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Muslim father and killing your own children?

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I agree with that, any book centers around the goldren rule but is distorted by mullas, selfishness, poverty, totalitarism and ignorance. There is no hope for those places unless done by themself though democratic reforms ..after all they love dying so any threat we may think sounds resonable they laugh at and it emboldens them even more. LOL what a waste.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Zebo
I got brats..I might become a muslim LOL. Oh that so bad😛

Hell no it's not ok. I read a book once about saudi arabia life how even the brothers could kill the sister. WTF!! True story, they did when they found out thier friend had raped thier own sister!!

I have three kids myself, single father with his kids living with them, i react strongly against these types of things because i have a teenage daughter.

I want her to have as much fun as she can without having to watch out for wacko lunatics who might think it is wrong.

The book was called "Behind the Vail" totally shocking to western eyes IMHO.

You know that the labor they bring in from philippines and white slavery gets raped, beaten, locked in dungeons all shorts of sh1t that you would'nt believe. They have your ass taking your passport once you go to work there unless you work on american/british insallation. The saudi's especially the royals are probably the most decadent people on the planet today. In dubai they have western whore houses set up with free flowing drugs and the best whores from around the world for saudi royals and businessmen. Meanwhile, in saudi they will chop your head off in the public square, for alcohol possestion hand for stealing. Stoning at the husbands behest. Sick man.

The royal family drinks has sex and does everything they tell their people not to do. Great leadership.

I did a report on women being forced into sex slavery. It is common all over the globe especially in U.S/Israel where they bring the women in and make them have sex to pay their way. In Russia they are kidnapped. In the middle east they are raped. In Asia little girls as young as 7 have sex with U.S businessmen who go there to have their children fantasy come true. The top notch leaders no doubt get the best girls in this business.

I still want to know why the U.S labels the Saudis as friends. When was the last time a stoning or a hand getting chopped off happend? I thought the U.S has been stepping up pressure on them to not do that.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Zebo
I got brats..I might become a muslim LOL. Oh that so bad😛

Hell no it's not ok. I read a book once about saudi arabia life how even the brothers could kill the sister. WTF!! True story, they did when they found out thier friend had raped thier own sister!!

I have three kids myself, single father with his kids living with them, i react strongly against these types of things because i have a teenage daughter.

I want her to have as much fun as she can without having to watch out for wacko lunatics who might think it is wrong.

The book was called "Behind the Vail" totally shocking to western eyes IMHO.

You know that the labor they bring in from philippines and white slavery gets raped, beaten, locked in dungeons all shorts of sh1t that you would'nt believe. They have your ass taking your passport once you go to work there unless you work on american/british insallation. The saudi's especially the royals are probably the most decadent people on the planet today. In dubai they have western whore houses set up with free flowing drugs and the best whores from around the world for saudi royals and businessmen. Meanwhile, in saudi they will chop your head off in the public square, for alcohol possestion hand for stealing. Stoning at the husbands behest. Sick man.

The royal family drinks has sex and does everything they tell their people not to do. Great leadership.

I did a report on women being forced into sex slavery. It is common all over the globe especially in U.S/Israel where they bring the women in and make them have sex to pay their way. In Russia they are kidnapped. In the middle east they are raped. In Asia little girls as young as 7 have sex with U.S businessmen who go there to have their children fantasy come true. The top notch leaders no doubt get the best girls in this business.

I still want to know why the U.S labels the Saudis as friends. When was the last time a stoning or a hand getting chopped off happend? I thought the U.S has been stepping up pressure on them to not do that.


Money and oil, real simple. Saudis make up whatever shortfalls we can't get from Argentina, mexico and other places. We are thier first clients, period and guarnteed to meet any shortfalls. Then you have all the other biz from Building new buildings for them, pharmacuticals, furniture..weapon systems.. whatever Americans and thier contractors are number 1 ...not euorope not china. The royals would be gone tomorrow if they tried to ally themselves with anyone else. Who knows we might even back Osama like before.🙂
 
Aimster

You go around calling girls in mini shorts whores don't you

A very enlightening assumption which bears no relevance to any of my posts. Do you know assumption is the mother of all fvckups?

