**Muslims Condemn Terrorist/Violence Attacks - WorldWide**

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: Aimster


Nice post ... now that that said..

I am done defending Muslims for an entire year.

Im off to have a beer.

Have a nice night to all.

Originally posted by: Aimster
I hate Islam.

Who are you and what have you done with the real Aimster?

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Nope, don't think I said that. You, however, made the argument that we should just disregard the opposing viewpoints in the Muslim world, while I'm making the argument that they are certainly significant and something we should be paying a lot of attention to.

If opposing viewpoints in the Muslim world were significant at all, then I dare say there would not have been any bombings in Madrid and London, nor would we have the recent arrests in the UK, Germany, and Denmark.

On the other hand, we've heard plenty of rationalization as to why these things happen, and how we should alter our foreign policy to be more likeable.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Aimster
None of your links have anything to do with this thread.

Stop turning every Muslim thread into Israel/Jewish BS.

You said they condemned terrorism.... I'm showing you what's going on back home.
It's not my fault you don't like it.

You links have all been proven to be false!!!
So whats the point?
Aimster is correct!!!!
So why crap in Aimsters thread??

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Rainsford
That bolded point seems to be a VERY difficult one for a lot of people. I don't quite understand it, it seems pretty straightforward to me.

Not really.... when you have such prominent people promoting conspiracy theories, you don't break your head over what precentage thinks this or that -- it's all about who controls the power.

Dude chill....
Promenent people who are whacko`s....give it up..your logic has always been flawed....

 

[ProfJohn]

So one hand we have a bunch of people condemning the 9-11 attacks.
On the other we have the president of Iraq calling to the elimination of Israel.

Do treat them equally? Or is this a case of "do as I say, not as I do?"

I do think we are finally starting to see the average Muslim rise up and complain about the terrorists. I think they are finally get the point that these radicals make ALL Muslims look bad. Just as the child molesting priests make all Catholics look bad, even though 99+% would never do such a thing.

Lastly, try telling a rape victim that they brought it on themselves because they wore a 'short' skirt and see what happens.
Yet some people seem to think it is ok to blame the victims of 9-11 by saying their country brought on this horrible crime? Help explain this to me.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
So one hand we have a bunch of people condemning the 9-11 attacks.
On the other we have the president of Iraq calling to the elimination of Israel.

Do treat them equally? Or is this a case of "do as I say, not as I do?"

I do think we are finally starting to see the average Muslim rise up and complain about the terrorists. I think they are finally get the point that these radicals make ALL Muslims look bad. Just as the child molesting priests make all Catholics look bad, even though 99+% would never do such a thing.

Lastly, try telling a rape victim that they brought it on themselves because they wore a 'short' skirt and see what happens.
Yet some people seem to think it is ok to blame the victims of 9-11 by saying their country brought on this horrible crime? Help explain this to me.

Please. They don't hate you because of your Freedom(short skirt), it is the meddling.

 

[Aimster]

elimation of Israel does not equal : killing all Jews and throwing them out to sea.

It basically means they do not agree with a Jewish state in control of Jurusalem which is a Muslim holy site. This crap is not something new.
Christians - Jews - Muslims have all fought for that damn city ...

Solution? Make a time machine. Have the UN control what is Israel today. Make it into a nation run by the world so no Jew/Christian/Muslim can hold claim to that land.
Results? World Peace. YEEE HAWWWW

o.. but we dont have a time machine .. so I guess Israel owns joo.

 

[tvarad]

Aimster:

"Please. They don't hate you because of your Freedom(short skirt), it is the meddling."

It's not meddling. It's called adult supervision.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Aimster
elimation of Israel does not equal : killing all Jews and throwing them out to sea.

Let me give you a little advice: when somebody threatens to wipe you off the map and drive you into the sea, then you better off take their threats seriosly, especially given the history of the region.

It basically means they do not agree with a Jewish state in control of Jurusalem which is a Muslim holy site.

Beautifully spun, only that you're forgetting that Jerusalem is holy also to Christians and Jews, and one would argue that it was holy to those religion prior to being religious to Islam (if you really want to be petty about it).
EDIT: They can not like it as much as they want; while Israel allows free access to religious site, they have nothing to bitch about.

Solution? Make a time machine. Have the UN control what is Israel today. Make it into a nation run by the world so no Jew/Christian/Muslim can hold claim to that land.

I see history ain't your thing -- the UN Partition Plan from 1947 granted a little bit of (usable) land to the Jews, the rest to the Palestinians, and Jerusalem would've been under UN control. The Jews accepted, the arabs started a war, and here we are today, where every arab and Palestinians thinks they are a victim of Israel.

Results? World Peace. YEEE HAWWWW

Google "Chamberlain" and "peace in our time"

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Aimster
elimation of Israel does not equal : killing all Jews and throwing them out to sea.

