Multiple attacks in Paris

[edro]

Why?
What have these attackers endured that made them want to do this?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Kinda hard to befriend people that wants to kill you because you don't believe the same thing they do. It's in the very text book that they so believe in.

So, either you think they don't believe their text book, if you think they're your friend, or you're an idiot for thinking that they won't want to kill you.

:biggrin:

And there are many people you don't realize are Muslim - http://www.businessinsider.com/these-9-famous-americans-are-all-muslim-2014-10

 

[iamwiz82]

Kinda hard to befriend people that wants to kill you because you don't believe the same thing they do. It's in the very text book that they so believe in.

So, either you think they don't believe their text book, if you think they're your friend, or you're an idiot for thinking that they won't want to kill you.

It's too bad the Native Americans didn't feel the same about Christians, eh?

You are a crass and stupid individual and it TERRIFIES me that you may have the ability to the vote in the US, speaking as a Caucasian person raised as a catholic.

You are a shining example to support the case for sterilizing adults.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

The problem is you only need a few people who agree with ISIS. They could be living in France, Germany, USA, etc... How would you fight that when they aren't even on the battlefield? So, even if you defeat ISIS the bigger issue might be at home where many people are living a regular life.

You take away the money and you take away the training and you take away the coordination and you have a few widely scattered nutjobs, not an organized, effective terrorist cell capable of projecting attacks long range. 9/11, and this, were carried out by well-funded groups working towards a big picture. If you wipe out the heart of ISIS the remaining people are only capable of small strikes against easy targets. Big difference. You can't end terrorism entirely, but you can most definitely end the largest, most aggressive terror organization.

 

[SSSnail]

It's too bad the Native Americans didn't feel the same about Christians, eh?

You are a crass and stupid individual and it TERRIFIES me that you may have the ability to the vote in the US, speaking as a Caucasian person raised as a catholic.

You are a shining example to support the case for sterilizing adults.

Racist!

LOL, you know what's stupid? Yeah, and look at what happened to the Native Americans? I guess it's good to be white, huh?

You are a shinny example of polished turd.

 

[UNCjigga]

Yes, and with the wonderful European economy right now, what do you think is going to happen when hundreds of thousands of military age males can't find meaningful employment? Much less assimilate into their host countries?

Long term, it will get worse. Much worse.

They are refugees, not immigrants. Nobody wants to give them permanent status, and most of them want to go back home once ISIS/Assad are gone.

 

[SketchMaster]

Kinda hard to befriend people that wants to kill you because you don't believe the same thing they do. It's in the very text book that they so believe in.

So, either you think they don't believe their text book, if you think they're your friend, or you're an idiot for thinking that they won't want to kill you.

I'm curious, has a Muslim ever directly offended/assaulted you?

Genuinely asking.

 

[brianmanahan]

i'm afraid this is going to keep happening until stuff stops being so bad in those muslim countries that they have nothing to live for.

then again, they were living in paris, and it still happened.

sooooo yeah i guess i'm just staying in the midwest US forever.

 

[CPA]

Why?
What have these attackers endured that made them want to do this?

It has nothing to do with enduring. It has nothing to do with opportunity or education or cooperation, like so many like to think. It's in their belief system, it's what they believe they are destined to do.

 

[SSSnail]

I'm curious, has a Muslim ever directly offended/assaulted you?

Genuinely asking.

Better question is - will they?

Here, read this http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm. Then ask yourself - what do you call a Muslim that doesn't believe in their holy book, the Qur'an?

And, if they are devout Muslims, then, the text of their sacred book must be followed, correct?

So, you see, there's a conflict. And there's only one answer for it.

The end game is assimilate, or die once there's enough of them. It's happened throughout history, and it's bound to happen again if you let it.

Call me names, call me stupid, call me whatever you want. I just don't ever want to see the day where you'd mutter "Damn, that Sssnail guy was right".

 

[UNCjigga]

So you're calling people ignorant for jumping to conclusion that they are refugees (which I can't see anyone actually say that), yet you then jump to the conclusion that they are French citizens.

I didn't conclude they were French citizens, I said it's "more likely" that they are. That's because France has hundreds of homegrown radical Islamists, many of whom traveled to Iraq/Syria to train with ISIS and then came back to France!

Also, forgive me if I'm mistaken but I've seen plenty of anti-refugee sentiment in this thread.

 

[Nebor]

Better question is - will they?

Here, read this http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm. Then ask yourself - what do you call a Muslim that doesn't believe in their holy book, the Qur'an?

And, if they are devout Muslims, then, the text of their sacred book must be followed, correct?

So, you see, there's a conflict. And there's only one answer for it.

The end game is assimilate, or die once there's enough of them. It's happened throughout history, and it's bound to happen again if you let it.

Call me names, call me stupid, call me whatever you want. I just don't ever want to see the day where you'd mutter "Damn, that Sssnail guy was right".

This. It's in the Koran. Mohammed himself made peace treaties when his armies were weak, then broke them once he had the upper hand.

You either believe that Islam will dominate the world via the sword, or you're not a very good Muslim.

 

[Capt Caveman]

This. It's in the Koran. Mohammed himself made peace treaties when his armies were weak, then broke them once he had the upper hand.

You either believe that Islam will dominate the world via the sword, or you're not a very good Muslim.

So, should we take out Dr. Oz and Shaq before they take us out?

 

[Imp]

So, should we take out Dr. Oz and Shaq before they take us out?