Nothing wrong with that but you are teaching some messed up extremist version of it that nobody in their right mind will listen to.

A statement without any evidence. Please provide any reference you have to prove the quotes I gave from the Quran and the Hadith are incorrect or false.

No I wasn't making up the fact that the Taliban married off children and kidnapped them. I know plenty of Afghans and it is a widespread FACT. Muslims like you defend all actions of any Muslim even if it is evil because they are MUSLIM.

Are you FROM Afghanistan? I've lived almost two decades amongst Afghans, and they've recounted many such sad tales but only a minority blamed the Taliban. You're speaking for the Afghans as the American government spoke for the Iraqis, about them wanting our forces to liberate them and welcome them with flowers. Wake up and smell reality.

Pakistan does not control 100% of their own land. There are plenty of areas controlled by tribal leaders. Maybe you should do a little digging up before you defend your fellow Muslims without knowing all the facts. Look up the incident when they thought they had the #2 leader of Al Qaeda in Pakistan and they had to work things out with the Tribal leaders there who controlled the majority of the area.

Have you ever been to Pakistan? Your half-arsed assumptions without evidence are only serving to falsify the truth. If you mean that the Pakistani government has a soldier on every inch of Pakistani soil, then you are right about the government not controlling 100% of their land. However, each governmental body has specific jurisdiction, just like the FBI and the CIA, and the so-called tribal leaders had jurisdiction over the area in question.

I'm sorry in Afghanistan electronics were banned. You mean they had T.Vs in Afghanistan? NO I do not think so. I know for a fact if the Taliban found you with a T.V you would be hung. Women were treated better? You don't even know any Afghans and if you do you obviously hang with the ones who support the Taliban. You make me sick with your stupid BS. I have heard many horror stories from fellow Afghans and saw all the happiness they all expressed when the U.S invaded Afghanistan.

I didnt know that electronics was only comprised of television. I used to frequent Port Qasim in Karachi often and saw containers full of electronic goods heading towards Afghanistan. Regardless, if you are implying that telephones were also banned, you're quite a nutcase.

Islamic Law .. like I said people like you ruined the Middle East. I'm glad countries like Turkey and Jordan do not follow this crap. This is 2004 get your head out of your ass. The Quran doesn't say anything about smoking because smoking was not known back then but it is a known fact it is bad so can I smoke?

This has nothing to do with my post. The Quran does not say anything about cocaine either but it refers to substances that intoxicate you as being forbidden, as well as substances which cause diseases. Smoking does that and therefore many religious leaders have made it amply clear that smoking under Islamic law is forbidden.

I'm glad I'm not your son. You wouldn't let me go to a dance in my high school or even look at a movie that shows a women's skin. Hell I would have to give up pepporoni pizza ...

I'm glad you're not my son. The next two sentences shows how well-versed you are in your own religion.

Yes you can call me Muslim, but I'm not to that level where you believe your women should be treated like dirt and you need to tax non Muslims and you need to kill your kid over honor killings which is not even part of the damn Quran.

IF you are a Muslim, I suggest you read the Quran and understand your religion before talking nonsense. I dont believe women should be treated like dirt, and as I stated in the post you quoted, non-Muslims are taxed Jizyah whereas Muslims are taxed Zakat, but I doubt you'd know the concept of either. Your last sentence is pretty stupid. The point in consideration was adultery/fornication, not honor killings.

I suggest you also pick up a comprehension course.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
I got brats..I might become a muslim LOL. Oh that so bad😛

Hell no it's not ok. I read a book once about saudi arabia life how even the brothers could kill the sister. WTF!! True story, they did when they found out thier friend had raped thier own sister!!

Please read the following which I posted earlier:

I also specifically told him that honor killings have nothing to do with Islam. By him, I meant Klixxer.

 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Zebo
I got brats..I might become a muslim LOL. Oh that so bad😛

Hell no it's not ok. I read a book once about saudi arabia life how even the brothers could kill the sister. WTF!! True story, they did when they found out thier friend had raped thier own sister!!

I have three kids myself, single father with his kids living with them, i react strongly against these types of things because i have a teenage daughter.

I want her to have as much fun as she can without having to watch out for wacko lunatics who might think it is wrong.

