**Muslims Condemn Terrorist/Violence Attacks - WorldWide**

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Show me the one with the Iranian video.

go on I will translate for myself

Like I said -- go to the top of the site, and search by keywords title....
I assume you're competent enough to do that.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Aimster
Show me the one with the Iranian video.

go on I will translate for myself

Like I said -- go to the top of the site, and search by keywords title....
I assume you're competent enough to do that.

I saw the video. It was edited. It didnt even have one word of Farsi. It was blocked out and replaced with Hebrew or whatever.

Nice evidence. It has me convinced.

"rolls eyes".

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Aimster
that site is complete garbage

i search for 851

and I got the video but they edited out the audio and I cannot hear the actual clip.

Nice evidence. The website is pure crap and doesnt provide reliable information since one cannot see the actual clip without it being edited!!!!

Either your volume is mutted, or you need to clean your ears.

I'm watching it right now, and there's plenty of sound.

This only shows you're a propagandist.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Aimster
I saw the video. It was edited. It didnt even have one word of Farsi. It was blocked out and replaced with Hebrew or whatever.

Maybe it wasn't made by the Iranian station that broadcast it, but they still broadcast it, thus granting it legitimacy.

Would you like to complain that it wasn't in wide-screen format and accompanied by surround sound as well?

 

[Aisengard]

It's one thing to say to the world "we don't like it", but QUITE another to give a wink to your followers and say the exact opposite.

 

[Aimster]

If it was presented by an Iranian T.V stationed then it would be presented in Farsi.

The video's audio was not Farsi.

So why the hell should I believe anything that site has to say if they do not provide the actual videoclip so I can make up my own mind?

Exactly.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Aimster
I saw the video. It was edited. It didnt even have one word of Farsi. It was blocked out and replaced with Hebrew or whatever.

Maybe it wasn't made by the Iranian station that broadcast it, but they still broadcast it, thus granting it legitimacy.

Would you like to complain that it wasn't in wide-screen format and accompanied by surround sound as well?

So then they need to present the actual clip (the audio which is in Farsi!) so people like me can see the REAL clip rather than take the word of a translator working for a site designed to show the Muslim world as "bad".

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Aimster
So then they need to present the actual clip (the audio which is in Farsi!) so people like me can see the REAL clip rather than take the word of a translator working for a site designed to show the Muslim world as "bad".

I know you're full of baloney by demanding Farsi, but if you insist: check #758 and #279.
From what I could tell, the latter is Farsi.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Talk is cheap

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Aimster
If it was presented by an Iranian T.V stationed then it would be presented in Farsi.

Just out of curiosity -- are you saying that people in Iran don't speak arabic at all? Isn't the Koran in arabic?

Also, are you asserting that they cannot broadcast films made by others in the Middle East? With subtitles perhaps?

 

[5150Joker]

Why is it that Jews or Jew lovers are always the ones spreading anti-Muslim rhetoric on these boards? Seriously I see a disproportionate amount of hate coming from Jews here who always try to play the victim card. If Israel is anything like the vicious Jewish vitriole on these boards, its no wonder the Arabs feel subjugated by them.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Aimster
If it was presented by an Iranian T.V stationed then it would be presented in Farsi.

Just out of curiosity -- are you saying that people in Iran don't speak arabic at all? Isn't the Koran in arabic?

Also, are you asserting that they cannot broadcast films made by others in the Middle East? With subtitles perhaps?

Iranians do not like Arabs and Iranians do not care to know Arabic. Why? Same reason most people in Israel do not like Arabs.

The majority of Iranians speak Farsi and if they speak another language it is going to be English.

The ones that wish to learn Arabic are the ones that like to stay at home all day and read the Quran.

Iranians are Persian. Just because the govt of Iran is Muslim doesnt mean the people of Iran are practicing Muslims.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Why is it that Jews or Jew lovers are always the ones spreading anti-Muslim rhetoric on these boards? Seriously I see a disproportionate amount of hate coming from Jews here who always try to play the victim card. If Israel is anything like the vicious Jewish vitriole on these boards, its no wonder the Arabs feel subjugated by them.

