Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: conjur
Yeah...that's what I'm talking about...wagging fingers. Get a fvcking clue.
Ha! Your weak-kneed strategy has failed, and sputtering thinly veiled contempt for American assertiveness is a third rate side show. Boo Hoo
Appeasement, false diplomacy, quid-pro-quo and evasion brought us 9/11. This is not an episode of Law and Order... this is war, and it's time we act like it.
WTFU. Your immature silliness doesn't work and can only lead to an emboldening and growth of the problem. The only solution is to take them out. Destroy them. When they put one of ours in the hospital, we put 100 of them in the morgue. That's reality and that's how wars are won. You people have already tied our hands enough, making the job at hand that much more difficult, now you want total defeat for the US. That is the only way moral way to deal with those at war, and it's the most effective way to promote social change in the region.
You're the one that wants us to leave Iraq today, to let them founder so you have more reason to express your hate for Bush and Republicans. You live in a pink skied fantasyland where if the US immasculates and weakens itself before the world then they will just drop their evil and all will be well. Go back to pre-school.
No offense, but I don't think a single terrorist has ever been captured or killed by attitude. Rant and rave all you like, but at the end of the day, someone is actually going to have to, you know, DO something about the problem. And your overly simplistic Die Hard-esque "kill 'em all" strategy is not the way to do it.
"This is war and it's time we start acting like it". Good work, I doubt you have the faintest idea of how to fight such a war. Maybe you're Billy Badass, and if you see Osama bin Laden at the Safeway, bust a cap in his ass for me. But since that's not too likely, we need an intelligent approach here that covers all our bases.
The first step is finding the terrorists. Tanks and soldiers might make us feel better, but they are pretty bad at actually fighting terrorism. The 9/11 hijackers could have been stopped by a dozen regular cops if we had known where to look. The first and best way to stop terrorists is good old fashioned intelligence and police work. Contrary to alarmists, the terrorists threat is in their ability to hit soft targets, not in their raw firepower. They aren't all that dangerous in traditional terms, they couldn't take on the police force in Podunk, Ohio and win. The threat is that they go after targets that can't defend themselves. So how do we protect those targets? By hitting the terrorists first. Not with thousands of soldiers and tanks and planes and bombs, but with a handful of FBI agents when they step off of a plane at LAX. Or with a small SEAL team as Osama and friends sit around building bombs in their house.
I am certainly not advocating "giving up", I'm saying we need to exercise some intelligence here. Terrorism is not a problem that can be solved by getting all pissed off and lashing out. Terrorism is a very sneaky and smart threat, and we need to be equally smart to fight it. I still remember how I felt after 9/11, I wanted to grab a gun and shoot Osama in the face. Which is fine, except I was on about step 37 of the process. The real problem is when our anger and emotion clouds our ability to recognize that the situation is far more complex and difficult than our emotions tell us it is.
