Muslims want to stone a woman...

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Xcrown

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Nah, not into children. Or am I? I dont know, Im a religious zealot, I cant think on my own like ALL other religious people.

Xcrown


(ps, for those who are not able to detect, I have used a form of the english language called sarcasm. When used to full effect, it can be quite devastating)
 

Red Dawn

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Nah, not into children. Or am I? I dont know, Im a religious zealot, I cant think on my own like ALL other religious people
If you are a Zealot then no you can't think for yourself
9ps, for those who are not able to detect, I have used a form of the english language called sarcasm. When used to full effect, it can be quite devastating)
Yes but the obvious truth is even more devastating. Somehow I don't think you are a Zealot.
 

Xcrown

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Still amazes me, with the mess that the african continent is in, that these countries are able to remain countries. Ive had friends that have volunteered over there, and they always amaze me with stories of fear and the complete insanity of just trying to live a day in those "countries".


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Xcrown

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Of course Im not a zealot. It does irk me when people (ala d0rk) assume everyone who has a spiritual or religious side IS a zealot. I guess he pushed the right button at the right time.

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d0Rk

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Xcrown, I think you missed my point. Don?t be sour at me because you go to church and I don?t. I never said that those that believe in God are ?crazy zealots intent on destroying all human life? so quit your pointless bitchin. You?re just more susceptible to being brainwashed by someone claiming to be righteous. I happen to have a religious side and am a monotheist; but I have no faith in any religion that is here in this earth. Maybe because Jesus was a popper, Moses was a slave, and the Pope is dressed in gold and comes to my town demanding a min. $100 a mass, ontop of 'donation$'. You figure it out, I don?t have the time to tell you your prophets? and saviour?s messages have been corrupted worse than Windows98 was on my hdd.

What I?m trying to say is that organizations use religion to shield their murderous intents, it sells well. The Taliban does it, the KKK does it, as do anti-abortionists and thousands more throughout history. Now African Muslims are misinterpreting scripture that?s was intended on improving the morals of society, and using it to harass some poor woman whose been raped and couldn?t bring herself to kill the child in her womb. Her only crime was being brought up in a messed country at a messed time. Some of the comments on the 1st page of this thread make me sick. May the Virgin Mary and her son Jesus (also born out of wedlock) piss down the throats of those who think this woman deserves to die.
 

Xcrown

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If thats what you truly belive, than Im totally cool with that. I did go on your initial quote...

[All of the world's major religions advocate love, forgivingness, compassion and tolerance of the entire human race. I have yet to see one of them live up to that expectation. They all murder people in the name of GOD (whom they claim to represent). Religion is just a tool created by men in power to control those who dont have it. A second form of government.]

There you said THEY ALL. So if you were in a moment of rage, then who cares. But I saw a generalization I didnt agree with. You were blaming an entire group on the faults of the extreme. I know of plenty of churches and religions that have done many of good things, as I know of plenty of non religious entities that do good things, and some that do deplorable things. The world is still the world and there are people all over that are assholes and murderes, be they religious, or science geniuses.

I do agree with you on the woman. She got screwed, she did nothing wrong in our views. Its quite lame for people just to say "its religion". I value human life above any religion.

Xcrown

ps, Jesus was concieved out of wedlock, but Mary was quite married when he was born.
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
If that's their law, then that's their law. She broke it. There are consequences. She incurred them. If she didn't agree with them, there are plenty of other places to live in the world with much better laws.

nik


what about the man who couldn't keep his d1ck in his pants? Does her family get to hang his frijoles on their mantle?
 

Xcrown

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In a land where the laws treated all humans as equals, yeah, hang him too. But in muslim law, Men are on such a high pedestal, they can get away with nearly everything...against women.

You know, its no wonder all those countries are so backward and have for the past 500 years gone nowhere.

Xcrown
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: Xcrown
In a land where the laws treated all humans as equals, yeah, hang him too. But in muslim law, Men are on such a high pedestal, they can get away with nearly everything...against women.
I dare you to show me where in the Quran, which is the single codification of Islamic Law, where it says that.
 

Xcrown

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When I say muslim law, I mean muslim government law. Not the religious "law" of their books. The governments of these "muslim" nations have taken the religion and made it a law of their own, of course, modyfying as they see fit. Hence they create laws that are completely pro man and very anti woman. That can be seen in any of the "muslim" nations. Just like the Bible has been perverted by governments through out the ages, the Quran has been as well. Thats what you get when you have a world run by humans.

Xcrown

ps, I have nothing against the true Islamic religion. I dont agree with it, but have nothing against true Islam.
 

d0Rk

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Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: Xcrown
In a land where the laws treated all humans as equals, yeah, hang him too. But in muslim law, Men are on such a high pedestal, they can get away with nearly everything...against women.
I dare you to show me where in the Quran, which is the single codification of Islamic Law, where it says that.