The book was called "Behind the Vail" totally shocking to western eyes IMHO.

You know that the labor they bring in from philippines and white slavery gets raped, beaten, locked in dungeons all shorts of sh1t that you would'nt believe. They have your ass taking your passport once you go to work there unless you work on american/british insallation. The saudi's especially the royals are probably the most decadent people on the planet today. In dubai they have western whore houses set up with free flowing drugs and the best whores from around the world for saudi royals and businessmen. Meanwhile, in saudi they will chop your head off in the public square, for alcohol possestion hand for stealing. Stoning at the husbands behest. Sick man.

Saudi royals and businessman are not the sole representatives of Islam just as Jenna Jameson is not the representative of Christianity.

Capital punishment is carried out by beheading. You can have a problem with that, just as I have a problem with frying the brains out of someone. Drug traffiking is punishable by death in South East Asian countries. Middle Eastern nations chop off hands. Stoning at the husband's behest is a laughable charge. Please provide some evidence of your ridiculous charges before spewing out crap from your mouth.
 
Sorry to butt in, you are doing an excellent job defending good Muslims. I feel bad that the good suffer for the acts of the bad. Since appearance does not differentiate the god from the bad, the world is swinging toward treating all as bad. A natural offshoot of the useless and bloody efforts of some Mullahs to build personal power through the pain of the common people. In Saigon, high priests would ignite themselves in the streets for what they believed. They were honorable in a way in their belief. I have yet to hear of a Mullah committing suicide for what he believes. He always recruits the young and the stupid. We have bad Americans too that try to build power through the common people. We mostly keep them at bay.
 
Originally posted by: Condor
Sorry to butt in, you are doing an excellent job defending good Muslims. I feel bad that the good suffer for the acts of the bad. Since appearance does not differentiate the god from the bad, the world is swinging toward treating all as bad. A natural offshoot of the useless and bloody efforts of some Mullahs to build personal power through the pain of the common people. In Saigon, high priests would ignite themselves in the streets for what they believed. They were honorable in a way in their belief. I have yet to hear of a Mullah committing suicide for what he believes. He always recruits the young and the stupid. We have bad Americans too that try to build power through the common people. We mostly keep them at bay.

Thank you for your contribution. I do not know who you referred to in your first sentence. Regarding Mullah's committing suicide, I believe ALL religions prohibit suicide. Out of over a billion Muslims, I am sure there must be quite a few of those who act for selfish gain, just as the world has enough of fireband Christians (like Jimmy Swaggart), fireband Hindus (like the RSS and VHP), etc, etc.

However, this thread serves to be useless as people like Klixxer and Aimster completely ignore the contents of my posts which includes references from the religious sources of law, while others continue to indulge in bashing each other's religions.
 
Oh I'm sorry I didn't know we are writing an essay here. Maybe I shouldn't type the way I would talk so I could get an A on my politics forum paper ..

I don't need evidence to show that you are an extremist. You have already shown you are. Am I from Afghanistan? Obviously you know I am not. We do speak the same language and we are neighbors and I do know hundreds of Afghans. I go to their soccer games in Virginia and I go to their concerts. Not one person has said they like the Taliban. I've dated a handful of them and I know plenty of families who have returned to Afghanistan because they finally feel safe to be there now that the Taliban are not in control. Go do a google search for the Afghan Americans who support President Bush when he invaded Afghanistan and you will see a huge majority of them did.

If tribal people control a land and set the rules then they are not part of the government if they do not have anything to do with their laws as far as I am concerned.

You saw electronics being sent to the Taliban and not to the Afghan people. The Taliban did not rule 100% of Afghanistan for your information so who knows what part of Afghanistan the electronics were being sent. Why were you in that area to take witness to these shipments?

No you are right I do not know the context of any tax and I refuse to believe anyone should be taxed anything because of their religion. Does that mean I am not a Muslim? maybe to you it might but you are not God to tell me otherwise. I know you are not a Shia so I am assuming you are a Sunni Muslim.

So if the Quran states that I cannot have anything that will that cause a disease, then it could be said I am not allowed to eat McDonalds for instance because it can be proven that McDonalds can cause heart disease ..Don't even tell me that is different from smoking because it takes a long time for smoking to give you lung cancer just as it will take me a long time to eat McDonalds.

