MX510 or the MX1000? Better for Gaming.

[NFS4]

Why the hell are looks even entering into the equation with you people? Isn't your hand covering the damn thing when you're using it anyway? When I'm using my Microsoft mouse, all I can see is a little bit of black plastic

 

[OblivionLord]

I have the MX510 and love it. I also have the Razor Boomslang 2000dpi and its great but, ball mice ehhh. It sucks when your playing a competative game and dust gets the damn ball to stick so I said screw it.

I'll go back to Razor when they make a mouse thats 2k DPI optical. The Diamondback is nice at 1600 but, Im more used to the 2000dpi Boomslang. The Mx510 is bad at high resolutions like 1280x1024 and above cause it just hasnt the dpi to move without you moving the mouse sooo far on the pad itself which is bad cause you then have to lift it and bring it back to the center.

 

[Slickone]

My favorite mouse was my corded Mouseman+ w/ ball. After that, they made the buttons to easy to press, like the M$ mice have always been, and I always hit buttons by mistake. I liked being able to rest my fingers on the mouse.

I didn't care a whole lot for the thumb button placement on the MX 5xx/7xx since they were so far back. Are they in the same place on the MX1000? And has the MX1000 even made them worse, by the way it's thumb buttons are shaped? Is the MX1000 any bigger than the Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 (which is smaller than the 1.0)?

Elysium, why don't you like the Intellimouse 4.0? Isn't it the same as the 3 except for the side scroll wheel? You really like the buttons on the 510 over your Intellimouse?

 

[BentValve]

Originally posted by: OblivionLord
The Mx510 is bad at high resolutions like 1280x1024 and above cause it just hasnt the dpi to move without you moving the mouse sooo far on the pad itself which is bad cause you then have to lift it and bring it back to the center.

Is that true? My MX1000 moves across my 1600x1200 20" screen in about 1/3" of mouse movement.

 

[everman]

I prefer the mx1000 ergonomics, so it really comes down to personal prefrence. Some people will make claims that it may lag, but I have never experianced any problems at all. Mice are pretty much as good as they get accuracy wise. Now I think the real innovation will be in the area of ergonomics.

 

[thatbox]

I just got sent a brand new MX1000, because my MX700 charger gave out it me. The 700 still works fine, but I was switching between two pairs of AA NiCads and a wall charger and figured Logitech could hook me up. The thing I noticed immediately is that ths MX1000 seems ... made more cheaply. The thumb buttons (3, the "application switch" button was shifter from under the scroll whell to between FORWARD and BACK) seem a bit too big and hollow or wiggly. There's just more plastic all around, which isn't necessarily a good thing. The thumbrest-deal takes some getting used to.

The scroll wheel's easier to turn now, with less defined notches, and it can also do left-to-right now.

The on-mouse battery indicator is nice.

The software, however, is blah. Mouseware won't touch the thing, and so you kinda have to use this new SetPoint. Takes up more memory than em_exec, which I'm not liking at all. Also, the FORWARD and BACK don't work by default in my Firefox 1.0 preview release - I had to assign the buttons ALT-LEFT and ALT-RIGHT keystrokes. The back button is also a bit further towards you on the mouse now, meaning you've got to bend your thumb more to reach it.

The laser makes a big difference where it doesn't really matter. I can use my mouse from on my bed's comforter now, hooray. Most people are already using a suitable-enough surface, though, I'm sure, so that probably won't sway any decisions.

The mouse is much lighter than a battery-loaded 700, which is also taking some adjusting.


Figured that could be helpful, since I think the 700 and 510 are essentially the same thing, just with different wire situations.

 

[BentValve]

Ive decided to either sell or take my MX1000 back and keep my MX510 instead...reason is I have fairly big hands and initially the MX1000 felt like it fit better for my hand but after using it abit I have to scrunch it up too much to be comfortable.
The MX510 is longer so I can strech my hand out more...honestly though there is no mouse on the market that truely fits my hand the way id like.

 

[vood0g]

Originally posted by: savourt
Replied elsewhere but here it goes again:

This is a standard test that the Chinese review sites use to check if the mouse can be used by low sens swipers/gamers:

1. Open Windows Control Panel, Mouse, set your Pointer Speed all the way down to the lowest it'll go.
2. Open a graphics program, set it to "paint" (ie create a line whereever the mouse goes)
3. Swipe the mouse while drawing the line very quickly left and right.

The MX510 will produce a clean left/right series of zig zags. The MX1000 will jump all over the place. None of the pro teams will use the MX1000 so it's strictly amateur hour. If you don't believe me try it out yourself.

PS: You might also want to consider the Razer Diamondback, I own all three and it's really only a choice between the 510 and Diamondback.

i think i may have to agree with you on this. i have this mouse and at times it skips around. and the thing about the mouse working on all surfaces is not exactly true. i have a frosted glass desk and it wont work on it. i think i may have to switch back to my old mouse.

 

[Mem]

I just received my Razer Diamondback mouse today, which`s a lot lighter then my MX1000.

Very responsive , however the side buttons on the right side are very hard to reach & use(I`m right handed) this would also be the same problem(on left side) for left handed gamers, so in the real world it`s really a 5 button mouse IMHO.


Anyway the mouse overall is excellent and teflon feet really give a light floating feel to the mouse,the sensor stays on all the time so no power down mode(good for gamers that worry about power up lag).

I had a quick game of Quake 3 and couldn`t find any problems ,which is no surprise since it is a gaming mouse,I would say if you are after one of the best corded gaming mouse on the market,stick it on your short list.

