The IS-Fail is a joke, everyone knows this

 

[MJinZ]

lulz, in a straight line maybe

The IS-Fail is a joke, everyone knows this

Lulz is right. You know nothing of front drive mid-size sedans apparently. The Camry SE is fastest in a straight line and the best in grip (lateral acceleration numbers). Oh but you own the most overpriced underwhelming German brand in existence. What am I expecting?

 

[PhoKingGuy]

Lulz is right. You know nothing of mid-size sedans apparently. The Camry SE is fastest in a straight line and the best in grip (lateral acceleration numbers). Oh but you own the most overpriced underwhelming German brand in existence. What am I expecting?

The only thing that the camry can handle better than is maybe a bathtub on wheels, but thats about pushing it

 

[ShawnD1]

Uh... The photos of the 2010 Corolla all show the clock as being located within the tachometer in the same way that the odometer is located within the speedometer.

clock location:

Welcome to automatic transmissions. They downshift based on engine load and when the throttle opens a lot, they downshift. Every automatic does this.

My Ford Tempo never did this

Also, the usual way to drive a car that has been remote started is to place the key in the ignition and turn the ignition to the "run" position before stepping on the brake or putting the car in gear. Sounds like you should read the manual.

Toyotas don't have conventional keys and there's no "on" position.

Key looks like this:

Ths small metal key is to manually open the door if the RF reader fails.

The car is started by pushing a button:

I'll be sure to try that traction control trick. The instructions for this car are absolutely horrible. I had to look on youtube to figure out how to change the oil filter since the manual doesn't even tell me what I'm looking for. A normal car like a Honda Civic uses a standard oil filter that looks like this:

Just look for the white OEM filter and take it off. Easy. The Corolla uses just a filter with no metal casing, which looks like this:

Of course the manual has no diagrams or anything to show where this is. It's inside of a black plastic case that looks just like every other piece of black plastic under the car.

 

[MJinZ]

The only thing that the camry can handle better than is maybe a bathtub on wheels, but thats about pushing it

Aww, boo boo VW owner sad now. Even Camry owns you? LOL. :awe:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0802_midsize_sedan_comparison/index.html

Next generation is going to kill the rest. Your slow little VWs with fart cans will be shamed by the old man Camry.

 

[jlee]

Aww, boo boo VW owner sad now. Even Camry owns you? LOL. :awe:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0802_midsize_sedan_comparison/index.html

Next generation is going to kill the rest. Your slow little VWs with fart cans will be shamed by the old man Camry.

The Altima and Camry outpace the Porsche 928 S4 and the Ferrari Testarossa, respectively, to 60.

Even if you can't stand modern 'family cars'...it's amazing how technology has progressed.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

Aww, boo boo VW owner sad now. Even Camry owns you? LOL. :awe:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0802_midsize_sedan_comparison/index.html

Next generation is going to kill the rest. Your slow little VWs with fart cans will be shamed by the old man Camry.

What are you 12? You sound like the new LOUISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

 

[MJinZ]

What are you 12? You sound like the new LOUISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

This 12 year lulz and drives an IS-Fail. :hmm:

 

[iGas]

The only thing that the camry can handle better than is maybe a bathtub on wheels, but thats about pushing it

Don't knock it.

I have the 07 Camry V6 SE, and it handles quite well, fast and smooth, however it is still a bit soft in corners. IMHO, it is not the best car out there in the market, but it is good enough as a grocery getter and then some.

 

[Bignate603]

Yeah, it's ridiculous how hard people will work towards putting their lives in danger. Oh well, natural selection will take care of them eventually (hopefully before they have the chance to breed).

Edit: And no one rides in my car without a seatbelt, even if it's legal for them to do so (>16yo in the back seat). I always tell them that they might not care enough to wear their seatbelt, but I don't want to live with the guilt of killing them when some idiot plows into us on the highway. They can either wear their seatbelt or not ride with me.