Lets not assume and lets not try to make easy generalized remarks. Jew lovers? LOL. You have to understand that there is a reason for everything. Look at the cause of this.

Note: I'm not talking about anyone specifically on these boards.

For example, your typical American seens the 9/11 attacks. He sees the pictures of the hijackers. He notices a pattern - they are all Arab muslims. He gets suspicious, he then gets angry. Your typical American reaction.

But keep in mind that there are other Americans who got curious and looked into why someone would do this. That there has to be a root cause for this.

So I'm saying to you that lets not generalize.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Why is it that Jews or Jew lovers are always the ones spreading anti-Muslim rhetoric on these boards? Seriously I see a disproportionate amount of hate coming from Jews here who always try to play the victim card. If Israel is anything like the vicious Jewish vitriole on these boards, its no wonder the Arabs feel subjugated by them.

You mean like this and this.

We must have different definition for hate.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Iranians do not like Arabs and Iranians do not care to know Arabic. Why? Same reason most people in Israel do not like Arabs.

Why is that? Arabs suicide bomb in Teheran as well?
You really have to be more explicit than that.

Anyway, foreign shows can still be broadcasted with subtitles...

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Aimster
So then they need to present the actual clip (the audio which is in Farsi!) so people like me can see the REAL clip rather than take the word of a translator working for a site designed to show the Muslim world as "bad".

I know you're full of baloney by demanding Farsi, but if you insist: check #758 and #279.
From what I could tell, the latter is Farsi.

The interpretation is off ....

Correct translation: "the attacks were a direct result of the U.K's policy towards the U.S and Israel" Al Qaeda is the children of the U.S. The U.S helped them get strong and as a result 9/11 happened. The U.S is to blame"

The site likes to say this:
758 - Terror in London (9) - Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati in Tehran Friday Sermon: The English Government May Have Caused the London Bombings Like the US Government May Have Caused 9/11

I see a difference.....

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Aimster
Iranians do not like Arabs and Iranians do not care to know Arabic. Why? Same reason most people in Israel do not like Arabs.

Why is that? Arabs suicide bomb in Teheran as well?
You really have to be more explicit than that.

Anyway, foreign shows can still be broadcasted with subtitles...

Iran-Iraq War.
Arabs united together to bomb Iran. Almost all Arabs supported Saddan.
Even the Palestinians who the mullahs in Iran like to love.. they wanted Iranians dead...yet the mullahs in Iran are idiots and support them.

& Yes Arabs suicide bomb in Iran. Southern Iran there are rebel Arabs who go around blowing things up killing people.. go figure...they want part of Iran to be an independent Arab land ....

Calling an Iranian an Arab is very offensive .... to most.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Aimster
I see a difference.....

You just repeated the same thing.

Even though he does not say it explicitly, he sows the seeds of doubt, and he has plenty underlings to take care of it, and to say it explicitly.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Aimster
I see a difference.....

You just repeated the same thing.

Even though he does not say it explicitly, he sows the seeds of doubt, and he has plenty underlings to take care of it, and to say it explicitly.

I disagree that he said the same thing..

but I will not sit here and defend anyone in Iran who I wish to die slowly from a painful death..

so for that sake .. I will agree with you.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Aimster
so for that sake .. I will agree with you.

Don't do me any favors -- your translation basically says the same thing, with the exception that it is more colorful (children, strong, etc).

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Rainsford
That bolded point seems to be a VERY difficult one for a lot of people. I don't quite understand it, it seems pretty straightforward to me.

Not really.... when you have such prominent people promoting conspiracy theories, you don't break your head over what precentage thinks this or that -- it's all about who controls the power.

The leaders of Hezbollah and Iran went out and spoke against the attack.
Same with leaders of Syria/Egypt.

Next.