Sorry to be so blunt about this point, but you dont need to wash you hands and open the good book to verify that Islamic-ruled nations treat their women as second class citizens. Its written all over those robes they have to wear so they dont expose any flesh in public. The fact that they cant walk around unescorted or speak to a man that she's not related to or married to, or even work a decent paying job. Look at women in western society. They contribute greatly to society just by being part of the work force (this in itself was only brought about post WWI). How about how much they value their right to fashion and beauty, you want to rob that of muslim women and then say they're not mistreated. I cant walk 2 blocks in the city without getting an errection that would dent a parked car with all these hoochy skanky girls in their skirts and tank-tops. And guess how many of them I've raped... Zero!! I dont need to, I can smooth talk to them and they're happy to chat knowing that I noticed the effort they put into looking so damn good! Its that simple. If the Quaran is the "single codification of ISLAMIC LAW, then the problem lies in the fact that this society is modelled after laws that were intended to improve lives 1500 yrs ago. The totally unreasonable sentences that women are given in these nations is pathetic example of how low ppl go to corrupt something that was intended for good use. Sorry to get so Off-Topic, but this religion and the way they treat their mothers, sisters and daughters pisses me off... The law of the land has to change because the way ppl use it is fuct up!!
Respect to the pageant models for standing up to the ugly face of injustice.
PS. I do got beef with the Islamic religion, in case you can?t tell.
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: d0Rk
Sorry to be so blunt about this point, but you dont need to wash you hands and open the good book to verify that Islamic-ruled nations treat their women as second class citizens.
You won't ever hear me contest that. :) My meaning was just that I would dare to say Islam is just as neutral as most any other religion out there as written. The people who pretend to carry it out in nations like - well, take your pick - have an ingrained backwardness in their culture and distort Islam to fit. It's pretty crazy to realize people actually live like that, and even crazier to watch in person. :confused: :confused: :confused:
 

OutHouse

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ffmcobalt and gopunk

have you two EVER been to a Muslim country? ???

first off, women are slaves PERIOD. They cant even be on the street with out an family male escort. So yea,,, she could have left at anytime
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Second. Laws over there DO NOT CHANGE PERIOD. Allah wrote it, they aint changing it. when was the last time you lead a movement to get a law changed in your town that you didnt agree with? Atleast here in the states you dont have to worry about being called a "unbeliver slut" and get publicly hanged or shot in the back of the melon in the town soccer field.
 

sandorski

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Yup yup, of course you guys are right.
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You could use some learnin' in history. Salem witch trials, the Inquisition, women as property, yadda yadda ya with not a Muslim in sight. A thousand years from now some Muslim will be making the same arguement you guys are against Elvisians(or some other developing religious group).
 

Pooteh

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Yup yup, of course you guys are right.
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You could use some learnin' in history. Salem witch trials, the Inquisition, women as property, yadda yadda ya with not a Muslim in sight. A thousand years from now some Muslim will be making the same arguement you guys are against Elvisians(or some other developing religious group).



a good excuse when people were basically isolated with little communication. now in modern day it is unexcusable. catch up with the world u backwards twits:p


they defy even though they know better:p
 

res1bhmg

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nik is dead on; these are laws that will not change. If this happens in Iran, Iraq, or a host of other nations under strict Islamic law, the woman will get punished in some way. That's the sad truth, but you have to understand that a thousand years under certain rules will make even the most abominable laws seem normal to those people. Women in the US know they can have a baby anytime they want; women under Islamic law know that they simply cannot, and their livlihoods depend on it.

By the way, I'm Muslim, but I don't want to stone a woman. The most ignorant thing said in this thread was stated before I even read the first post. What other genius thread titles can we expect in the future: Christians want to kill abortion doctors; Jews control the wealth and media of the US; Catholics love molestation...
 

StinkyPinky

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Religion is just a crutch for the weak minded anyway. Islam, like every other religion, is just a collection of organized superstitions designed to prey of the insecurity of billions of people. It's amazing that in this era of advanced science people still believe in deities.

There. I said what many of you people are probably thinking.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Pooteh
Originally posted by: sandorski
Yup yup, of course you guys are right.
rolleye.gif


You could use some learnin' in history. Salem witch trials, the Inquisition, women as property, yadda yadda ya with not a Muslim in sight. A thousand years from now some Muslim will be making the same arguement you guys are against Elvisians(or some other developing religious group).



a good excuse when people were basically isolated with little communication. now in modern day it is unexcusable. catch up with the world u backwards twits:p


they defy even though they know better:p

 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Pooteh
Originally posted by: sandorski
Yup yup, of course you guys are right.
rolleye.gif


You could use some learnin' in history. Salem witch trials, the Inquisition, women as property, yadda yadda ya with not a Muslim in sight. A thousand years from now some Muslim will be making the same arguement you guys are against Elvisians(or some other developing religious group).



a good excuse when people were basically isolated with little communication. now in modern day it is unexcusable. catch up with the world u backwards twits:p


they defy even though they know better:p

Besides us in the First World, most still are isolated and have little communication. Not that that is enough to make them or others automatically do what we know is the right thing. It took the Christian world a long time to realize that what they considered to be the right thing was actually wrong and not part of the religious texts they thought they followed inerrently.