What are your beliefs on women? Do you think women should cover up? I read your other post that you highly defended that they should. Would you marry a female that did not wear a scarf/rosari? What business is it of yours if females should cover or not. You are a man so therefore let the women decide what the hell they want to wear.

If your son cheated on his wife you would kill him. I get your main point. You are going to play God and kill him. You are not a religious man but a hateful man.
 
I don't need evidence to show that you are an extremist. You have already shown you are. Am I from Afghanistan? Obviously you know I am not. We do speak the same language and we are neighbors and I do know hundreds of Afghans. I go to their soccer games in Virginia and I go to their concerts. Not one person has said they like the Taliban. I've dated a handful of them and I know plenty of families who have returned to Afghanistan because they finally feel safe to be there now that the Taliban are not in control. Go do a google search for the Afghan Americans who support President Bush when he invaded Afghanistan and you will see a huge majority of them did.

Your calling me an extremist does not make me one. You have already shown you are quite a non-conformist Muslim

I did not know you were not from Afghanistan and I therefore asked you.

I'm glad you go to Afghan 'soccer games' and 'concerts'. However, I've lived amongst Afghans for almost two decades, since Pakistan is a neighboring country and also provided refuge to millions of Afghans who fled during the Soviet occupation and the subsequent civil war. I believe it would be safe to say I would have better knowledge of Afghan sentiments than you, specially since you are in contact with those Afghans who obviously had better means than common Afghans to take the trip to the United States.

Afghans being safe after the Taliban is gone? HA HA!!! Do you not know about the fortress Mr. Karzai lives in? If the leader of the nation is not safe, you're claiming that the common folk are? Ridiculous.

If tribal people control a land and set the rules then they are not part of the government if they do not have anything to do with their laws as far as I am concerned.

Are you insane? Each state of the American union has its own laws which may or may not conflict with the Federal Laws. Many states still carry Capital Punishment while many do not. Many states are permitting homosexual marriages whereas many are not. Are you implying that the US Government is not in control of 100% of its land? You're funny.

You saw electronics being sent to the Taliban and not to the Afghan people. The Taliban did not rule 100% of Afghanistan for your information so who knows what part of Afghanistan the electronics were being sent. Why were you in that area to take witness to these shipments?

Yes, I am sure you would know who received the electronics. First you claim that communication did not exist because Taliban had banned electronics, and now you claim the Taliban received the electronics. As to your last statement, I went to Port Qasim, which is in Karachi, my home city because my work took me there. Containers had their destination tags on them. I hope you follow. Ask me again if you dont, and I'll try to explain it in even simpler words. Regardless, if you are implying that Telephones were banned in all of Afghanistan, you're quite a nutcase.

No you are right I do not know the context of any tax and I refuse to believe anyone should be taxed anything because of their religion. Does that mean I am not a Muslim? maybe to you it might but you are not God to tell me otherwise. I know you are not a Shia so I am assuming you are a Sunni Muslim

If you do not know of the context, then do not speak about it. You can refuse to believe it but Zakat, a tax on Muslim is one of the five pillars of Islam. IF you are a Muslim, please do go read more about it. It is a fundamental part of Islam. I quote from the Quran:

"True believer are only those...who establish Salat and spend in Our way out of what We have given them." (8:3-4)

"My mercy encompasses all things, but I will specify it for the righteous who give Zakat" (7:156).

There are at least 32 instances in the Quran which mention Zakat that I know of. Please study your own faith before falsifying what I have said.

So if the Quran states that I cannot have anything that will that cause a disease, then it could be said I am not allowed to eat McDonalds for instance because it can be proven that McDonalds can cause heart disease ..Don't even tell me that is different from smoking because it takes a long time for smoking to give you lung cancer just as it will take me a long time to eat McDonalds.

This is a very good example of taking words out of context. Tobacco is an intoxicant as well as a known cause of causing life-threatening diseases. Tobacco companies state that cigarette smoking causes serious ailments and the only way out is to quit. McDonalds food is not an intoxicant, and McDonalds claims that its food should be eaten as part of a healthy diet. Hey, if you lie still all day and not do anything, even that will cause diseases. Grow up buddy.