Pfft - the leaders of Iran and Syria can take their "speaking out" and shove it...I don't need a "boy this is sad....BUT" condolences. Douchebags the both of them.

"Syria's most senior Islamic leader described the attacks on America as a terrorist act, as ignoble as what he called the state terrorism practised by Israel."

"Iran's Ayatollah Imami Kashani spoke of a catastrophic act of terrorism which could only be condemned by all Muslims, adding the whole world should mobilise against terrorism.

But if its roots were really to be tackled, terrorism and its practitioners would have to be defined, he said, pointing to Israel and calling it a "terrorist state which was killing children".

America's support and its arrogant policies around the world might help to explain the brutalism of the hijackers, he added. "

Ever been to a funeral and told the kids "Boy, I'm sorry your dad died. But he was a fat fvcker and was gonna kick the bucket soon anyways, the pig"?

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Rainsford
That bolded point seems to be a VERY difficult one for a lot of people. I don't quite understand it, it seems pretty straightforward to me.

Not really.... when you have such prominent people promoting conspiracy theories, you don't break your head over what precentage thinks this or that -- it's all about who controls the power.

The leaders of Hezbollah and Iran went out and spoke against the attack.
Same with leaders of Syria/Egypt.

Next.

Pfft - the leaders of Iran and Syria can take their "speaking out" and shove it...I don't need a "boy this is sad....BUT" condolences. Douchebags the both of them.

"Syria's most senior Islamic leader described the attacks on America as a terrorist act, as ignoble as what he called the state terrorism practised by Israel."

"Iran's Ayatollah Imami Kashani spoke of a catastrophic act of terrorism which could only be condemned by all Muslims, adding the whole world should mobilise against terrorism.

But if its roots were really to be tackled, terrorism and its practitioners would have to be defined, he said, pointing to Israel and calling it a "terrorist state which was killing children".

America's support and its arrogant policies around the world might help to explain the brutalism of the hijackers, he added. "

Ever been to a funeral and told the kids "Boy, I'm sorry your dad died. But he was a fat fvcker and was gonna kick the bucket soon anyways, the pig"?

Nice post ... now that that said..

I am done defending Muslims for an entire year.

Im off to have a beer.

Have a nice night to all.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Rainsford
That bolded point seems to be a VERY difficult one for a lot of people. I don't quite understand it, it seems pretty straightforward to me.

Not really.... when you have such prominent people promoting conspiracy theories, you don't break your head over what precentage thinks this or that -- it's all about who controls the power.

That's silly, using your system people would conclude that the views of liberals in this country don't matter at all since our government leaders are mostly conservatives...despite the fact that a very large number (perhaps the majority...) oppose our current set of conservative leaders and plan to do something about it at the next possible opportunity.

Suggesting that a particular faction in a group is totally useless unless they hold power at the moment makes no sense, opposition groups don't spring up out of nowhere, they all start by being small minority movements. And I don't know about you, but I think it makes a HUGE difference how many of the common people in the Middle East really support the more radical leaders.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
That's silly, using your system people would conclude that the views of liberals in this country don't matter at all since our government leaders are mostly conservatives...despite the fact that a very large number (perhaps the majority...) oppose our current set of conservative leaders and plan to do something about it at the next possible opportunity.

Are you saying that dissenting views in Iran or Syria (for exampe) get as much coverage and freedom as they do in the USA?
Don't try to apply "my system" in such a manner, since you'll break it.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Rainsford
That's silly, using your system people would conclude that the views of liberals in this country don't matter at all since our government leaders are mostly conservatives...despite the fact that a very large number (perhaps the majority...) oppose our current set of conservative leaders and plan to do something about it at the next possible opportunity.

Are you saying that dissenting views in Iran or Syria (for exampe) get as much coverage and freedom as they do in the USA?
Don't try to apply "my system" in such a manner, since you'll break it.

Nope, don't think I said that. You, however, made the argument that we should just disregard the opposing viewpoints in the Muslim world, while I'm making the argument that they are certainly significant and something we should be paying a lot of attention to.