I thought Dr. Oz was white or Jewish... If I was fooled, how will we know who is and isn't Muslim?

 

[SketchMaster]

Better question is - will they?

Here, read this http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm. Then ask yourself - what do you call a Muslim that doesn't believe in their holy book, the Qur'an?

And, if they are devout Muslims, then, the text of their sacred book must be followed, correct?

So, you see, there's a conflict. And there's only one answer for it.

The end game is assimilate, or die once there's enough of them. It's happened throughout history, and it's bound to happen again if you let it.

Call me names, call me stupid, call me whatever you want. I just don't ever want to see the day where you'd mutter "Damn, that Sssnail guy was right".

No need to call names, and I don't think you're stupid; this is the opinion you're entitled to. Can as ask if you are religious yourself?

 

[desura]

This. It's in the Koran. Mohammed himself made peace treaties when his armies were weak, then broke them once he had the upper hand.

You either believe that Islam will dominate the world via the sword, or you're not a very good Muslim.

Well, yeah, Islam fundamentally is worse than any other religion.

But we still have to live with 2 billion Muslims or whatever.

 

[desura]

Islam isn't really a religion of peace anyways. The cause and effect of it goes something like this. Once you submit to Allah, you will have peace. Islam really is the religion of submission.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I thought Dr. Oz was white or Jewish... If I was fooled, how will we know who is and isn't Muslim?

Janet Jackson and Snoop Dogg are Muslim too. I think someone here should take them out before they take us out.

 

[DougK62]

You can't possibly think that since it's in the Koran every Muslim must follow it, right? Have you read the Bible? It has some terrible stuff in it. I know a lot of Christians, and exactly zero of them follow everything in the Bible. They keep the nice parts and disregard the obviously crazy parts.

This. It's in the Koran. Mohammed himself made peace treaties when his armies were weak, then broke them once he had the upper hand.

You either believe that Islam will dominate the world via the sword, or you're not a very good Muslim.

 

[Ruptga]

This. It's in the Koran. Mohammed himself made peace treaties when his armies were weak, then broke them once he had the upper hand.

You either believe that Islam will dominate the world via the sword, or you're not a very good Muslim.

Which is totally not the same thing that Moses and friends did when they took what would be Israel. It's definitely nothing that a European Christian and founder of modern political science would ever have anything to do with. Nor would God's favorite country ever pull that sort of thing as a cold matter of foreign policy, either. Lucky you that your high horse is so secure.

You can't possibly think that since it's in the Koran every Muslim must follow it, right? Have you read the Bible? It has some terrible stuff in it. I know a lot of Christians, and exactly zero of them follow everything in the Bible. They keep the nice parts and disregard the obviously crazy parts.

Guess I could have just quoted that, if I'd refreshed before posting. He's exactly right though.

 

[madoka]

Tomorrow's front page:

 

[SSSnail]

You can't possibly think that since it's in the Koran every Muslim must follow it, right? Have you read the Bible? It has some terrible stuff in it. I know a lot of Christians, and exactly zero of them follow everything in the Bible. They keep the nice parts and disregard the obviously crazy parts.

Then they're not very good Muslims, or Christians, because they don't believe in the words of their god. Or, it could be the whole religion thing is a sham, but people will always need to believe in something. And, as long as there are those differences in opinions or beliefs, blood will shed.

I'm just going to say this again, and hope that the clueless, shallow libruls in this thread will see that there's only one way this will end.

Let me ask you a question, and if you can answer this, then you'll know exactly what will happen. What do you think the people in the Middle East have been fighting over since the dawn of time? Whole villages massacred. Countries wiped out. All for what? Because their football team lost that week?

No, it's because they believe in different gods. You're so naive, and I would say "stupid, crass, and I'm horrified that you can vote" blah blah...

But, as stupid as I think some of you are, I still don't want to kill you, or "sterilize" as some dumb fuck put it.

 

[madoka]

Why?
What have these attackers endured that made them want to do this?

72 virgins and an eternal boner.

In Islam, the concept of 72 virgins (houri) refers to an aspect of Jannah (Paradise). This concept is grounded in Qur'anic text which describe a sensual Paradise where believing men are rewarded by being wed to virgins with "full grown", "swelling" or "pears-shaped" breasts.

. . . they are graphically described by Qur'anic commentator and polymath, al-Suyuti (died 1505), who, echoing a hasan hadith from Ibn Majah, wrote that the perpetual virgins will all "have appetizing vaginas", and that the "penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal".

However, women only get one man and it's unclear if he has the eternal boner.

Conversly, women will be provided with only one man, and they "will be satisfied with him".

 

[Nebor]

You can't possibly think that since it's in the Koran every Muslim must follow it, right? Have you read the Bible? It has some terrible stuff in it. I know a lot of Christians, and exactly zero of them follow everything in the Bible. They keep the nice parts and disregard the obviously crazy parts.

You seem to have a fundamental lack of understanding of Islam. The Koran wasn't written by men like the bible. The Koran is the actual, literal word of god. You cannot ignore parts of it and consider yourself a good muslim, nor is there much room for interpretation.

 

[desura]

The Jews, who spawned both Christianity and Islam, basically viewed it like this:

Christianity didn't really make any sense, but that was part of its appeal and Christianity generally inspired people to be better. Islam was in a sense a perfection of Judaism which meant that its adherents were generally more fanatical and irritating to be around, even if logically it was purer or made more sense or whatever.