Let me give you a little advice: when somebody threatens to wipe you off the map and drive you into the sea, then you better off take their threats seriosly, especially given the history of the region.

It basically means they do not agree with a Jewish state in control of Jurusalem which is a Muslim holy site.

Beautifully spun, only that you're forgetting that Jerusalem is holy also to Christians and Jews, and one would argue that it was holy to those religion prior to being religious to Islam (if you really want to be petty about it).
EDIT: They can not like it as much as they want; while Israel allows free access to religious site, they have nothing to bitch about.

Solution? Make a time machine. Have the UN control what is Israel today. Make it into a nation run by the world so no Jew/Christian/Muslim can hold claim to that land.

I see history ain't your thing -- the UN Partition Plan from 1947 granted a little bit of (usable) land to the Jews, the rest to the Palestinians, and Jerusalem would've been under UN control. The Jews accepted, the arabs started a war, and here we are today, where every arab and Palestinians thinks they are a victim of Israel.

Results? World Peace. YEEE HAWWWW

Google "Chamberlain" and "peace in our time"

I think you just like to ramble on with me without knowing what it is you are rambling about...

Nothing in the post you quoted me on was against Israel.
In fact I am "Jewish" and have family living inside Israel.

Yet, for some unknown reason you decided to quote me like you do with everything I post and twist things around.

 

[jpeyton]

Awesome post Aimster; I really appreciate the effort. I'll keep this thread bookmarked, so every time I come across a post that says "where's the outrage from the Muslims", I'll know where to point them.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Nothing in the post you quoted me on was against Israel.
In fact I am "Jewish" and have family living inside Israel.

I really wonder if you are Jewish, or you're just BSing...

Anyway, there's enough idiotic PC Jews out there spouting a lot of crap about how if Israel wasn't there, then there wouldn't be any problem.

Anyhow, I have to quote you to respond to you, and usually the level of your comment will dictate what I will write in my response.

So far you've proven to be a fool, since only a fool would think that Iran or the rest of the wackos would not really annihilate all of Israel if they could. But that's ok, you can keep on trying to spin the meaning of what "wipe off the map", and "push into to the sea" really mean, since, after all, those are just metaphors, just like the war in 1948 was....

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Aimster
Nothing in the post you quoted me on was against Israel.
In fact I am "Jewish" and have family living inside Israel.

I really wonder if you are Jewish, or you're just BSing...

Anyway, there's enough idiotic PC Jews out there spouting a lot of crap about how if Israel wasn't there, then there wouldn't be any problem.

Anyhow, I have to quote you to respond to you, and usually the level of your comment will dictate what I will write in my response.

So far you've proven to be a fool, since only a fool would think that Iran or the rest of the wackos would not really annihilate all of Israel if they could. But that's ok, you can keep on trying to spin the meaning of what "wipe off the map", and "push into to the sea" really mean, since, after all, those are just metaphors, just like the war in 1948 was....

You havent proven me to be anything.

You are so filled with hate that my goal for the entire day yesterday was to feed off your hate for entertainment purposes. Nobody else cares about this thread or the other thread except you. Why? You are filled with hate that you must make it clear to everyone who is reading (which is probably like 3 people) that your hate is justified.

Jews in Iran are protected so if they were out to kill Jews I believe they could easily start at home with no problems at all. But obviously, you will put out another reason why that isn't happening.

I heard the President of Iran's speech. He said "Jews and Muslims must unite to get rid of Israel. The Zionist must be stopped with the help of Jews and Christians and Muslims. We will drive Israel to the sea. So I stand here today asking the people of Israel to not let the zionist control you" - Does that sound like he wants Jews dead or he is against a regime?

Common Sense.
U S E - I T

& Yes according to Judaism I am Jewish because my mom was born Jewish. The hell with Israel and the hell with Iran. The U.S is my home and I am not going to defend any of them with a passion because I don't give a damn what really goes on in the M.E. If they decide to nuke each other .. sad.. but I won't cry about it (this is the truth).

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Aimster
You havent proven me to be anything.

Yawn....

Jews in Iran are protected so if they were out to kill Jews I believe they could easily start at home with no problems at all. But obviously, you will put out another reason why that isn't happening.

Iran's Jews face growing climate of fear

"The Iranian regime says it does distinguish between Judaism and Zionism, but the local Jewish community knows that is a lie since it has been frequently written by extremists in religious circles that 'every Jew is a Zionist'."
...
He is all too familiar with the precarious position of Iranian Jews who are called on by the government to declare their public support for the country's nuclear policy.

"Not to mention, every time Iran publicly condemns Israeli actions in the Palestinian territories, the Jewish community is expected to issue a statement of support," he said.

Even though the regime officially recognises Judaism as an official religious minority and the Jewish community is even allocated a seat in the Iranian parliament, the reality on the ground is different.