What are your beliefs on women? Do you think women should cover up? I read your other post that you highly defended that they should. Would you marry a female that did not wear a scarf/rosari? What business is it of yours if females should cover or not. You are a man so therefore let the women decide what the hell they want to wear.

This is another issue completely irrelevant to this thread. God has enjoined both men AND women to cover up. So I think men AND women who profess belief in Islam should follow God's commandments. I dont think my primary reason for choosing a life partner would be a scarf. When you hear me telling you what to wear, then complain. I didnt ask you to wear a burqa, so stop whining like a wee child. What business is it of yours if I tell some woman, ANY woman what to wear? If she complains to you, then open your mouth. Maybe you should ask the above questions to the French government. I dont see you complaining about them, but you're quite vehement in demonizing the Taliban.

If your son cheated on his wife you would kill him. I get your main point. You are going to play God and kill him. You are not a religious man but a hateful man.

I dont know where you are coming from. Let me restate. Adultery/fornication carries the punishment of death/100 whips in Islam. EVEN if my son is found guilty of the crime, I will be carrying out the punishment as prescribed by Islam, NOT playing God. I would expect the same punishment should I be found guilty of the same crime. If you refuse to believe in your own faith, thats not my problem, its yours.
 
Your calling me an extremist does not make me one.

Of course not. Your actions and beliefs make you an extremist. I think most people would say that someone who calls for all non-Muslims to pay a mafia-like tax for their protection to be an extremist.

What would you do if your child doesn't believe in Islam while you do? Would you still require the whipping punishment?
 
I know what Zakart is. You need to give 2.5% of your wealth to the poor. Whatever meaning you have of it is your extremist version that your Mosque has obviously brainwashed you with. I suggest you go to a new Mosque.

Obviously Afghanistan is not safe, but it sure as hell is a lot better than when the Taliban were in power. I am not going to sit here and debate why I think the Taliban were bad. We all know why they were bad and you are supporting them which shows just how extreme you are. If the Taliban were not extremist then please define a Muslim extremist for me.

I never claimed anything of the Taliban as I was not part of them. You suggested you SAW electronics going to Afghanistan and since they were banned I am assuming that the only people who would receive them would be the Taliban. Ok so they had telephones, but they didn't have T.Vs/Pictures (they were banned!)/Radios and I highly doubt that the country was full of telephones that people could use freely. You are trying to prove me wrong by saying that they had electronics because of telephones???

sorry to mess up your belief system but the Quran does not say women need to cover up. It says women should dress "Modestly". You can take that word for whatever way you see fit and obviously you feel a woman should cover from head to toe except her face. I wouldn't be suprised if you believed in the burqa. What did the French do? They banned the scarf from the public school system. They banned all religious symbols not just Muslims. If one doesn't like the laws of their land then they need to move out or put up with it. The French obviously have hate and the world knows this and there is nothing that can be done. I don't believe in the scarf as I think it is degrading women but I don't look down on women who wear it. What the French did is not close to what the Taliban have done and I cannot even believe you are comparing the two.

Im sorry like I have said the Quran does not tell anyone to punish their child with death. Who the hell fills your head with this garbage. You really need to go to a new mosque or go ask someone to translate the Quran for you because you either are doing it on your own or your mosque is filled with a bunch of people that need to be sent back to their countries.
 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Your calling me an extremist does not make me one.

Of course not. Your actions and beliefs make you an extremist. I think most people would say that someone who calls for all non-Muslims to pay a mafia-like tax for their protection to be an extremist.

What would you do if your child doesn't believe in Islam while you do? Would you still require the whipping punishment?

I corrected my statement about the non-Muslim tax ages ago. If your record is stuck, I suggest you get enrolled in an institution for the mentally impaired.

Speaking in Islamic law terms, I do not know the answer to your question. I'll worry about it if it comes to that.
 
I know what Zakart is. You need to give 2.5% of your wealth to the poor. Whatever meaning you have of it is your extremist version that your Mosque has obviously brainwashed you with. I suggest you go to a new Mosque.