 

[piroroadkill]

I have an MX700 at home and an MX1000 at work, I still prefer the MX700 and the MX510 is essentially the MX700 with a cord and slightly better sensor, so I would say stick with the MX510.

I don't like the MX1000's shape as much as the MX510/MX700 shape, and the tilt wheel and the clicky scrolling buttons do nothing but annoy me.

 

[BentValve]

I just got my MX510 going and put my MX1000 back in the box for a return.

I gotta say that right off the bat I will miss the speed of the MX1000, at full speed plus acceleration set to high the mouse was crazy fast.

The MX510 at high acceleration and full speed is as fast as the MX1000 is will no acceleration and 3/4 speed.

Some people hate fast pointers but I love them.


Bottom line though is the MX510 feels better on my hand , especially in the thumb area.

The MX510 feels longer but in reality its not, the MX1000 is just taller and makes you scrunch your hand abit while you can stretch it out on the MX510.


If the MX510 had the cordless laser set-up like the MX1000 id be happy.


Oh well, I will live with the MX510 until something better comes along.

 

[Theguynextdoor]

Performnce-wise they sould be the same I'd get the 1000 for the wireless.

 

[IEC]

I've used the MX700 (notice USED, it died on me ) and the MX series are really nice mice. The problem is that a lot of people don't like the heaviness of the cordless mice, so the MX510 is probably fine if you don't mind the cord... right now I'm using an old USB Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0A with periodical waxing of the "feet" to make it nice and precise

 

[dakels]

I dont like it and all the other wireless mice I have tested out. Too much latency for me. I am very senstive to it since I often do illustrations with a mouse (or wacom tablet). I also dont like the weight of it for FPS/twitchy games. The weight combined with the latency = a no go for me. I stick with my wired optical mice and a ratzpad. The combo has been great for me. I have 3 wireless mice sitting in a box doing nothing. The only one I will use once in a while is a bluetooth one with my powerbook.

 

[LtPage1]

510, if you can live without the wireless.

 

[Gagabiji]

If you play games, wireless mice are NOT for you, at least, ATM. The wireless lag on my MX700 is totally unacceptable in games, even in windows you can snap the mouse to the other side of the screen and notice wait time from when you move your hand to when the cursor actually moves on the monitor. Now this won't be a problem if you have "The One" reflexes, but for all us gaming peeps, it's a big problem. So to answer your question, MX510 all the way, well, until they get better wireless technology.

 

[imported_Achilles]

Gaming performance:

Razer Diamondback > mx510 > just about anything > mx1000

Ergonomics/feel:

mx1000 > all.

I have all 3 mice and many more.

 

[raildogg]

mx510

 

[BentValve]

I am really enjoying the MX510 , I took back my MX1000 and dont regret it abit.

IMO these mice are totally different and there is no question that the MX510 is more accurate feeling to me.

Ive been using a wireless mouse so long that really the MX1000 felt about normal , only slightly more accurate and quite abit faster than my previous el-cheapo Logitech MX-Duo mouse.

I have like a billion web page miles on that MX-Duo. I keep at least 20 AA batteries on hand at all times for that mouse..I must have used $50 in batteries over the entire time I used it.


Anyways now to the MX510..when I first fired this up and set it up via the software it had a distictly different feel to it right away...after an hour or so it became apparant that what I was noticing was insane precision!! This sucker is SWEET!


I have it connected via PS/2 and cranked up the PS/2 report rate to max then downloaded Mouse Rate Checker and it averages 170-190Hz!

http://tscherwitschke.de/download.html

I wish I had kept the MX1000 long enough to check it but I will at least test my old MX Duo mouse to see what it does.

Its kind of funny that I have been using a black wireless MXduo set for well over a year and now I am back to a full wire set-up again...a wired Elite Keyboard and a wired MX510.

 

[BentValve]

BTW after looking around abit it seems 125hz is about the max report rate that USB can handle...so the 190hz PS/2 is crazy high and it produces a very very smooth cursor movement...absolutely the smoothest I have ever witnessed!

 

[BentValve]

Ok , I have been using my 510 for a day now and I pretty much love it from top to bottom. The wire is begining to disappear as I use it more ..at first I had the urge to jerk the mouse up and over my head to free it from its chain.

Seriously , this mouse is definately the best I have ever owned and its far more enjoyable to use than the MX1000 was.

 

[NarcoticHobo]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Tremulant

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
will there be a corded version of the MX1000?

I doubt it.


I think the mx1000 is ugly, I don't think I'll try it. Depending on the weather this weekend, I may go pickup a mx510 because my logitech 'optical wheel mouse' is old already... and at work I have a mx700 and I'm used to all the extra buttons. buttons buttons buttons!

You doubt it? All they have to do is transfer the laser tech to the other mice, so yes, in essence, there will be a corded Mx1000.

Not quite, the MX1000 uses pulls more power from its battery than a USB 2.0 port can provide, so if they were going to make a corded version they would have to find a way to modify the laser engine to use less power, which seems pointless as most everyone is fine with wireless these days. So there may be a corded version, but I would say most likely not. I'm more interested in it coming combo'ed with a keyboard.

 

[Slickone]

Originally posted by: thatbox
I just got sent a brand new MX1000...
...The back button is also a bit further towards you on the mouse now, meaning you've got to bend your thumb more to reach it.

Reason enough I wouldn't want it.

 

[mb]

I've had my MX1000 since about the first week they've been released.. at first, I did not like it, now I can't stand to use anything else. It is great for everything, including games. Yes, games. As in, 1600x1200 CS:Source. I love it's shape, too - fits my hand so comfortably.

 

[KBtn]

I have been usiing the MX510 and I love it. I would recommend using a wired mouse to prevent bad batteries from costing you any frags.