Forget guilt, I don't want the idiot that's not buckled up to come flying over the back set and hit me on his way out the windshield.

If he doesn't want to buckle up in my car he can walk.

 

[ShawnD1]

If people want to kill themselves, you might as well let them. If the seatbelt doesn't finish them, something else will. The guy who won't do up his seatbelt is probably the same kind of guy who throws a can of butane in a camp fire. (that looks really cool from a distance btw)

 

[Zenmervolt]

clock location:

Huh. All of Toyota's photos on the website show the clock being in the tach as here: http://www.edmunds.com/flipper/do/MediaNav/styleId=101140837/firstNav=Gallery/photoId=20209202

Putting the clock in the location you show is definitely bad form.

My Ford Tempo never did this

Then something was broken or, since it was a 3-speed, you were going faster than the maximum speed for 2nd gear.

Toyotas don't have conventional keys and there's no "on" position.

Key looks like this:

Ths small metal key is to manually open the door if the RF reader fails.

The car is started by pushing a button:

That's an optional feature for your car, not standard. While it's an OEM option, it's not the standard setup for a Corolla. The remote start, however, is not OEM, it's a dealer-installed option. You can't fault Toyota for a dealer installing something in a car without first finding out how it would react with other systems.

I'll be sure to try that traction control trick. The instructions for this car are absolutely horrible. I had to look on youtube to figure out how to change the oil filter since the manual doesn't even tell me what I'm looking for. A normal car like a Honda Civic uses a standard oil filter that looks like this:

Just look for the white OEM filter and take it off. Easy. The Corolla uses just a filter with no metal casing, which looks like this:

Of course the manual has no diagrams or anything to show where this is. It's inside of a black plastic case that looks just like every other piece of black plastic under the car.

Yes, there is a big trend back to old-fashioned cartridge-type oil filters. It's supposed to be less waste or something.

ZV

 

[Zenmervolt]

The Altima and Camry outpace the Porsche 928 S4 and the Ferrari Testarossa, respectively, to 60.

Even if you can't stand modern 'family cars'...it's amazing how technology has progressed.

There's something off in that article since the 928 S4 is listed in several other magazines as running between a 5.5 and 5.7 second 0-60 depending on the test conditions for the manual cars.

Unless they were comparing it to the automatic version of the 928 S4, but even then the 928 S4 managed 6.0 to 6.1 second 0-60 times, still faster (but only just) than the Camry's posting of 6.2.

The Ferrari Testarosa clocked at 5.2 to 5.3 seconds 0-60 in most tests. If Motor Trend really was more than a second off those times as they claim, then they must have been exceptionally ham-fisted with the Testarosa's gated shifter.

I'm not saying that we haven't come a long way, we have, but there's something fishy in the claim that the Camry can outdistance a 928 S4, let alone a Testarosa.

928 0-60 times. (Additional link, scroll down to 928 segment.)
Testarosa 0-60 times.

ZV

 

[MJinZ]

There's something off in that article since the 928 S4 is listed in several other magazines as running between a 5.5 and 5.7 second 0-60 depending on the test conditions for the manual cars.

Unless they were comparing it to the automatic version of the 928 S4, but even then the 928 S4 managed 6.0 to 6.1 second 0-60 times, still faster (but only just) than the Camry's posting of 6.2.

The Ferrari Testarosa clocked at 5.2 to 5.3 seconds 0-60 in most tests. If Motor Trend really was more than a second off those times as they claim, then they must have been exceptionally ham-fisted with the Testarosa's gated shifter.

I'm not saying that we haven't come a long way, we have, but there's something fishy in the claim that the Camry can outdistance a 928 S4, let alone a Testarosa.

928 0-60 times. (Additional link, scroll down to 928 segment.)
Testarosa 0-60 times.

ZV

Car and Driver clocked the same 07 SE V6 at 5.8 seconds. These tests seem to have some variation amongst testers and methods.