Here's your initial statement:

No you are right I do not know the context of any tax and I refuse to believe anyone should be taxed anything because of their religion

So which is true? Do you believe a person pays tax because of their religion or not?

Obviously Afghanistan is not safe, but it sure as hell is a lot better than when the Taliban were in power. I am not going to sit here and debate why I think the Taliban were bad. We all know why they were bad and you are supporting them which shows just how extreme you are. If the Taliban were not extremist then please define a Muslim extremist for me.

Since you've never been to Afghanistan and your 'friends' have mostly been well off Afghans, you have no idea what you're talking about. You've been referring to me as a product of brainwashing from mosques. On the contrary, you're a product of brainwashing from American media. So are you also one of those 50% plus Americans who still believe Iraq had/has WMD? 🙂

I never claimed anything of the Taliban as I was not part of them. You suggested you SAW electronics going to Afghanistan and since they were banned I am assuming that the only people who would receive them would be the Taliban. Ok so they had telephones, but they didn't have T.Vs/Pictures (they were banned!)/Radios and I highly doubt that the country was full of telephones that people could use freely. You are trying to prove me wrong by saying that they had electronics because of telephones???

I didnt suggest anything, I saw electronic equipments being shipped to Afghanistan. Lets start from the beginning. I had stated that communication was limited to the rural areas because of lack of infrastructure, while you claimed that the lack of communication existed because of ban on electronics. I explained to you that electronics were not banned but this did not mean that the country had cellular phones or land line phones available throughout its territory. Therefore, means of communication was not available in abundance and many people carried out punishments without guidance from the Taliban leadership.

Since now you agree with me about the communication part, I hope we can put this to rest.

sorry to mess up your belief system but the Quran does not say women need to cover up. It says women should dress "Modestly". You can take that word for whatever way you see fit and obviously you feel a woman should cover from head to toe except her face. I wouldn't be suprised if you believed in the burqa. What did the French do? They banned the scarf from the public school system. They banned all religious symbols not just Muslims. If one doesn't like the laws of their land then they need to move out or put up with it. The French obviously have hate and the world knows this and there is nothing that can be done. I don't believe in the scarf as I think it is degrading women but I don't look down on women who wear it. What the French did is not close to what the Taliban have done and I cannot even believe you are comparing the two.

Im sorry that again you show a limited knowledge of Islam. There is specific mention in the Quran asking the believing women to 'cover' themselves up and gaurd their modesty so that they may be regarded as such (meaning believing women) and be not molested. The same goes for men, i.e the code of dressing. I am also sure you have no knowledge of Satr. I am also sure you do not know that Sunnah is also part of Islamic law and that also says plenty about the dress code of Muslims.

The French did exactly what the Taliban did. I have no problems with what the French government did. The French government wanted to maintain its secularity just like the Taliban wanted to maintain an Islamic environment. I can say the same thing you did, and say the people who did not like the Taliban rule can leave Afghanistan. I believe you are one of those French-hating Americans who eats Freedom fries and Freedom toasts :roll: Its not the French who have hate, its you. Who cares whether you believe in the scarf or not. You're not supposed to wear it. The Prophets (SA) wives and daughter wore it. Are you saying they were wrong and you are right?

Im sorry like I have said the Quran does not tell anyone to punish their child with death. Who the hell fills your head with this garbage. You really need to go to a new mosque or go ask someone to translate the Quran for you because you either are doing it on your own or your mosque is filled with a bunch of people that need to be sent back to their countries.

Are you stupid? Please take a comprehension class. This is what I have said and read carefully this time:

Adultery/fornication carries the punishment of death/100 whips in Islam. EVEN if my son is found guilty of the crime, I will be carrying out the punishment as prescribed by Islam, NOT playing God. I would expect the same punishment should I be found guilty of the same crime. If you refuse to believe in your own faith, thats not my problem, its yours.
 
Like I said extremist I am not here to write an essay for you. If you want me to take my time and write in complete sentences then too bad. This is what you're getting like it or not. Don't worry about my education as I am far more educated than you. You can get an education as you wish in this country, but I doubt it will serve you any good once you get deported back to your country.

