i know you said no rap and you cant stand it... but that really limits a few peoples responses, including myself... but if you can ever look beyond that... i suggest: the roots - seed 2.0. and they are not your traditonal rap... they play all their own instruments (guitars, bass, keyboards) and they dont talk about ridiculous crap in their songs (ie: ice, ho's, spinnin' 24s, err force ones). so, if you ever open up your mind to the genre, this would be a good place to start. just thought id throw that out there.