Jewish leaders are reluctant to draw attention to incidences of mistreatment of their community, due to fear of government reprisal, along with fear of being arrested or accused of being spies. In 1999, 13 Jews were arrested in the city of Shiraz and charged with spying for Israel. While eventually all were pardoned, it exposed the fragile position of the country's Jewish community.

"While there are Jewish schools, the principals and most of the teachers are Muslim, the Bible is taught in Farsi, not in Hebrew, and the schools are forced to open on Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath," Amir said, as he played Hebrew music for his listeners.

"So while the regime declares that there is freedom of religion, it is all just for the sake of appearances."

Yep... Heaven on Earth for the Iranian Jews.

 

[Aimster]

uhm....

nice article from a site I have never heard of and is writtin by a women living in Israel and not Iran. She traveled to Iran from Israel to cover this story? That is impressive. I would like to know how in the world she managed that since there is no way that would ever be allowed by Iran or Israel.

All Iranians are in support of Iranian enriching uranium. It is something the entire country is united about.

Why in the hell would Iranians not be for their own country enriching uranium?
That makes no sense at all.

Like I said..

C o m m o n
S e n s e

 

[Alaa]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Very timely articles (even though many of them are over 5 years old), but I'm not sure the people who really need convincing are going to listen. They've crafted in their minds this idea that every Muslim who dislikes the US (not just the terrorists) was born with some mental defect that makes him or her irrationally hate this country, they very clearly reject the idea that our policies can have any effect on whether or not the non-terrorist Muslims like the US.

LoL

 

[magomago]

dna, you have turned this thread from something that it should have originally been on (and amazingly enough an ineteresting post from Aimster) to something entirely different.

I'm going to requote this simply because it is one of the best quotes here:

It is? Here's a shocker, the Muslim World isn't a homogeneous entity having only 1 opinion on every or any subject. Go into any society and you'll find very diverse opinion, yet somehow you and those calling for Muslims to speak out on these subjects expect a single unified voice on the matter.

The OP shows widespread condemnation of such acts. The whole issue is pretty much settled and the demand for Muslim action, in this regard, was met a longtime ago.

Just like you have people on both sides in ANY situation, such is the same thing with the Middle East. Nothing more, nothing less. All you provide is simply indication that various views do exist.

On the other hand, we've heard plenty of rationalization as to why these things happen, and how we should alter our foreign policy to be more likeable.

Entirely irrelevant in this thread and you need not confuse a difference as to why we should alter our foreign policy versus rationalization of these actions. Either way I'm not going to conintue simply not to take this off topic



Great thread Aimster. There are plenty of links I've come across also maybe I'll compile them and you can add them ~ the point is that Muslims ARE speaking out, yet some close their hears and don't want to hear it so they can continue to repeat what they believe

 

[jpeyton]

Don't feed the troll anymore.

 

[Alaa]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Talk is cheap

so, now it's cheap?

 

[Alaa]

Someone has to stop this dna!! he keeps trolling with his non-sense everywhere he sees the word "Muslims"!! he joined last month with more than 400 posts now!! can you believe it?

 

[Alaa]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Don't feed the troll anymore.

I am with this opinion!

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Aimster
nice article from a site I have never heard of and is writtin by a women living in Israel and not Iran. She traveled to Iran from Israel to cover this story? That is impressive. I would like to know how in the world she managed that since there is no way that would ever be allowed by Iran or Israel.

You know, she could've met with Jews from Iran...... I know it's a radical thing, but people do that....
Nevertheless, I did expect you to use your "unreputable source" BS argument.

How about you prove to us that Jews in Iran are having the time of their life?
You seem to be making quite a lot of assertions for someone who doesn't live in Iran.

Why in the hell would Iranians not be for their own country enriching uranium?
That makes no sense at all.

That's kindergarten common sense.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: magomago
dna, you have turned this thread from something that it should have originally been on (and amazingly enough an ineteresting post from Aimster) to something entirely different.

I'm pointing out hypocrisy, and that's what's bothering you.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Alaa
Someone has to stop this dna!! he keeps trolling with his non-sense everywhere he sees the word "Muslims"!! he joined last month with more than 400 posts now!! can you believe it?

You'll have a very hard time to prove I'm a troll; plenty messages have been posted in the past few days by myself and Aimster, so by your logic, he's a troll too.

Anyway, you're just pissed because I don't think Islam is the greatest religion in the world, like you want me too.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Alaa
Someone has to stop this dna!! he keeps trolling with his non-sense everywhere he sees the word "Muslims"!! he joined last month with more than 400 posts now!! can you believe it?

You'll have a very hard time to prove I'm a troll; plenty messages have been posted in the past few days by myself and Aimster, so by your logic, he's a troll too.

ok, to be fair, Aimster IS a troll... so that didnt help your argument!

lol, sorry man, it just had to be said!