I have no problem with Muslims giving money to the poor as part of their religion. This is not a LAW, but something one should do. I was referring to your statements about giving money to the non-Muslims to protect them (laugh). You're an idiot and have no idea what the hell you are talking about. You try to prove your case by saying what you believe. You cannot back up anything with facts.

American media brainwashing .lol.wow

The Taliban thing is put to rest. There was no electronics allowed. End of it.

I don't care what you have said. You can say anything you want. As far as i'm concerned if you see your sister in law without a scarf you will go and cry for life.

I'm done with this. You either want attention or you come from some messed up family. You do not know how to function normally outside your box. You will stand out because you have isolated yourself from society your entire life with this crap thinking of yours. Your kind simply do not belong in the United States. When I say your kind I don't mean your people. I mean the crazy ideas you have are not fit to live in the greatest country in the world. You need to pack up and go to Saudi Arabia where you can kill your son with nobody arresting you. I really hope they deport you back to your country wherever that is and you and your wife can live a happy life ... well if you want to call it that, life.

You are not Muslim. You share the same belief system the terrorist believe in. Good Luck with your crazy fanatical thinking of life. This might be the land of the free but you take your freedom for granted. Open this crazy mouth of yours and you will find your life a living hell here.
 
I got PM's from several muslims when i started this thread, all of them, ALL of them mentioned you as an extremist and not really part of the muslim faith Sultan.

So either you are fvcked in the head or you are just a madman willing to kill children.
 
Originally posted by: Klixxer
I got PM's from several muslims when i started this thread, all of them, ALL of them mentioned you as an extremist and not really part of the muslim faith Sultan.

So either you are fvcked in the head or you are just a madman willing to kill children.

blah blah blah old man 🙂
 
Like I said extremist I am not here to write an essay for you. If you want me to take my time and write in complete sentences then too bad. This is what you're getting like it or not. Don't worry about my education as I am far more educated than you. You can get an education as you wish in this country, but I doubt it will serve you any good once you get deported back to your country.

ha ha. Nothing above proves incorrect anything I said.

I have no problem with Muslims giving money to the poor as part of their religion. This is not a LAW, but something one should do. I was referring to your statements about giving money to the non-Muslims to protect them (laugh). You're an idiot and have no idea what the hell you are talking about. You try to prove your case by saying what you believe. You cannot back up anything with facts.

Another example of how poorly versed you are in your religion. Zakat IS the law. And Muslims give the money as part of their faith. Giving money to the poor is called Sadqah, but I'm sure you dont know about that either.

I quoted from the Quran. If you believe in Islam, I'm sure you can find that to be the most indisputable fact of all :roll:

American media brainwashing .lol.wow

yup, the same media who was running around claiming Iraq's WMD.

The Taliban thing is put to rest. There was no electronics allowed. End of it.

Idiot.

I don't care what you have said. You can say anything you want. As far as i'm concerned if you see your sister in law without a scarf you will go and cry for life.

lol. Another sign of exasperation.

I'm done with this. You either want attention or you come from some messed up family. You do not know how to function normally outside your box. You will stand out because you have isolated yourself from society your entire life with this crap thinking of yours. Your kind simply do not belong in the United States. When I say your kind I don't mean your people. I mean the crazy ideas you have are not fit to live in the greatest country in the world. You need to pack up and go to Saudi Arabia where you can kill your son with nobody arresting you. I really hope they deport you back to your country wherever that is and you and your wife can live a happy life ... well if you want to call it that, life.

haha. ok 😀

You are not Muslim. You share the same belief system the terrorist believe in. Good Luck with your crazy fanatical thinking of life. This might be the land of the free but you take your freedom for granted. Open this crazy mouth of yours and you will find your life a living hell here.

okaaaaaay 😛
 
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Originally posted by: Condor
Sorry to butt in, you are doing an excellent job defending good Muslims. I feel bad that the good suffer for the acts of the bad. Since appearance does not differentiate the god from the bad, the world is swinging toward treating all as bad. A natural offshoot of the useless and bloody efforts of some Mullahs to build personal power through the pain of the common people. In Saigon, high priests would ignite themselves in the streets for what they believed. They were honorable in a way in their belief. I have yet to hear of a Mullah committing suicide for what he believes. He always recruits the young and the stupid. We have bad Americans too that try to build power through the common people. We mostly keep them at bay.
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Thank you for your contribution. I do not know who you referred to in your first sentence. Regarding Mullah's committing suicide, I believe ALL religions prohibit suicide. Out of over a billion Muslims, I am sure there must be quite a few of those who act for selfish gain, just as the world has enough of fireband Christians (like Jimmy Swaggart), fireband Hindus (like the RSS and VHP), etc, etc.

