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Muslim attacks Athiest dressed as Mohammad, Pennsyl. Muslim Judge Sides w/ Attacker

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http://jonathanturley.org/2012/02/2...ng-atheist-while-calling-the-victim-a-doofus/

http://news.yahoo.com/penn-judge-mu...BzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3

Ernie Perce, an atheist who marched as a zombie Mohammad in the Mechanicsburg Halloween parade. Then you add Talaag Elbayomy, a Muslim who stepped off a curb and reportedly attacked Perce for insulting the Prophet. Then you have a judge (Judge Mark Martin) who threw out the criminal charges against Elbayomy and ridiculed the victim, Perce. The Judge identifies himself as a Muslim and says that Perce conduct is not what the First Amendment is supposed to protect.
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Judge Mark Martin, an Iraq war veteran and a convert to Islam
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....ridiculed Perce as a “doofus.”....suggests that Elbayomy was just protecting his “culture.” The judge not only points to his own Koran but his time in Muslim countries as relevant to his deliberations.
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Notably, reports indicate that Elbayomy called police because he thought it was a crime to be disrespectful to Muhammed. The judge appears to reference this by noting that in some countries you can be put to death for such an offense.
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Related: "Sharia law ban: Is Oklahoma’s proposal discriminatory or needed?"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ory-or-useful/2012/01/11/gIQAGFP1qP_blog.html

In these times when some people talk about how America should have more religious influence in government, I believe this case is an example which shows the dangers when misguided individuals feel that certain constitutional protections are bendable to their personal beliefs. How would people feel if it was a Christian attacker and judge calling the atheist activist a "doofus." It should be noted that another atheist activist dressed as a "Zombie Pope" was walking in the Halloween parade alongside the "Zombie Mohammad" and was not attacked.
 
Bad as this case is, I don't see it as a significant threat to the USA. I'm sure the victim will sue and the judge will lose his seat as a result.
 
The atheist probably is a doofus, but the judge is wrong about the main point of law - the 1st Amendment does protect people's rights to say things that may be offensive, insulting, or sacriligeous to other cultures. Elbayomy should have gotten a proper trial for assault/battery or other appropriate charges, and the judge ought to be reprimanded for his decision and conduct in the courtroom. I don't give a damn if someone takes a shit on a Koran in Times Square, if you're a Muslim and you attack the person doing it then you deserve to go to jail if found guilty.
 
HamburgerBoy said:
Bad as this case is, I don't see it as a significant threat to the USA. I'm sure the victim will sue and the judge will lose his seat as a result.
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It's not a significant threat but if it's true this guy needs to go. Don't bet that suing will remove a judge. It won't because he's immune to the consequences of his actions at least by the public.

I believe this is accurate.

•The judicial conduct board investigates complaints regarding judicial conduct filed by individuals or initiated by the board. The board determines whether probable cause exists to file formal charges, and presents its case to the court of judicial discipline. The court has the authority to impose sanctions, ranging from a reprimand to removal from office, if the formal charges are sustained.
•Judges may be impeached by the house of representatives and convicted by two thirds of the senate.
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If a judge needs to cite laws or ramifications in another country that the defendant did is on trial for here, then maybe he should think twice.
 
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the judge needs to be disbarred. he has lost grasp on what the 1st amendment is. He is letting his religion interfere with his duty. It it time for him to step down.
 
waggy said:
the judge needs to be disbarred. he has lost grasp on what the 1st amendment is. He is letting his religion interfere with his duty. It it time for him to step down.
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I actually thought this might be a joke because it sounded so far fetched. in the article, it also stated that someone walking very close to him was dressed as the pope. No news on weather any catholics assulted that guy or not. 😱
 
Karl Agathon said:
I actually thought this might be a joke because it sounded so far fetched. in the article, it also stated that someone walking very close to him was dressed as the pope. No news on weather any catholics assulted that guy or not. 😱
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i have to admit i thought it was a joke too. what's worse is the judge is thinking of arresting the guy for releasing the tape


only good thing is it seems to be getting news coverage.
 
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1st Amendment definitely protects the victim. The Judge needs to go, his personal beliefs are clouding his judgement.

edit: I really can't believe this. You can't defend one culture and not another and expect to be seen as impartial.
 
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Judge should be disbarred for putting Islam ahead of the Constitution. And he should be deported to the Middle East, for being a fucking idiot.
 
waggy said:
1st article has it "To make matters worse, the judge is reportedly threatening Perce with contempt for posting the audio of the hearing."
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That's a he said she said thing. Perce says he was given permission and AFAIK he doesn't have anyone who can back him up. Between a commoner and a judge the latter always wins.
 
Kadarin said:
Judge should be disbarred for putting Islam ahead of the Constitution. And he should be deported to the Middle East, for being a fucking idiot.
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Deport that Muslim attacker too, and any Muslim who thinks merely offending their religion can justify any crime. And all Muslim immigrants should be banned unless they pass the most stringent of security and psychological checks.

Live like idiots, get treated like one. It's only fair. It's being far too long they have been thriving under the guise of political correctness.
 
StrangerGuy said:
Deport that Muslim attacker too, and any Muslim who thinks merely offending their religion can justify any crime. And all Muslim immigrants should be banned unless they pass the most stringent of security and psychological checks.

Live like idiots, get treated like one. It's only fair. It's being far too long they have been thriving under the guise of political correctness.
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Your version of America is a real shitty one.
 
I felt a disturbance in the forums. As if a thousand conservative posters heads exploded when they realized if they took a position on this thread they would be supporting an Atheist or Muslim.
 
Other articles state that the judge threw the case out because of a lack of evidence. The video was grainy and not clear on what happened. The Yahoo article states that he threw it out because the Muslim defendant had some sort of obligation.

Also, other articles are stating that the judge is not a Muslim.
 
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