However, this thread serves to be useless as people like Klixxer and Aimster completely ignore the contents of my posts which includes references from the religious sources of law, while others continue to indulge in bashing each other's religions.

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I thought my reference to good muslims made it clear that it was a response to Aimster. I think Aimster was the non-lunatic poster at any rate. Anyone who even implies that Afganistan was in any way other than a lunatic clouster has to be flying more than one flag. Didn't you see the videos taken by the woman during the Taliban days? Lunatic murderers deserving no sympathy and certainly no cnadidates for anything other than the fires of Hell if that exists. Wearing scarves and hiking their skirts as the run toward the killing stadium with lunatic fervor.
 
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Originally posted by: Condor
Sorry to butt in, you are doing an excellent job defending good Muslims. I feel bad that the good suffer for the acts of the bad. Since appearance does not differentiate the god from the bad, the world is swinging toward treating all as bad. A natural offshoot of the useless and bloody efforts of some Mullahs to build personal power through the pain of the common people. In Saigon, high priests would ignite themselves in the streets for what they believed. They were honorable in a way in their belief. I have yet to hear of a Mullah committing suicide for what he believes. He always recruits the young and the stupid. We have bad Americans too that try to build power through the common people. We mostly keep them at bay.
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Thank you for your contribution. I do not know who you referred to in your first sentence. Regarding Mullah's committing suicide, I believe ALL religions prohibit suicide. Out of over a billion Muslims, I am sure there must be quite a few of those who act for selfish gain, just as the world has enough of fireband Christians (like Jimmy Swaggart), fireband Hindus (like the RSS and VHP), etc, etc.

However, this thread serves to be useless as people like Klixxer and Aimster completely ignore the contents of my posts which includes references from the religious sources of law, while others continue to indulge in bashing each other's religions.

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I thought my reference to good muslims made it clear that it was a response to Aimster. I think Aimster was the non-lunatic poster at any rate. Anyone who even implies that Afganistan was in any way other than a lunatic clouster has to be flying more than one flag. Didn't you see the videos taken by the woman during the Taliban days? Lunatic murderers deserving no sympathy and certainly no cnadidates for anything other than the fires of Hell if that exists. Wearing scarves and hiking their skirts as the run toward the killing stadium with lunatic fervor.

Let me get this Taliban issue clear for all who are oblivious to it. The Taliban, initially a student movement was/is a political party, like the Democrat and the Republican party. You did not have a member of Taliban on every single square inch of Afghan land. Many Afghans believed in the Taliban, many did not, just as many believe in the Democratic party and many believe in the Republican party.

Now if you would like to blame EVERY single wrong committed in Afghanistan on the Taliban, you're loose in your noggin. Was the Democratic or the Republican party and all those who adhered to it blamed for the Rodney King incident? Are they blamed for whats happening at Guantanamo? Are they blamed for what the our soldiers did at Abu Gharib?

I hope your answer is a no.

The Taliban were in power in Afghanistan for just around a decade. You cannot solve all the problems of a nation in 10 years and even those 10 years were not of peace. Hey, this country practiced slavery for ages, before it took a civil war to rid of this evil.
 
It used to be the law of the land aka "stubborn child laws". That was the first time that kids were recognized as having some value. Prior to that, kids and wives had no legal status and served at the pleasure of the husband/father.
 
Originally posted by: Klixxer
I got PM's from several muslims when i started this thread, all of them, ALL of them mentioned you as an extremist and not really part of the muslim faith Sultan.

So either you are fvcked in the head or you are just a madman willing to kill children.

Why can't he be both?

He is a Muslim extremist bigot that is fvcked in the head and is a madman willing to kill children.

At least I got a new sig out of Sultan's latest hate speech.
 
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